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Joe Bruno
01-01-2016, 02:20 PM
Subject: Did Israel Evict the Palestinians?



Here are some quotes from Arab sources on the issue:


Re: More trollery from RLA
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Are the Arabs afforded the same kind of accomodation ie housing,
jobs,
education etc, as those who are Israeli nationals in Israel?
If they can afford it.
Did the allied forces, forcably turf the Arab families out of their
homes when land was err... "divided" in readiness for the formation
of
Israel?
The land was "err... divided" per UNR 181 for the formation of a
Jewish

state AND an Arab state. The Arab state was not formed for the
reasons
that: 1) No Arab political body could be found to proclaim an Arab
state, other than the pro-Nazi Arab Higher Committee headed by the
Nazi


war criminal Amin al-Husseini; and Britain's ally, Jordan, according
to


King Abdullah, believed that: 2) "Were an Arab state to be created in
Palestine, we would find ourselves surrounded by enemies." Some
comments from Arabs on the so-called "forcible turfing" of Arabs from
their homes:


"The refugees were confident that their absence would not last long,
and that they would return within a week or two. Their leaders had
promised them that the Arab armies would crash the 'Zionist gangs'
very


quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long
exile."
George Hakim, bishop of the Galilee, Sada al Janub (Beirut) 16 Aug
48.


"The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of
the action of the Arab states in opposing the Jewish entity. The Arab
states agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the
solution of the problem they created." Emil Ghouri, Secretary of the
Arab Higher Committee, Daily Telegraph 6 Sept 48.


"Various factors influenced [the Arabs'] decision to seek flight.
There


is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the
announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging
the Arabs to quit." London Economist 2 Oct 48.


"This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs,
encouraged by the boasting of an un-realistic Arab press and the
irresponsible utterances of some arab leaders that it could only be a
matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the
Arab


states and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake
possession of their country." Edward Atiyah, secretary of the Arab
League (London), The Arabs p 183.


"The Arab states encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes
temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion
armies."


Falastin (Jordan), editorial 19 Feb 49.
"[Arab League Secretary General Azzam Pasha] pointed out that they
were


already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent
on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be
a


simple matter to throw the Jews into the Mediterranean. Brotherly
advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes
and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states,
lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down." Habib Issa,
Al-Hada (New York) 8 Jun 51.


"Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to
their
homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave.
Only


a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to
the
United Nations to resolve on their return." Khalid al-Azzam, Syrian
prime minister 1948-9, Memoirs, pp 386-87.


"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians, but
instead they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and leave their
homeland." Abu Mazen, PLO Executive Committee, Falastin al-Thawra,
Mar
76.
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keiv
01-01-2016, 02:52 PM
Speaking of "trollery":

"Dr. Hoettl Speaks About Six Million Jews Exterminated"
"Did Israel Evict The Palestinians?"
"Professional Historians Denounce Holocaust Denial"

You're off to a great start. I was going to contribute my thoughts on the subject until I noticed the trend you got going on.
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Search
01-01-2016, 03:32 PM
:bism:

Hmm, I don't want to say too much on the subject except to say that a sincere person has to delve into the entire history of the creation of Israel and Israeli actions to understand the present-day Israeli-Palestinian conflict holistically in its true and correct historical context.

Also, there are many unbiased Western sources that have written entire books and much academic scholarship is available on the subject matter of Palestine. Martin Luther King, Jr., one of the leaders of the civil rights movement in America, had said, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice anywhere."

As you know, in your other thread, I told you that I do not deny Holocaust. And I don't. Holocaust was a terrible tragedy perpetrated in an evil way and is in no way justifiable. Period. Full Stop. Dot.

That is because as people of God because we have to always strive be fair and just in our opinions and manners and dealings with everything. Therefore, you should not be surprised that I also feel that there should be no denial within any unbiased persons to the innumerable mini-Holocausts that have been perpetrated on the Palestinian people for a long, long time.

Also, please remember just because we may perceive certain people to be on "our" side versus "their" side is no excuse to justify the unjustifiable. We must always stand for what is right and just and true, no matter what side. That's all I have to say. Thanks.

Peace.
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M.I.A.
01-01-2016, 03:45 PM
They left yesterday, but you still have to evict them to make settlements today?

...to be fair, if you ever look through my posts I also would have advised the Palestinians left and took refuge somewhere else.

Although purely for humanitarian reasons.

Maybe the Palestinian voice is an isrealy one and the isrealy voice is an Arab one?

Strange days.

To be fair its probably a struggle to share anyway, Allah swt raises and lowers as he wills.

...for a time.

As per "the exile"
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Futuwwa
01-01-2016, 06:59 PM
If you want Muslims to stop engaging in Holocaust denial, engaging in Nakba denial yourself is about the most counterproductive thing you could do. Because Jewish Nakba denial, along with politicization of the Holocaust, are pretty much the root causes of Muslim Holocaust denial.
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