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anonymous
03-02-2016, 12:21 AM
people say it's extravagant and money can go for charity instead. what's islamic point of view? and is it showing off?

share your thoughts thanks.
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Maryam Gold
03-02-2016, 02:00 AM
yes sure you can, but only for me! :-)
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azc
03-02-2016, 04:03 AM
What they say is true.
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Saleem Khan
03-02-2016, 04:53 PM
Are you asking whats best or are you asking if it's permissible?

Answer of both of these depends on your intention.

Therefore what is your intention?
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ardianto
03-02-2016, 05:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
people say it's extravagant and money can go for charity instead. what's islamic point of view? and is it showing off?

share your thoughts thanks.
The only reason for people to buy super car then drive it on road and street is for showing off. Different than if they buy for race purpose.

By the way, do you really have money and intend to buy super car, or you just dream to buy super car?
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Scimitar
03-02-2016, 05:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
people say it's extravagant and money can go for charity instead. what's islamic point of view? and is it showing off?

share your thoughts thanks.
Absolutely extravagant. Not to mention the drain on our earthly resources just to satisfy ones ego.

Haraaam. I say.

Scimi
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M.I.A.
03-02-2016, 05:28 PM
Archery and horse riding..

Buy a lambo and you won't have to hit the broad side of a barn..

I wanted a lambo but ended up getting a hybrid.

:/

Maybe if I save petrol now they might give it me back later.

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Kiro
03-02-2016, 05:31 PM
ur allowed to buy expensive things but a Lamborghini is on the extreme side
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strivingobserver98
03-02-2016, 05:36 PM
An answer by Mufti Ebrahim Desai regarding Ferrari:

Allah Taa’la has bestowed us with wealth. This is a blessing of Allah upon which we should always express our gratitude and Shukr. Allah states "If you are grateful, I will increase my blessings upon you and if you are ungrateful my punishment is severe". The are two ways of expressing Shukr and gratitude. One is verbally and the other practical. Verbal will mean to say thank you or Shukr to Allah with the mouth. Practical would mean the wealth Allah has blessed you with, to use it in a correct manner fulfilling all the rights that are attached to it. Extravagance, wastage, etc. are all signs of ingratitude to the favours of Allah. Allah likens those who waste and are extravagant to the brothers of Shaytaan.

Nevertheless, owning a Ferrari motorcar is generally a sign to show ones richness and status. Sometimes owning a Ferrari now gives license to the owner to secure his place in the category of the super rich and elite. If the Ferrari is bought with this intention, it is not permissible as this will be tantamount to extravagance and will become a source of pride which is Haraam.

However, if the Ferrari is bought for investment purposes and the intention is solely to resell it on a profit, then it will be permissible to purchase it.
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hisnameiszzz
03-02-2016, 07:36 PM
Oh wow. Just think of all the smiles and heartfelt duas you would get from donating some or all of that money to orphans / widows / people in need. A car is a car, it doesn't have to be something so over the top does it? :p
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M.I.A.
03-02-2016, 07:41 PM
...who's to say he does not?

Pay zakat so your belongings are not a burden to you.

Although probably just as wise to read your quls and invest in a few dash cams.

..because the 430 scudaria is way out of budget since doubling in value.
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BilalKid
03-02-2016, 09:32 PM
remember :shade:

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Search
03-02-2016, 10:28 PM
:bism:

:sl:

Well, bro Farhan already posted an Islamic response.

So, now, I get to come up to your thread and tell you that maybe you might want to consider donating a Lamborghini to me - after all, you should wish for your poor Muslim sister who can't afford one what you wish for yourself. Amiright? I'm right. Okay, looking forward to having one delivered to me soon In-sha-Allah.

Thank you. Have a good day.

:wa:
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Kiro
03-02-2016, 10:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Search
:bism:

:sl:

Well, bro Farhan already posted an Islamic response.

So, now, I get to come up to your thread and tell you that maybe you might want to consider donating a Lamborghini to me - after all, you should wish for your poor Muslim sister who can't afford one what you wish for yourself. Amiright? I'm right. Okay, looking forward to having one delivered to me soon In-sha-Allah.

Thank you. Have a good day.

:wa:
bruvv he should use the money to buy me a super gaming computer with a fancy strawberry milk fam
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M.I.A.
03-02-2016, 10:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by BilalKid
remember :shade:

:|

If I get a lambo I'm driving it at night while your all sleeping.

...em...not batman.

And definitely reading my qul.


I still don't get the mentality?


I know someone who has a Lamborghini.. He can't be beaten on price..

Not sure what charity looks like.

(Probably a women)


...please correct my understanding, I work long hours for not so much alhamdulillah.

Have not saved for the car once yet.
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~ Sabr ~
03-14-2016, 03:36 PM
:salamext:

Yes it is a waste of money. Fear Allaah and donate to the poor :ia:
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Raptor
03-14-2016, 04:15 PM
It's usually bought to show off rather than actual usage so try not to buy it and spend the wealth in a better way insha Allah
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M.I.A.
03-14-2016, 07:17 PM
For those that deny themselves is a great reward.

...spend too long in your company and I'd probably have to walk.

Lol I was going to be a pharmacist once.

Although I probably have a question of people ready to remind me.

..I'd buy a lambo.. Because people keep scratching up my civic.


...line of people lol, predictive text ain't my strong suit.

Sorry.

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...apparently uploading from a potato.. It's funny if you can actually read it..

If not then struggle with pixels.
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Abz2000
03-14-2016, 07:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by فرحان
An answer by Mufti Ebrahim Desai regarding Ferrari:

Nevertheless, owning a Ferrari motorcar is generally a sign to show ones richness and status. Sometimes owning a Ferrari now gives license to the owner to secure his place in the category of the super rich and elite. If the Ferrari is bought with this intention, it is not permissible as this will be tantamount to extravagance and will become a source of pride which is Haraam.

However, if the Ferrari is bought for investment purposes and the intention is solely to resell it on a profit, then it will be permissible to purchase it.
Lol, but if everyone bought it to sell it only, then who would drive it, or should it be driven only in the process between buying and selling? :)

I believe that if someone has loads of wealth and they give the dues of Allah, and are also very charitable etc, there's no harm whatsoever in buying and driving one's dream car, remember the advice given to Qarun? Imagine if your dad was a multi-billionaire and you had been seeing a bugatti growing up and you alway's drew pictures of them and kept posters on your room wall and your dad told you he'd buy you one if you did well in exams, would you normally say no? I mean, you can give it in charity later and if you're a celebrity and want to use that status and also drive a cool car, it might bring in ten times the price for the organization you donate it to just because you drove it, or maybe if you thought it was extravagant and the money should go to charity, you still might have hundreds of times the amount left in the amanah business account, will you give it all in charity? What of the business empire worth thousands of times more?
i don't think such limits would work but what would work is encouraging people to be very charitable if they have loads of wealth, that way they could get good in this world and in eternity, gain prayers and blessings, and avoid the jealous evil eye.

I don't say this because i'm very wealthy because i'm hardly so, but i have met and lived with people who own huge national factories and businesses and have learned to think from their stance too, i've observed their teenage children who often go abroad and live very luxuriously, buy everyone they know and hardly know presents, and even bought a teacher in the bookshop a few hundred pounds worth of books because he was so helpful and was flipping through a book he didn't intend to buy, their family is also so charitable to the extent that nobody in their distant relatives appears to remain poor or without a computer for kids studies (and that was in the 1990s in bangladesh), and even ministers come to beg money off them, they sponsor national cricket teams, and the adverts they have plastered around the country alone are probably worth quite a few bugattis.
Imagine telling them that it's haraam to buy a dream car when they're old enough?

Allah himself tells us that "you have a sense of pride in them as you lead them forth to pasture" so we have got to remember that to some people, driving a bugatti is less significant than what driving a bmw is for another person, and a new ford escort is for another person.
Where would we draw the limit on Allah's grace?
You do know that in some countries, less than 15% of the people own a mobile phone, imagine what the remaining 85% must think of iphone owners! Especially when they run out of food sometimes or when their child falls ill and they have to take them to a grimy hospital and even then, have to take the £3medicine from the kindhearted pharamist on credit? Could you justify even owning a watch, taking the bus when you could have walked, or buying pilau rice insted of the cheaper stuff?

Much better to let people freely make their choices within the halal, but make them also see the desperate need to help others.

Still, i can't help but smile when i see this car, i know i can't afford it but i know it's Allah's lawful gift to mankind and the owner should be grateful and hugely charitable and i refuse to be jealous and i defo wouldn't have any qualms about feeling the engine roar as i stepped on the gas at full throttle. I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie and love the headrush that comes from dangerous speeds.







Also keep this in mind depending on your financial situation and intention:

Malik's Muwatta, Book 21, Number 21.1.3:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam from Abu Salih as-Samman from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Horses are a reward for one man, a protection for another, a burden for another.
The one who has them as a reward is the one who dedicates them for use in the way of Allah, and tethers them in a meadow or grassland. Whatever the horse enjoys of the grassland or meadow in the length of its tether are good deeds for him. If it breaks its tether and goes over a hillock or two, its tracks and droppings are good deeds for him. If it crosses a river and drinks from it while he did not mean to allow it to drink it, that counts as good deeds for him, and the horse is a reward for him.*
Another man uses his horse to gain self reliance and up-standingness and does not forget Allah's right on their necks and backs (i.e. he does not ill treat or over-work them). Horses are a protection for him .
Another man uses them out of pride to show them off and in hostility to the people of Islam. They are a burden on that man."

The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was asked about donkeys, and he said, "Nothing has been revealed to me about them except this single all-inclusive ayat, 'Whoever does an atom of good will see it, and whoever does an atom of evil, will see it.' " (Sura 99 Ayats 7,8) .

http://www.tuba-archery.com/article/horse-hadith.html
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M.I.A.
03-14-2016, 07:41 PM
:|

..you could probably buy ten lesser cars for that amount.

You have impeccable timing lol..

I used to tell younger friends to aim higher, to understand that the roles they will play are of authority and responsibility.

..even when they were unsure I told them that these times were just stepping stones.

Now they tell me my wage is written lol.

..better to be forgetten than made hard of heart.
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Abz2000
03-14-2016, 08:32 PM
That car looks too nice to not leave a decent reminder of the fact that the people with the easiest accounts will be those who took least during the time they spent on this world, here are some heart softening stories:

...Remember Elijah, who fled through desert places of the mountains, eating only grass, clad in goats' skin. Ah, how many days he supped not! Ah, how much cold he endured! Ah, how many showers drenched him and [that] for the space of seven years, wherein endured that fierce persecution of the unclean Jezebel!'

Remember Elisha, who ate barley-bread, and wore the coarsest raiment. Verily I say unto you that they, not fearing to spurn the flesh, were feared with great terror by the king and princes. This should suffice for the spurning of the flesh, O men. But if ye will gaze at the graves ye shall know what flesh is.'
From Barnabas 23


Book 42, Number 7058:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The world is a prison-house for a believer and Paradise for a non-believer.

Book 42, Number 7059:
Jabir b. Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may p(-ace be upon him) happened to walk through the bazar coming from the side of 'Aliya and the people were on both his sides.There he found a dead lamb with very short ears. He took hold of his ear and said: Who amongst you would like to have this for a dirham? They said: We do not like to have it even for less than that as it is of no use to us. He said: Do you wish to have it (free of any cost)?They said: By Allah, even if it were alive (we would not have liked to possess that), for there is detect in it as its ear is very short; now it is dead also.Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: By Allah, this world is more insignificant in the eye of Allah as it (this dead lamb) is in your eye.

Book 42, Number 7060:
Jabir reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) narrating a hadith like this with a slight variation of wording.

Book 42, Number 7061:Mutarrif reported on the authority of his father: I came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as he was reciting: "Abundance diverts you" (cii. 1).He said: The son of Adam claims: My wealth, my wealth.And he (the Holy Prophet) said: O son of Adam. is there anything as your belonging except that which you consumed, which you utilised, or which you wore and then it was worn out or you gave as charity and sent it forward?


Book 42, Number 7068:
Abu Huraira reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:

When one of you looks at one who stands at a higher level than you in regard to wealth and physical structure
he should also see one who stands at a lower level than you in regard to these things (in which he stands) at a higher level (as compared to him).



Before feeling so guilty for Allah's gifts or so exalted at Allah's gift, or so beatdown at someone else's dazzling wealth or so angry at the luxuries they selfishly enjoy, or feeling confused at the seeming imbalance, it is also useful to think about the fact that many of you "selfishly" reap loads of nawafil and sadaqah etc while others don't get the chance, the fact that there's often a kaafir next door that might be destined to suffer badly in hell doesn't make you feel guilty about reaping the rewards of taraweeh does it?
I mean, you don't say, oh i feel so guilty for repenting and crying and trying to have my sins forgiven and maybe even hoping to gain huge luxurious mansions and gardens and delicate food whilst my neighbour is deprived! Oh Allah, please deprive me in eternity and give him all my rewards if their are any and make me suffer eternally.
But then, some, they strive in Allah's path with their persons and their properties to ensure that they and most others can be guided and achieve worldly as well as eternal success, and sometimes they forsake their share in this world for that cause, and still get called troublemakers by the passive after their death!
i feel hypocritical saying all this but know that it's the truth and that i must say it since i might forget it later.


Hadith 40: The ultimate reward in ParadiseAbu Sa’eed Al-Khudri reported:
The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

:إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَقُولُ لِأَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ يَا أَهْلَ الْجَنَّةِ فَيَقُولُونَ لَبَّيْكَ رَبَّنَا وَسَعْدَيْكَ وَالْخَيْرُ فِي يَدَيْكَ فَيَقُولُ هَلْ رَضِيتُمْ فَيَقُولُونَ وَمَا لَنَا لَا نَرْضَى يَا رَبِّ وَقَدْ أَعْطَيْتَنَا مَا لَمْ تُعْطِ أَحَدًا مِنْ خَلْقِكَ فَيَقُولُ أَلَا أُعْطِيكُمْ أَفْضَلَ مِنْ ذَلِكَ فَيَقُولُونَ يَا رَبِّ وَأَيُّ شَيْءٍ أَفْضَلُ مِنْ ذَلِكَ فَيَقُولُ أُحِلُّ عَلَيْكُمْ رِضْوَانِي فَلَا أَسْخَطُ عَلَيْكُمْ بَعْدَهُ أَبَدًاV

Verily, Allah will say to the people of Paradise:
O people of Paradise!
They will say: We are at your service, our Lord, all goodness is in Your hand!
Allah will say: Are you satisfied?
They will say: Why should we not be satisfied when You have given us what you have not given to any other creation?
Allah will say: Shall I not give you something better than that?
They will say: O Lord, what could possibly be better than that?
Allah will say: I will bestow upon you My pleasure and I will never be displeased with you afterwards.

Source: Sahih Bukhari 6183,*Grade:*Muttafaqun Alayhi
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M.I.A.
03-14-2016, 10:12 PM
Nice mashallah, now I feel even worse lol..

Tarwee prayer is missed because it is the busiest time of year.

I guess serving the creation is what got me in this mess in the first place.

...at least all my customers look nice and clean for a while.

To be fair I don't want the car.. I'd rather have an understanding of Allah swt..

That was one of the reasons I gave up on life in the first place.

Iv met people that would rather stand on a chair when I walk past..

Well an electrical outlet, they broke all the chairs.
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~ Sabr ~
03-15-2016, 02:58 PM
Waste of money - KHALAAS!
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