The Hoor-ul-`Een

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

بسم الله الرحمان الرحيم

There is a lot of mention in the Qur'aan and in many Ahaadeeth about the Hoor-ul-`Een in Jannah; these mentions serve as an encouragement for men to stay away from Haraam in this Dunyaa and to make the Aakhirah their goal. What is the life of this Dunyaa compared to the Aakhirah?

You get certain modernists who do not like the topic; you get feminists who feel it is undermining of women; you get deviants who claim that it is only metaphorical and that there is no sexual intercourse in Jannah. All of these are liars. The Hoor-ul-`Een are a reality. Allaah Ta`aalaa has created them for the men. They are not a metaphorical "concept". Allaah Ta`aalaa will grant both men and women everything they want in Jannah.

So in the spirit of encouraging others towards Jannah and turning away from this Dunyaa, and for the sake of angering the enemies of Islaam, the deviants/modernists/feminists who will hate it (because angering them is rewarding), we have made this thread on the topic in which we will, In Shaa Allaah, post information regarding the Hoor-ul-`Een, their description in Qur'aan and Sunnah, dreams people have had about them, etc.

No Muslim woman who reads about the Hoor-ul-`Een ever needs to feel jealous in any way, because Allaah Ta`aalaa will grant them - in Jannah - beauty which far surpasses that of any Hoori.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Imaam al-Ghazaali writes in "Ihyaa `Uloom ad-Deen":

“According to Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم the Hurs (Houris) of Paradise will be pure women—free of menstruation, urine, stool, cough and children. The Hoors will sing in Paradise on divine purity and praise—we are most beautiful Hoors and we are for the honored husbands. Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم also said that an inmate of Paradise will have the sexual strength of 70 men. Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم said, “An inmate of Paradise will have 500 Hoors, 4,000 unmarried women and 8,000 widowed women. Each of them will keep embracing him for the duration of his whole worldly life.” [Ihyaa `Uloom ad-Deen, vol.4, p.430]

(12,500 women.)

This Hadeeth is also narrated by Imaam ibn Abi-d Dunyaa in Sifat-ul-Jannah and by Imaam al-Bayhaqi in al-Ba`th wan-Nushoor.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

The man with the least number of wives in Jannah will have 72 wives; 2 from the women of this Dunyaa, and 70 from the Hoor-ul-`Een. [Tuhfat-ul-Ahwazhi lil-Mubaarakfoori.]

[M.I.A.]

well increasingly I am coming to think that it's not what you do that counts.

it's who you do it for.

hence the disproportionate response.


cringe.

oh eyes that have betrayed me.

hands that let me down.

feet that led me to the place.

...hopefully you are all the wrong way round.

dab cringe.

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[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in Soorah al-Waaqi`ah:

وَحُورٌ عِينٌ

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ

{"And (there will be for the Muslimeen, in Jannah) fair females with wide, lovely eyes. Like unto preserved pearls."** [Soorah al-Waaqi`ah, 56:22, 23]

In Tafseer as-Sa`di, Imaam as-Sa`di رحمة الله عليه explains this Aayah, saying:

والحوراء : التي في عينها كحل وملاحة ، وحسن وبهاء ، والعِين : حسان الأعين وضخامها ، وحسن العين في الأنثى من أعظم الأدلة على حسنها وجمالها

"Al-Hawraa (pl. Hoor): A female whose eyes are lined with Kuhl and which are extremely beautiful and bright. Al-`Een refers to eyes which are beautiful and wide.

Beautiful eyes in a female is one of the greatest signs of her beauty."

Explaining the Aayah, "Like unto preserved pearls," he says:

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ أي : كأنهن اللؤلؤ الأبيض الرطب الصافي البهي ، المستور عن الأعين والريح والشمس ، الذي يكون لونه من أحسن الألوان ، الذي لا عيب فيه بوجه من الوجوه ، فكذلك الحور العين ، لا عيب فيهن بوجه ، بل هن كاملات الأوصاف ، جميلات النعوت . فكل ما تأملته منها لم تجد فيه إلا ما يسر الخاطر ويروق الناظر

"Like unto preserved pearls: Meaning, it is as though they (the Hoors) are pure, white, shining pearls; concealed from the eyes (of men), from the wind and from the rain. Their colour is the most beautiful of colours; there is no fault therein nor any blemish. Such are the Hoor-ul-`Een; there is no fault in them whatsoever. Their qualities are all perfect. They are altogether lovely. Each time you look upon them, you see nothing except that which gladdens the heart and delights the beholder."

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

وعن زيد بن أرقم أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال : " إِنَّ الرَّجُلَ مِنْ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ يُعْطَى قُوَّةَ مِائَةِ رَجُلٍ فِي الأَكْلِ وَالشُّرْبِ وَالشَّهْوَةِ وَالْجِمَاعِ . فَقَالَ رَجُلٌ مِنْ الْيَهُودِ : فَإِنَّ الَّذِي يَأْكُلُ وَيَشْرَبُ تَكُونُ لَهُ الْحَاجَةُ ؟! قَالَ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : حَاجَةُ أَحَدِهِمْ عَرَقٌ يَفِيضُ مِنْ جِلْدِهِ فَإِذَا بَطْنُهُ قَدْ ضَمُرَ " رواه أحمد

Hadhrat Zayd ibn Arqam رضي الله عنه narrates that Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "A man from the people of Jannah will be given the strength of 100 men in eating, drinking, desire and sexual intercourse." A man from the Jews asked, "The one who eats and drinks has a need (i.e. to excrete)?" Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "The need of one of them (will be answered) in the form of sweat which comes out through his skin, then his stomach will reduce in size again." [Narrated by Imaam Ahmad in his Musnad.]

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in Soorah ar-Rahmaan, describing the women of Jannah:

كَأَنَّهُنَّ الْيَاقُوتُ وَالْمَرْجَانُ


"(In beauty) they are like rubies and coral." [Soorah ar-Rahmaan, 55:58]

Explaining this Aayah, Imaam at-Tabari رحمة الله عليه says:

قال ابن زيد في قوله ( كأنهن الياقوت والمرجان ) : كأنهن الياقوت في الصفاء , والمرجان في البياض ، الصفاء صفاء الياقوتة ، والبياض بياض اللؤلؤ

"Ibn Zayd said regarding the Aayah, "(In beauty) they are like rubies and coral": It is as though they are rubies in their purity, and like coral in their whiteness. The purity is the purity of rubies and the whiteness is the whiteness of pearls." [Tafseer at-Tabari.]

[Aaqib]

well increasingly I am coming to think that it's not what you do that counts.

it's who you do it for.

hence the disproportionate response.


cringe.

oh eyes that have betrayed me.

hands that let me down.

feet that led me to the place.

...hopefully you are all the wrong way round.

dab cringe.

What? lol

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in the Qur'aan, describing the Hoor-ul-`Een:

وَكَوَاعِبَ أَتْرَابًا


"(The men of Jannah will have maidens who are) Kawaa`ib; equal in age." [Soorah an-Naba', 78:33]

In Tafseer ibn Katheer, Imaam ibn Katheer رحمة الله عليه explains the word "Kawaa`ib" used in this Aayah, saying:

كَوَاعِبَ أَيْ: نَوَاهِدَ، يَعْنُونَ أَنْ ثُدُيَّهن نَوَاهِدَ لَمْ يَتَدَلَّيْنَ لِأَنَّهُنَّ أَبْكَارٌ

"Kawaa`ib means "Nawaahid" (large, full breasts) which do not sag, because they (the Hoor-ul-`Een) are youthful virgins." [Tafseer ibn Katheer.]

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

A short clip on the description of the Hoor-ul-`Een by Shaykh `Umar as-Suwaylim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hre0pgamd8

A must watch.

[M.I.A.]

What? lol

ah hem.. sorry slightly of topic.

carry on.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

ah hem.. sorry slightly of topic.

carry on.

You don't want 12,500 Hoor-ul-`Een?

One day an `Aalim was giving a Bayaan in a Masjid (Jumu`ah), and he was speaking about this very topic of Hoor-ul-`Een. And, he was saying that some people bring up objections about Hoor-ul-`Een, saying, "Why 72?! Why so many?!" "Why are they described in such and such way?" "Why are they mentioned?!" Etc.

He says he tells them, "Well, if you don't want them, you can give them to me."

[Serinity]

You don't want 12,500 Hoor-ul-`Een?

One day an `Aalim was giving a Bayaan in a Masjid (Jumu`ah), and he was speaking about this very topic of Hoor-ul-`Een. And, he was saying that some people bring up objections about Hoor-ul-`Een, saying, "Why 72?! Why so many?!" "Why are they described in such and such way?" "Why are they mentioned?!" Etc.

He says he tells them, "Well, if you don't want them, you can give them to me."

I thought only Shaheeds got 72 hoors and 2 wives? And the lowest of Jannati inhabitants got 2 wives.

[Umm Abed]

And what do people who were unmarried in this world, get?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I thought only Shaheeds got 72 hoors and 2 wives? And the lowest of Jannati inhabitants got 2 wives.

No. Imaam al-Mubaarakfoori narrates from Mullah `Ali al-Qaari in Tuhfat-ul-Ahwadhi Sharh Sunan at-Tirmidhee, that the meaning of the Hadeeth which states that the lowest Jannati will have two wives, is that the Hadeeth is referring to two wives from the women of the Dunyaa. The rest of the 70 will be from the Hoor-ul-`Een. Wallaahu A`lam.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

And what do people who were unmarried in this world, get?

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-`Uthaymeen was asked about this, so he replied:

“If a woman died before marrying in this world, Allaah `Azza wa Jall will provide her with a husband who will delight her heart. Bliss in Paradise is equally for men and women, and it certainly includes marriage.”

But she will get even more than that. There is one Aayah everyone must keep in mind, and that is:

ولكم فيها ما تشتهي أنفسكم

"You will have therein (i.e. Jannah) whatever you desire..."

No woman should worry that she will get deprived. No matter what she desires, she will get in Jannah, In Shaa Allaah. No one will be deprived.

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in the Qur'aan Kareem:

فَلاَ تَعْلَمُ نَفْسٌ مَا أُخْفِيَ لَهُمْ مِنْ قُرَّةِ أَعْيُنٍ

"No soul knows what has been hidden for them from the cooling bounties (of Jannah)..."

This applies equally to both men and women.

عَنْ أبي هرَيْرَة رضَيَ الله عنه قال : قَالَ الرسول صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : ( ... وَمَا فِي الْجَنَّةِ أَعْزَبُ ) رواه مسلم

Hadhrat Abu Hurayrah رضي الله عنه narrates that Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "There will be no unmarried person in Jannah." [Narrated in Saheeh Muslim.]

[M.I.A.]

You don't want 12,500 Hoor-ul-`Een?

One day an `Aalim was giving a Bayaan in a Masjid (Jumu`ah), and he was speaking about this very topic of Hoor-ul-`Een. And, he was saying that some people bring up objections about Hoor-ul-`Een, saying, "Why 72?! Why so many?!" "Why are they described in such and such way?" "Why are they mentioned?!" Etc.

He says he tells them, "Well, if you don't want them, you can give them to me."

...surely what is for you is for you alone.

I have no idea what is mine?

let me know if you find anything with my name on it.

jk..

seriously just a joke.

I have no concept of any of it!

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

...surely what is for you is for you alone.

I have no idea what is mine?

let me know if you find anything with my name on it.

Don't worry, akhi. Whatever is meant for you, you will get.

[TDWT]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in Soorah ar-Rahmaan, describing the women of Jannah:

كَأَنَّهُنَّ الْيَاقُوتُ وَالْمَرْجَانُ


"(In beauty) they are like rubies and coral." [Soorah ar-Rahmaan, 55:58]

Explaining this Aayah, Imaam at-Tabari رحمة الله عليه says:

قال ابن زيد في قوله ( كأنهن الياقوت والمرجان ) : كأنهن الياقوت في الصفاء , والمرجان في البياض ، الصفاء صفاء الياقوتة ، والبياض بياض اللؤلؤ

"Ibn Zayd said regarding the Aayah, "(In beauty) they are like rubies and coral": It is as though they are rubies in their purity, and like coral in their whiteness. The purity is the purity of rubies and the whiteness is the whiteness of pearls." [Tafseer at-Tabari.]

Btw, in regards to the ruby part, have scholars of tasfir said that the houri's have a red tint/pink tint to their complexion as well? I've seen shia tasfir's say this like they have red cheeks and I saw it in yusuf ali translation that the houris have delicate pink complexion, so I was just wondering about if mainstream tasfir scholars have said that

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"They are like rubies and corals" with red cheeks, and white complexion and fineness

• Source:
• FayD al-Kashaanee, Tafseer al-Saafee, vol. 5, pg. 113

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"They are like rubies and corals" - in red cheeks, and white complexion and fineness

• Source:
• al-Kashaani, al-aSfee fee al-Tafseer al-Qur'aan, vol. 2, pg. 1247

[Kiro]

Admit it

you simply just wanted to talk about Hoors

[TDWT]

Don't worry, akhi. Whatever is meant for you, you will get.

About my pm, I found this

[TDWT]

@

Huzaifah ibn Adam

It was usage of the word houri in pre islamic poetry, like the claim presented in that modernist view point

[TDWT]

@Huzaifah ibn Adam

[TDWT]

can we say verses addressing them were to the early arabs

[TDWT]

@Huzaifah ibn Adam

Speaking of which, I found this:

http://library.islamweb.net/newlibra...no=37&ayano=49

In here, it says that ibn zayd says that the houris are white mixed with yellow like ostrich eggs and as show here:


والعين : جمع عيناء ، وهي الواسعة العين في جمال . ( كأنهن بيض مكنون ) شبههن ، قال الجمهور : ببيض النعام المكنون في عشه ، وهو الأدحية ولونها بياض به صفرة حسنة ، وبها تشبه النساء فقال :

مضيئات الخدود ومنه قول امرئ القيس :


وبيضة خدر لا يرام خباؤها تمتعت من لهو بها غير معجل

كبكر المقاناة البياض بصفرة غذاها نمير الماء غير المحلل

The majority of scholars say they are white mixed with yellow as well, like ostrich eggs. Now, I know Ibn zayd and the majority of scholars say that the houri's whiteness are like coral(al marjan) or something and at the same time,they are also saying the houri's are this color. I have heard white mixed with yellow is like hinta(hinti), lightest shade before white or something, but I was wondering, are the scholars contradictory in describing the houri's whiteness like corals and this color as well? Do you know what al hinti/hinta looks like?

[islamirama]

can we say verses addressing them were to the early arabs

no, those were for the believers. The ones for the arabs was the hadith of the prophet :saws1: about them following the people of the book, even if the later go through a lizard's hole.

Imaam al-Ghazaali writes in "Ihyaa `Uloom ad-Deen":

“According to Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم the Hurs (Houris) of Paradise will be pure women—free of menstruation, urine, stool, cough and children. The Hoors will sing in Paradise on divine purity and praise—we are most beautiful Hoors and we are for the honored husbands. Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم also said that an inmate of Paradise will have the sexual strength of 70 men. Rasoolullaah صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم said, “An inmate of Paradise will have 500 Hoors, 4,000 unmarried women and 8,000 widowed women. Each of them will keep embracing him for the duration of his whole worldly life.” [Ihyaa `Uloom ad-Deen, vol.4, p.430]

(12,500 women.)

This Hadeeth is also narrated by Imaam ibn Abi-d Dunyaa in Sifat-ul-Jannah and by Imaam al-Bayhaqi in al-Ba`th wan-Nushoor.

Are you sure about this? 12,500 is a lot of women for one man. Even a strength of a 1000 men rather then 100 will not be enough. and since most women will be in the hellfire and each man will get 2 earthly women, so the other 12, 498 are hooren then?

if every one in jannah will get what their hearts desire, what if a earthly woman want more than one man?

[azc]

No hoor even La'iba, the most beautiful one, is so beautiful as your wife is in jannah

[TDWT]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in Soorah al-Waaqi`ah:

وَحُورٌ عِينٌ

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ

{"And (there will be for the Muslimeen, in Jannah) fair females with wide, lovely eyes. Like unto preserved pearls."** [Soorah al-Waaqi`ah, 56:22, 23]

In Tafseer as-Sa`di, Imaam as-Sa`di رحمة الله عليه explains this Aayah, saying:

والحوراء : التي في عينها كحل وملاحة ، وحسن وبهاء ، والعِين : حسان الأعين وضخامها ، وحسن العين في الأنثى من أعظم الأدلة على حسنها وجمالها

"Al-Hawraa (pl. Hoor): A female whose eyes are lined with Kuhl and which are extremely beautiful and bright. Al-`Een refers to eyes which are beautiful and wide.

Beautiful eyes in a female is one of the greatest signs of her beauty."

Explaining the Aayah, "Like unto preserved pearls," he says:

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ أي : كأنهن اللؤلؤ الأبيض الرطب الصافي البهي ، المستور عن الأعين والريح والشمس ، الذي يكون لونه من أحسن الألوان ، الذي لا عيب فيه بوجه من الوجوه ، فكذلك الحور العين ، لا عيب فيهن بوجه ، بل هن كاملات الأوصاف ، جميلات النعوت . فكل ما تأملته منها لم تجد فيه إلا ما يسر الخاطر ويروق الناظر

"Like unto preserved pearls: Meaning, it is as though they (the Hoors) are pure, white, shining pearls; concealed from the eyes (of men), from the wind and from the rain. Their colour is the most beautiful of colours; there is no fault therein nor any blemish. Such are the Hoor-ul-`Een; there is no fault in them whatsoever. Their qualities are all perfect. They are altogether lovely. Each time you look upon them, you see nothing except that which gladdens the heart and delights the beholder."

@Huzaifah ibn Adam
Hi Huzaifaih, in regards to the commentary of this verse here:


وَحُورٌ عِينٌ

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ

In this explanation:

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ أي : كأنهن اللؤلؤ الأبيض الرطب الصافي البهي ، المستور عن الأعين والريح والشمس ، الذي يكون لونه من أحسن الألوان ، الذي لا عيب فيه بوجه من الوجوه ، فكذلك الحور العين ، لا عيب فيهن بوجه ، بل هن كاملات الأوصاف ، جميلات النعوت . فكل ما تأملته منها لم تجد فيه إلا ما يسر الخاطر ويروق الناظر

I was just wondering, when he mentions that the houris color is the most beautiful, is he saying the color is beautiful because it has no faults/blemishes or is he saying the houris have the most beautiful colour and in addition, it has no faults or blemishes?

[azc]

And what about the women...will they see male-hoor..?

[Umm Abed]

And what about the women...will they see male-hoor..?

You dont get male-hoor. The women will be satisfied with just one.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

@Huzaifah ibn Adam
Hi Huzaifaih, in regards to the commentary of this verse here:


وَحُورٌ عِينٌ

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ

In this explanation:

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ أي : كأنهن اللؤلؤ الأبيض الرطب الصافي البهي ، المستور عن الأعين والريح والشمس ، الذي يكون لونه من أحسن الألوان ، الذي لا عيب فيه بوجه من الوجوه ، فكذلك الحور العين ، لا عيب فيهن بوجه ، بل هن كاملات الأوصاف ، جميلات النعوت . فكل ما تأملته منها لم تجد فيه إلا ما يسر الخاطر ويروق الناظر

I was just wondering, when he mentions that the houris color is the most beautiful, is he saying the color is beautiful because it has no faults/blemishes or is he saying the houris have the most beautiful colour and in addition, it has no faults or blemishes?

He is saying the colour is the most beautiful one in and of itself, not because it is free from blemishes. That is a separate thing.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

And what about the women...will they see male-hoor..?

​https://www.tafseer-raheemi.com/q473...women-as-well/

[Scimitar]

I honestly think this topic is discussing things which are really quite beyond our ability to fully comprehend.

And for the life of me, I cannot understand how people can discuss Hoor al ein, when the reality is - just getting into Jannah is a massive mercy in itself.

It's hellfire that should be the focus of our vigilance, and heaven the focus of our goal. Discussing the things of heaven mean nothing to me right now. Nothing at all. Because it's all speculation and that which is in heaven, no man can imagine - what we have are allegory, metaphor and simile which are weak humanized descriptions of other worldly things.

Scimi

[TDWT]

He is saying the colour is the most beautiful one in and of itself, not because it is free from blemishes. That is a separate thing.

This is a side note, but I was wondering, about houri's having slight yellow:

Mujāhid b. Jabr (d. 104/722; Ṭabarī, Tafsīr, xxvii, 102; Ibn Kathīr, Ṣifa, 110 f.) explains the allusion to a yellowish hue by asserting that the paradise virgins are created from saffron

Have you ever come across mujahid saying that? What did he say exactly?

[aaj]

You dont get male-hoor. The women will be satisfied with just one.

and what if some muslimah says that is unfair? why can't i have what my heart desires, isn't that what we are promised?

[Scimitar]

and what if some muslimah says that is unfair? why can't i have what my heart desires, isn't that what we are promised?

This is exactly what I mean, it's pointless discussing who gets what when you haven't gotten in there yet. LOL.

Scimi

[Umm Abed]

and what if some muslimah says that is unfair? why can't i have what my heart desires, isn't that what we are promised?

Bottom line is Allah swt is fair and just, so He knows us and our needs etc, I dont think anyone can find flaws in Jannah.

[azc]

​https://www.tafseer-raheemi.com/q473...women-as-well/

also I believe in what's explained in link though but question arise when rulings of shariah are applied on all regardless of gender and when doing a particular deed if the male is given hoor and if the woman does the same deed then what is the logic to get her deprived of the same reward...? (it's just a Q not what I believe)

[azc]

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You dont get male-hoor. The women will be satisfied with just one.

agree but if the husband is rewarded hell and wife heaven... Then... What...?

[azc]

I sum up : We don't know each and everything and nor we can. Only Allah swt knows best

[aaj]

I think we should just leave it at that Allah has promised you whatever your heart desires when you make it to paradise.

Allah is fair and just, He won't program you to be satisfied with what we think you will get or won't get.

[Serinity]

:salam:

we think of the Akhira and Jannat from what we know of this world. So all we know is what Allah has revealed to us. Jannah has not been seen by k imankind, Allah has not shown it to us, yet. Afaik.

So since we think of Jannat from the interpolation of this world, i.e. say, a huge Mansion in Jannah, you will think of a mansion and beautify it as much as you can.

But that beauty which you can compherehend and imagine, even if it be the most beautiful thing you have imagined or seen in this world. It is nothing compared to what is in Jannat.

So it is futile to compare one's feelings and wants from this world, and then interpolate it into Jannah. Of course, if you want a car, you will get that. Thing is, Allah knows us better than we know ourselves.

So, in short, Allah :swt: KNOWS what the hearts want. Allah :swt: CREATED you.

Correct me if I said anything wrong.

What we see and imagine is formed by our experiences and ability to think. We are limited in that regard.

Trust Allah, Allah WON'T disappoint us. That should assure anyone. But question is - will we disappoint ourselves?
Allahu alam.

[whosebob]

I think the Hoor-ain have a choice as well. They probably asking Allah to show them their prospective spouses in this world. That's why one should always be gentleman evens if you single inshallah.

[whosebob]

:salam:

Trust Allah, Allah WON'T disappoint us. That should assure anyone. But question is - will we disappoint ourselves?
Allahu alam.

Very True Serinity. Dunya is pretty basic compared to Jannah firdous inshallah. Allah won't disappoint us inshallah :)

[whosebob]

7, 70 and 700 was used by the arabics in the old days to describe a big number. So who knows what 72 wives really means :) I still don't know how one will pray for so many woman inshallah if one is fortunate to receive this blessing inshallah.

[TDWT]

He is saying the colour is the most beautiful one in and of itself, not because it is free from blemishes. That is a separate thing.

I was wondering, about the houri being white, a scholar told me this;

The word hur actually means the one whose eye has large space of whiteness. The statements you may have come across are either mistranslation or a personal interpretation of the scholar that other scholars may disagree with. The divine text talk about the brightness (which often mistranslated as whietness) and clear skin they have. Again, as I mentioned, it is an interpretation not a textual evidence

He told me that the houris being white skinned is just interpretation as he is saying here. Is he right?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I was wondering, about the houri being white, a scholar told me this;

The word hur actually means the one whose eye has large space of whiteness. The statements you may have come across are either mistranslation or a personal interpretation of the scholar that other scholars may disagree with. The divine text talk about the brightness (which often mistranslated as whietness) and clear skin they have. Again, as I mentioned, it is an interpretation not a textual evidence

He told me that the houris being white skinned is just interpretation as he is saying here. Is he right?

The scholar who told it to you, I know him very well. What he is saying is not correct. All the years, the `Ulamaa are unanimous that Bayaadh means "whiteness" and not "brightness". That is taken even from the very word itself. He is giving an interpretation to it. An Usool is that, when it comes to Hadeeth, we always take the Zhaahir (literal) meaning unless there is a supporting evidence to show that in this case, the literal meaning is not intended. The literal meaning of the Ahaadeeth describing the Hoor-ul-`Een point out to them being fair-skinned. He says that it is an interpretation whereas it is not an interpretation.

In any case, this is not something which is worthwhile to debate over, at all. Absolutely no Faa'idah (benefit) will come from it. Islaam instructs people to focus on what concerns them, on what is beneficial, whether it is benefit to one's Aakhirah, which is the primary benefit, or if not, then at least Dunyawi benefit. But something which has no benefit at all, neither in the Dunyaa nor in the Aakhirah, is not something a Muslim spends any time in.

[whosebob]

I was wondering, about the houri being white, a scholar told me this;

The word hur actually means the one whose eye has large space of whiteness. The statements you may have come across are either mistranslation or a personal interpretation of the scholar that other scholars may disagree with. The divine text talk about the brightness (which often mistranslated as whietness) and clear skin they have. Again, as I mentioned, it is an interpretation not a textual evidence

He told me that the houris being white skinned is just interpretation as he is saying here. Is he right?

Use your common sense, ofcause they are of different colours. Different Eye colours and different facial features. But one thing that is certain is that they are all beautiful. It's the noor of their faces that is the key to their beauty Alhamdullilah. Allah did'nt create just white woman on earth, why would he create just white hoor-ain in Jannah firdous?

[TDWT]

The scholar who told it to you, I know him very well. What he is saying is not correct. All the years, the `Ulamaa are unanimous that Bayaadh means "whiteness" and not "brightness". That is taken even from the very word itself. He is giving an interpretation to it. An Usool is that, when it comes to Hadeeth, we always take the Zhaahir (literal) meaning unless there is a supporting evidence to show that in this case, the literal meaning is not intended. The literal meaning of the Ahaadeeth describing the Hoor-ul-`Een point out to them being fair-skinned. He says that it is an interpretation whereas it is not an interpretation.


In any case, this is not something which is worthwhile to debate over, at all. Absolutely no Faa'idah (benefit) will come from it. Islaam instructs people to focus on what concerns them, on what is beneficial, whether it is benefit to one's Aakhirah, which is the primary benefit, or if not, then at least Dunyawi benefit. But something which has no benefit at all, neither in the Dunyaa nor in the Aakhirah, is not something a Muslim spends any time in.

Ok, btw, did you get my question about ruhul al maani?

[TDWT]

Allaah Ta`aalaa says in Soorah al-Waaqi`ah:

وَحُورٌ عِينٌ

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ

{"And (there will be for the Muslimeen, in Jannah) fair females with wide, lovely eyes. Like unto preserved pearls."** [Soorah al-Waaqi`ah, 56:22, 23]

In Tafseer as-Sa`di, Imaam as-Sa`di رحمة الله عليه explains this Aayah, saying:

والحوراء : التي في عينها كحل وملاحة ، وحسن وبهاء ، والعِين : حسان الأعين وضخامها ، وحسن العين في الأنثى من أعظم الأدلة على حسنها وجمالها

"Al-Hawraa (pl. Hoor): A female whose eyes are lined with Kuhl and which are extremely beautiful and bright. Al-`Een refers to eyes which are beautiful and wide.

Beautiful eyes in a female is one of the greatest signs of her beauty."

Explaining the Aayah, "Like unto preserved pearls," he says:

كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ أي : كأنهن اللؤلؤ الأبيض الرطب الصافي البهي ، المستور عن الأعين والريح والشمس ، الذي يكون لونه من أحسن الألوان ، الذي لا عيب فيه بوجه من الوجوه ، فكذلك الحور العين ، لا عيب فيهن بوجه ، بل هن كاملات الأوصاف ، جميلات النعوت . فكل ما تأملته منها لم تجد فيه إلا ما يسر الخاطر ويروق الناظر

"Like unto preserved pearls: Meaning, it is as though they (the Hoors) are pure, white, shining pearls; concealed from the eyes (of men), from the wind and from the rain. Their colour is the most beautiful of colours; there is no fault therein nor any blemish. Such are the Hoor-ul-`Een; there is no fault in them whatsoever. Their qualities are all perfect. They are altogether lovely. Each time you look upon them, you see nothing except that which gladdens the heart and delights the beholder."

Hi Huzaifah, I was just wondering about this ayat:

حُورٌ عِينٌ {22

056:022 Khan	:	And (there will be) Houris (fair females) with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious), I was wondering, when it uses the word 'fair' in this context, does it mean fair as in fair skin or beautiful according to the ulema?

[TDWT]

The scholar who told it to you, I know him very well. What he is saying is not correct. All the years, the `Ulamaa are unanimous that Bayaadh means "whiteness" and not "brightness". That is taken even from the very word itself. He is giving an interpretation to it. An Usool is that, when it comes to Hadeeth, we always take the Zhaahir (literal) meaning unless there is a supporting evidence to show that in this case, the literal meaning is not intended. The literal meaning of the Ahaadeeth describing the Hoor-ul-`Een point out to them being fair-skinned. He says that it is an interpretation whereas it is not an interpretation.

In any case, this is not something which is worthwhile to debate over, at all. Absolutely no Faa'idah (benefit) will come from it. Islaam instructs people to focus on what concerns them, on what is beneficial, whether it is benefit to one's Aakhirah, which is the primary benefit, or if not, then at least Dunyawi benefit. But something which has no benefit at all, neither in the Dunyaa nor in the Aakhirah, is not something a Muslim spends any time in.

I was wondering, could you answer my questions I asked?

[TDWT]

The scholar who told it to you, I know him very well. What he is saying is not correct. All the years, the `Ulamaa are unanimous that Bayaadh means "whiteness" and not "brightness". That is taken even from the very word itself. He is giving an interpretation to it. An Usool is that, when it comes to Hadeeth, we always take the Zhaahir (literal) meaning unless there is a supporting evidence to show that in this case, the literal meaning is not intended. The literal meaning of the Ahaadeeth describing the Hoor-ul-`Een point out to them being fair-skinned. He says that it is an interpretation whereas it is not an interpretation.

In any case, this is not something which is worthwhile to debate over, at all. Absolutely no Faa'idah (benefit) will come from it. Islaam instructs people to focus on what concerns them, on what is beneficial, whether it is benefit to one's Aakhirah, which is the primary benefit, or if not, then at least Dunyawi benefit. But something which has no benefit at all, neither in the Dunyaa nor in the Aakhirah, is not something a Muslim spends any time in.

Do you know the authencity of this hadith?



دخلتُ الجنةَ، فإذا جاريةٍ أدماءَ، لعساءَ، فقلتُ : ما هذهِ يا جبريلُ ؟ فقال : إن الله تعالى عرفَ شهوةَ جعفرِ بنِ أبي طالبٍ للأَدِمَ اللَّعِسَ، فخَلَقَ لهُ هذِهِ
الراوي: أنس بن مالك المحدث: الألباني - المصدر: صحيح النسائي - الصفحة أو الرقم: 3380
خلاصة حكم المحدث: صحيح

دَخَلْتُ الجنةَ ، فإذا جَاريَةٌ أدْماءُ ، لَعْسَاءُ ، فقُلتُ : ما هذه يَا جِبريلُ ؟ فقال : إنَّ اللهَ تعالى عَرَفَ شَهْوةَ جَعفَرِ بنِ أبِي طالِبٍ لِلْأُدْمِ الْلعْسِ ، فَخَلَقَ له هَذِهِ
الراوي: عبدالله بن جعفر بن أبي طالب المحدث: الألباني - المصدر: ضعيف الجامع - الصفحة أو الرقم:2960
خلاصة حكم المحدث: ضعيف

دخلتُ الجنةَ فرأيتُ جاريةً أَدماءَ لَعساءَ، فقلتُ : ما هذه يا جبريلُ ؟ فقال : إن اللهَ تعالى عرف شهوةَ جعفرِ بنِ أبي طالبٍ للأُدْمِ اللُّعْسِ ؛ فَخَلق له هذه
الراوي: عباية الأسدي المحدث: الألباني - المصدر: السلسلة الضعيفة - الصفحة أو الرقم: 3272
خلاصة حكم المحدث: موضوع

since you said al-albani is not to be trusted, what have others said on it?