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Glac09
05-13-2016, 08:45 PM



An Australian preacher from Melbourne was among five men arrested in north Queensland on suspicions they planned to sail to Indonesia en route to join ISIS.

Musa Cerantino was arrested along with Kadir Kaya, Shayden Thorne and two unnamed men, all of whom were known to security agencies and had their passports revoked.

The group was arrested on Tuesday evening north of Cairns after towing a seven-metre boat on a minimum 31-hour drive from Melbourne.

The federal attorney general, George Brandis, said: “I can’t rule out the possibility that there may be others but this is the first attempt to leave Australia by vessel of which we are aware.”

The men, aged between 21 and 33, have not been charged and police have applied to extend their detainment.

Eight search warrants were executed in Melbourne on Wednesday in connection with the alleged plot.

The deputy commissioner of the Victoria police, Shane Patton, told reporters on Wednesday the seriousness of the allegations should not be downplayed.

“I want to be perfectly clear,” he said. “This is a serious attempt by five men who are of security interest to us, who have had their passports cancelled.

“Ultimately we’re investigating the intention to possibly end up in Syria to fight.”

Alex Jones, a solicitor acting for Thorne, said on Wednesday he was not aware of any charges laid against his client.

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BilalKid
05-13-2016, 08:55 PM
he try to join is before?? :nervous:

this gd news!! :shade:
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Misbah0411
05-13-2016, 09:52 PM
They haven't been charged but the disbelievers always goes ahead and put in their Mainstream Media presumptuously that they are leaving to join the Islamic State so as to condemn them in the court of public opinion.
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Abz2000
05-14-2016, 04:27 AM



Ask this man if we are runaway slaves who are to be returned to their rightful masters.

Attributed to Ja'far ibn Abi Taalib in the court of king Negus of Abyssinia.


Umm Abdullah bint Khatamah, a lady related to Umar, also accepted Islam. Umar was very furious at her conversion. As she along with her husband Amar bin Rabiah and other early converts decided to migrate to Abyssinia, Umar felt moved. He visited her and said, "Umm Abdullah are you going?"
She said, By God, you have made our living in Mecca very difficult. There is no option with us but to migrate elsewhere."
Inadvertently Umar said, 'Umm Abdullah, may God protect you; go in peace."
At that time Umm Abdullah felt that in spite of Umar's opposition to Islam, he would one day accept the new faith.

http://www.islamforlife.co.uk/khalifa_umar_bin_al.htm




The polytheists of Quraysh panicked when the Muslims migrated to Abyssinia in succession. They did not intend to stop following the Muslims who were living abroad. They worried about the spread of Islam in these kinds of countries and about this glorious faith coming to a state in which it would be insurmountable.

Nevertheless, for as long as the Muslims were under the asylum of the King of Abyssinia, it would be much easier for Arabia to be under Islam’s bosom. In this way, the barriers they attempted to place before Islam would be razed to the ground.The dissatisfied and worried polytheists spoke among themselves and decided to request from the King of Abyssinia that he return the Muslims who had migrated.*

They assigned Amr bin As and Abdullah bin Abi Rabia as their envoys. Their plan was this:

They were going to take valuable gifts to Najashi (the King of Abyssinia) and the other leading figures. The gifts would first be given to the government officials and the polytheists’ wishes would be presented. Afterwards, they would present their gift to the King.Their purpose behind their plan was this:By presenting their gifts to the government officials first, they would receive support from the government officials; thus, no chance would be given to the King to talk to the Muslim refugees.When the envoys went to Abyssinia, they applied their plan.As they presented their gifts to the government officials, they said:

“Some members of our youth have separated from the path of their forefathers.
They have not converted to your faith; they have emerged with a brand new religion.
Currently, they are under the sanctuary of your King. We were sent by our tribe to request their return.
When we convey our wish to the King, help us by not allowing a chance for the King to speak with the Muslims. Support us in the matter of their surrendering and say:
“They obviously know more about and are better acquainted with those who are from among them. They can see their faults better than anyone else.”

The courtiers were deceived by the valuable gifts and promised to support the polytheists.The envoys went to the presence of the King and expressed their wish:

“O, King! These people, who have left us and have ruined our working order, have come here to damage your religion, country, and society. We came to warn you regarding this matter. They do not recognize Jesus, the Son of Mary, as God’s son. (((Lol, like the pagans of Makkah did?)))
They do not bow down before you when they are in your presence. Return them to us and we will deal with them.”

*As is seen, the envoys expressed their wish in a very sly manner. They knew the King was a Christian and for that reason, they tried to win the King over through this point by saying, “They do not recognize Jesus, the Son of Mary, as God’s son” so that he would be angered.

The courtiers supported what the emissaries said in accordance with plan: “O King, they speak the truth. Of course, they are better acquainted and know them better than anyone else. They can see what faults they have more clearly. Let us surrender the Muslims to them so that they can take them back to their own homeland and tribe.”

While the government officials were sanguinely expecting the King to say, “yes” to their request, Najashi angrily said, “By God, no. I will not surrender those who are helpless, who have settled in my country, and have preferred me to others. I will not make my decision without first talking to them. If the matter is as the envoys say it is, then, I will surrender them and have them return to their homeland. If it is just the opposite, then I will protect and look after them in the best manner.”*

Later, Najashi invited the Muslims to come by sending an inviter. The refugees chose Hazrat Jafar as their representative and went to the palace all together.The priests that Najashi had invited were inside along with the representatives of the Quraysh.

Hazrat Jafar greeted Najashi when he went amid his presence; however, he did not prostrate before him.When the courtiers asked Hazrat Jafar, “Why did you not bow down before the King?” he answered,“We only bow before Allah.”“Why?” they asked again.“Allah has sent His Messenger to us and His Messenger has prohibited us from bowing down before anyone other than Allah.”

Upon this, the representatives said, “O King, had we not explained their condition to you?”
Najashi turned to the Muslims and asked, “Why did you come to my country? What state are you in?
You are not merchants and you do not seem to want anything. In that case, why did you come to my country? What kind of state is your Prophet in? Explain me why you do not greet me like your countrymen do.”

Before answering these questions, Hazrat Jafar said, “O King, I am going to say three things. If I speak the truth, then affirm what I say; and if I lie, then disaffirm my words. Firstly, command one of these representatives to speak and the other to remain silent!”

Amr bin As was the representative who chose to speak.

Upon this, Hazrat Jafar addressed Najashi, “Ask this man if we are slaves who are to be returned to our masters?”

Najashi asked, “O Amr, are they slaves?”Amr replied, “No, they are dignified free men.”This time, Hazrat Jafar said, “Ask this man whether we have shed anyone’s blood unjustly and if we are to be given back to those whose blood we have shed?”“O Amr, have they shed anyone’s blood unjustly?” asked Najashi.

Amr responded, “No, they have not shed a single drop of blood.”

Hazrat Jafar turned towards Najashi once more, “Have we taken goods from the community unjustly, do we have any goods that we are obliged to pay for?”
Najashi said, “O Amr, if these poor men have any debt amounting to one qantar (about 50 kg) of gold then I will pay it off.”

Amr replied, “No, they do not have a carat’s worth of debt!”Upon this, Najashi asked, “In that case, what do you want from these men?”

Amr responded, “We used to follow the same religion. They left our faith and have submitted to Muhammad’s religion.”

This time Najashi turned to Hazrat Jafar and asked, “Why did you leave a thing that you were committed to for another? Considering that you have separated from the religion of your tribe and do not follow my religion or that of another people’s, what is this religion that you have joined?”Hazrat Jafar deemed it more suitable to start explaining from the beginning,

“O King, we were an ignorant people. We used to worship idols and eat carrion. We used to commit any kind of wrong deed that comes to the mind. We would break off ties with our parents and relatives, harm our neighbors, and oppress the weak.
While we were in this state, Allah sent us a Prophet from among ourselves. A prophet whose progeny, integrity, trustworthiness, honor, and purity we knew of. He called us to believe in the existence and oneness of Allah, to worship Him, and to abandon the idols that both we and our forefathers worshipped.

He commanded us to be forthright, to deliver all that has been entrusted to us to their rightful places, to protect the rights of our relatives, to get along with our neighbors, and to avoid sins and bloodshed.
He prohibited us from fornication, lies, encroaching upon the rights of orphans, and slandering honorable women.
We have testified to him and his cause. We have submitted to what he brings from Allah and makes known to us.
For that reason, our tribe has treated us like an enemy and has tortured us.
They inflicted all kinds of torture and persecution to dissuade us from our religion, hinder us from worshipping Allah, and to make us worship their idols.
Due to all of these reasons, we abandoned our homeland and homes and came to your country.
We sought shelter from you and preferred you to others. We hope not to face torture and injustice in your presence.”*

Afterwards, Hazrat Jafar responded to the King’s question as to why he did not bow down before him:
“When it comes to the matter of greeting you, we have greeted you with the greeting of Allah’s Apostle. We always greet one another in this manner. We learned from our Prophet (PBUH) that those who will enter Paradise will greet one another in this fashion.
For that reason, we have greeted you in this way.
When it comes to the matter of prostration, we prostrate before Allah and we take refuge in Allah from bowing down before anyone else.”*

Hazrat Jafar’s words had a very deep impact on Najashi. The polytheists just stood there in silence.

http://www.resulullah.org/en/second-...rate-abyssinia

Isn't it amazing that the australian government claim that they are worried about the possibility of these people fighting the australian government and australians, so they decide to prevent them from going to syria where they might attack australians??? So they haul them back to Australia.........
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Serinity
05-14-2016, 06:58 PM
^ so those australians are like those polytheists?

Those brothers (assuming that they're brothers) moved away to Syria perhaps because of the oppression in Australia, and now the lies from Australia in the news paper, are showing?

Allah alam.
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