Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

[Zamtsa]

Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

[Abz2000]

Abu bakr (ra) used to let them off a lot of the time, but was also very harsh when required, his ability to curse was very colorful and his passion for the truth was super-strong, they were qualities that equipped him in his task....

[Abz2000]

Abu bakr was a confirmer of the truth and close companion and confidant of the prophet pbuh.
there is no prophet called "al 'iisa" (the 'iisa)

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I think the brother is referring to Nabi `Eesaa عليه السلام.

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@Zamtsa : Hadhrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه was a Sahaabi (companion of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم).

Nabi `Eesaa عليه السلام was a Rasool (Messenger) and Nabi (Prophet) of Allaah.

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[aaj]

I think there's a confusion here.

Abu Bakr (r.a) was prophet Muhammad's best friend, strongest support or, his father in law, and first of Caliph after the demise of the Prophet.

Ali r.a. was the cousin of the Prophet(s.a.w), his son in law and the 4th Caliph of Islam.

Isa aka Jesus (a.s.) was the last prophet sent to the Jews by God.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Note: Whenever a person says or writes the name of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, he must make sure to add the Durood, In Shaa Allaah. If speaking, say it out. If writing, write it out (in full. No abbreviations.)

[Abz2000]

Note: Whenever a person says or writes the name of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, he must make sure to add the Durood, In Shaa Allaah. If speaking, say it out. If writing, write it out (in full. No abbreviations.)

Source please, qul haatoo burhaanakum in kuntum suaadiqeen
i accept the fact that "pbuh" specifically means: peace be upon him in english, though the arabic translates as something like "prayers of Allah be upon him and eternal peace" , however, the latter becomes impractical when handwriting or sending short messages.
Bear in mind that B] صلى الله عليه وسلم[/B] is itself an abbreviation which just about passes the literal response to the verse,
and that the prophet
صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ، كَمَا صَلَّيْتَ عَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِيدٌ، اللَّهُمَّ بَارِكْ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ، كَمَا بَارَكْتَ عَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِي
gave a much longer version when he

صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ، كَمَا صَلَّيْتَ عَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِيدٌ، اللَّهُمَّ بَارِكْ عَلَى مُحَمَّدٍ وَآلِ مُحَمَّدٍ، كَمَا بَارَكْتَ عَلَى آلِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، إِنَّكَ حَمِيدٌ مَجِي
, was asked about the aayah.

If you want to be accurate to the letter, you would have to return to the Qur-aanic verse which states:


إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

{56*033:056*Khan:
Allah sends His Salat (Graces, Honours, Blessings, Mercy, etc.) on the Prophet (Muhammad SAW) and also His angels too (ask Allah to bless and forgive him). O you who believe! Send your Salat on (ask Allah to bless) him (Muhammad SAW), and (you should) greet (salute) him with the Islamic way of greeting (salutation i.e. As-Salamu 'Alaikum).

033:056*Maulana:
Surely Allah and His angels bless the Prophet. O you who believe, call for blessings on him and salute him with a (becoming) salutation.

033:056*Pickthal:
Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation.

033:056*Rashad:
GOD and His angels help and support the prophet. O you who believe, you shall help and support him, and regard him as he should be regarded.

033:056*Sarwar:
God showers His blessings upon the Prophet and the angels seek forgiveness for him. Believers, pray for the Prophet and greet him with, "Peace be with you."

033:056*Shakir:
Surely Allah and His angels bless the Prophet; O you who believe! call for (Divine) blessings on him and salute him with a (becoming) salutation.

033:056*Sherali:
ALLAH sends down HIS blessings on the Prophet and HIS angels pray for him. O ye who believe, you too should invoke HIS blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace.

033:056*Yusufali:
Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.

And then look up the tafseer if available in hadeeth first:

Messenger*» Hadith
كتاب الصلاة على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم15

The Book of Supplicating Allah to Exalt the Mention of Allah's Messenger

Abu Muhammad Ka'b bin 'Ujrah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:The Prophet (ﷺ) came to us and we asked him, "O Messenger of Allah, we already know how to greet you (i.e., say As-salamu 'alaikum), but how should we supplicate for you?"

He (ﷺ) said, "Say: 'Allahumma salli 'ala Muhammadin, wa 'ala 'ali Muhammadin, kama sallaita 'ala 'ali Ibrahima, innaka Hamidum Majid. Allahumma barik 'ala Muhammadin, wa 'ala 'ali Muhammadin, kama barakta 'ala 'ali Ibrahima, innaka Hamidum Majid*

[O Allah, exalt the mention of Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as you exalted the family of Ibrahim. You are Praised and Glorious. O Allah, bless Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as You blessed the family of Ibrahim. You are Praised and Glorious."'

[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

وعن أبي محمد كعب بن عجرة رضي الله عنه قال‏:‏ خرج علينا النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فقلنا‏:‏ يا رسول الله، قد علمنا كيف نسلم عليك، فكيف نصلي عليك‏؟‏ قال‏:‏ ‏*"‏قولوا‏:‏ اللهم صلِ على محمد، وعلى آل محمد، كما صليت على آل إبراهيم، إنك حميد مجيد‏.‏ اللهم بارك على محمد وعلى آل محمد، كما باركت على آل إبراهيم، إنك حميد مجيد‏"‏ ‏(‏‏(‏متفق عليه‏)‏‏)

‏‏.‏Sunnah.com reference*:*Book 15, Hadith 9

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See also:

https://islamqa.info/en/219312


Then we'd have to understand the practicality of sending a twitter measage....

....isn't it better to tell people to try and make it lengthy where practical and possible whilst seeking to please and obey Allah, and not legislate something totally letter based that's far from the spirit?

If you're concerned about corrupt mischiefmakers trying to pervert the abbreviation, know that such mischiefmakers have even called him "prophet muhammad" and then claimed that he wasn't a prophet, and Allah's curse is upon such mischiefmakers unless and until they repent and turn to Allah and accept all of Allah's messengers, we don't need to go all OCD, we need to obey Allah as Allah wants us to obey Him and seek Allah's pleasure in our deeds and intentions.

لاَّ يُؤَاخِذُكُمُ اللّهُ بِاللَّغْوِ فِيَ أَيْمَانِكُمْ وَلَكِن يُؤَاخِذُكُم بِمَا كَسَبَتْ قُلُوبُكُمْ وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٌ

{225*002:225*Khan:

Allah will not call you to account for that which is unintentional in your oaths, but He will call you to account for that which your hearts have earned. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most- Forbearing.

i.e. Allah will see how strong our intention is to obey or disobey Him and reward us accordingly.

And Allah knows best.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

When Sahaabah-e-Kiraam took the name of Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم, they said just that:

صلى الله عليه وسلم

Sallallaahu `Alayhi wa Sallam.

They did not recite the full Durood-e-Ibraaheem which you have mentioned.

It is the same for writing as it is for speaking it.

[Abz2000]

We should be careful when legislating brother, especially when laying shackles and burdens which can turn into snares.

*On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say:What I have forbidden for you, avoid. What I have ordered you [to do], do as much of it as you can. For verily, it was only their excessive questioning and disagreeing with their Prophets that destroyed [the nations] who were before you.
[Al-Bukhari & Muslim]

There is another narration for this hadith that gives a deeper understanding of its meaning:

The Messenger of Allah (sas) addressed us and said,

O people! Hajj has been made obligatory upon you, so perform the Hajj. A man asked, "Is that every year, O Messenger of Allah?" The Prophet (sas) remained silent while the man repeated his question three times.
Then he said, "If I had said 'yes' then it would have become obligatory upon you [i.e. every year], and you would not have been able to do so. Do not ask me about that which I have left unspecified, for verily the nations before you were destroyed by their excessive questioning and argumentation with their Prophets. If I order you with something then do as much of it as you are able, and if I forbid you from something then keep away from it."

In both of these narrations, the prophet (sas) commands us to avoid what he has forbidden and to follow what he has ordered us to do according to the best of our ability.The Prophet (sas) also asks us to follow his guidance without asking too many questions, and to pay attention to the types of questions we ask.

Stay Away from What is Prohibited

"What I have forbidden for you, avoid.” We have to follow this command all the time, and in all situations. This order has to be followed except under dire circumstances, such as when one is starving and there is no food available except for some meat that was not properly slaughtered. In conditions other than that of necessity, however, all Muslims have to avoid what is forbidden.

Obligations are According to Ability

"What I have ordered you to do, do as much of it as you can" is an important principle of Islam. The Prophet (sas) is indicating that we won’t be able to do all what is required, but we have to do as much of it as we can. Based upon this principle are countless other rulings. Prayer, for example: the Prophet (sas) said, 'Pray standing; if you are not able to; pray sitting, if you are not able to; pray (while lying) on your side."

The scholars have differed over the meaning of a command by the Prophet to perform an action - does it imply repetition? That is, if we are ordered to do something then does that automatically imply that we must do it repeatedly? Or does it mean that doing it once is sufficient unless otherwise specified?

For example, we are commanded with Hajj once in a lifetime, but we are also commanded with Salah five times every day. Most of the scholars decided that a command does not automatically imply repetition, while others said that we should rule on whether it implies repetition or not without further evidence.

http://40hadithnawawi.com/index.php/...diths/hadith-9


When one is aware of the impracticality of application and it is not a case of clear cut haraam, it is usually better to recommend than to rule, especially by saying "must" lest a person falls short.
The Prophet pbuh was very careful of such issues.

I was shocked when i heard someone say that not keeping a beard is a major sin and thereby putting the congregation to trial despite it being a recommendation based on Muslim identity, just as prayer with shoes, khifaaf and sandals is.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Someone posted this on a Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/islam...1619682558982/

Relates to the issue at hand.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi mentions in his "Fazaail-e-Amaal" that one person was in the habit of using abbreviations instead of the full Durood, and as a result of that, Allaah Ta`aalaa caused his hand to become paralysed.

Allaahu A`lam regarding the authenticity of the story.

[Abz2000]

Imaam An-Nawawi appears from his teachings and sayings to have been a very wise man who was familiar with the concepts of legislation. He was careful to say "mustahab" (recomended/liked/loved/preferable) rather than "must" (obligatory) which is "fardh" in Arabic.
The person who quoted him appears to have taken it out of context.
The difference is easy to perceive when one is/or has been in or put through a position of authority and the relevance becomes essential.

When i say "i.e" i mean "in essence"

After reading this article, you won’t ever mix up i.e. vs. e.g. again.

I.e. Meaning, E.g. Meaning

To start off, what does i.e. mean and what does e.g. mean?They are both abbreviations for Latin terms, i.e. meaning*id est*and e.g. meaning*exempli gratia. The English translations are “that is” and “for example.”There are a few good ways to keep their meanings separate from one another. One is to remember that, since i.e. begins with an “I,” it means “InEssence” or “In other words.” These two aren’t exact translations, but they can communicate the meaning to you so you don’t mix up the abbreviations in your writing.Remembering e.g. can be done by thinking of it as meaning “Example*Given” or by remembering that it means “Example,” which also starts with an “E.”

[aaj]

Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi mentions in his "Fazaail-e-Amaal" that one person was in the habit of using abbreviations instead of the full Durood, and as a result of that, Allaah Ta`aalaa caused his hand to become paralysed.

Allaahu A`lam regarding the authenticity of the story.

I thought you were a student of knowledge but I am doubtful of that now, a student of knowledge should know the "Fazaail-e-Amaal" is a deviant book full of shirks. Unless this one is different than the one the tablighi people use. Regardless, Quran and Sunnah is our source of knowledge.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I thought you were a student of knowledge but I am doubtful of that now, a student of knowledge should know the "Fazaail-e-Amaal" is a deviant book full of shirks. Unless this one is different than the one the tablighi people use. Regardless, Quran and Sunnah is our source of knowledge.

Brother, I know exactly what is written in Fazaail-e-Amaal (I've read it cover to cover many times) and of all the refutations which have been written against it, as well as the problem the Ahl-e-Hadeeth have with it that majority of the Ahaadeeth quoted therein are Dha`eef. I wasn't addressing those issues. I quoted a story he narrates (which has nothing to do with Shirk or any Hadeeth) - perhaps he knew this person himself - and mentioned it here as a reminder and something people can take lesson from.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Let me ask you a question:

Do you accept Imaam ibn al-Qayyim رحمة الله عليه? What do you think of him and his writings? Is he trustworthy? Reliable?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Also, as a side note: If you've kept up to date with the Fazaa'il-e-Amaal issue, you would know that it has been revised many times (since the refutations were written), and a lot of those stories have been removed and no longer exist in the new prints.

[Abz2000]

Brother aaj, one can get knowledge from anywhere, even from observing a baby, it is a case of processing it correctly and comparing it with what is known to be solid and or stable.
I get knowledge from schwarznegger movies too, and also when i am compelled to sit at a place that has secular mainstream news, i have to filter it in a way that i recognize what they are trying to project to the psyche of the masses.
I too have read some wierd things in the book fazail e a'maal, and also some good information.

[aaj]

Brother,

That book is not reliable. The fact it had so much shirk and biddah in it to begin with and the so called "scholars" and "alims" and the "imams" in asia use that more so than the Quran and hadith is troublesome. It doesn't matter how many times it was revised. They should be referencing the Quran and Sunnah, not that book as their one and only source. Also, why would you share unverified stories? what benefit is in that? If we want people to take lessons from stories outside of the Quran and Sunnah then why not make one up yourself?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

A Hadeeth to be kept in mind:

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ الْكَلِمَةُ الْحِكْمَةُ ضَالَّةُ الْمُؤْمِنِ فَحَيْثُ وَجَدَهَا فَهُوَ أَحَقُّ بِهَا

2687 سنن الترمذي كتاب العلم باب ما جاء في فضل الفقه على العبادة

المحدث السيوطي خلاصة حكم المحدث حسن

Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "The wise saying (wisdom) is the lost property of a Mu'min. Wherever he finds it, he is most rightful (entitled) to it." [Narrated in Sunan at-Tirmidhee.]

So we accept whatever stories are in conformity with Qur'aan and Sunnah and reject whatever is not in conformity.

Remember that Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, "Narrate from Bani Israa'eel wa laa haraj" (i.e. as long as there is nothing in the story which contradicts Islaam).

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Sister aaj

Sister aaj? I thought it was brother aaj?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Please answer the question:

"Do you accept Imaam ibn al-Qayyim رحمة الله عليه? Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah's most famous student? What do you think of him and his writings? Is he trustworthy? Reliable?"

[Abz2000]

Brother,

That book is not reliable. The fact it had so much shirk and biddah in it to begin with and the so called "scholars" and "alims" and the "imams" in asia use that more so than the Quran and hadith is troublesome. It doesn't matter how many times it was revised. They should be referencing the Quran and Sunnah, not that book as their one and only source. Also, why would you share unverified stories? what benefit is in that? If we want people to take lessons from stories outside of the Quran and Sunnah then why not make one up yourself?

My dear brother, i am fully aware of how the book fazail e a'mal is religiously quoted and often get into worked up debates with people over it when they quote something wierd, i too notice the rigidity of certain people on it, but we must be aware that if they quote something good from it, r even from a frederick forsyth book, we should file it as positive, after all, it is human understanding and if we discarded all knowledge besides quran and hadith, we'd be in a bit of a rut.

The fact that the brother quoted it and we were able to do an autopsy on the quote increased the understanding of the brother and any other observer.
We must be aware that our aim is to learn and teach, and it is easier to learn and teach when you are able to understand and relate with the people you are conversing with.

Take for instance zakir naik, the brother even reads pagan books and convinces pagans of the truth with it.

As long as humans write, they will make mistakes, but if we threw it all away, we'd lose the observations of many thinkers.

The Quran is indeed the most stable and truthful book, and the ahadith compilations are indeed the next best, but we still sometimes find things falsely attributed to the Prophet pbuh in the very sahihain.
then there are still things like ibn ishaaq etc and ibn kathir who have narrated the weakest of chains and even ahl al kitaab, however the more knowledgable scholars don't gun them for it and appreciate the fact that they preserved the weak stuff for us to sift today.

There are thousands of ahadith which never made it anywhere near the sahihs and neither to the weaker books, yet, some of them are turning out to be correct,
it's a case of giving priority to what's more stable though and i am in no way meaning to be patronizing towards you, i recognise your indigation and zeal in upholding the truth.


52.*Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before you, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
53.*That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth):
54.*And that those on whom knowledge has been bestowed may learn that the (Qur'an) is the Truth from thy Lord, and that they may believe therein, and their hearts may be made humbly (open) to it: for verily Allah is the Guide of those who believe, to the Straight Way.
55.*Those who reject Faith will not cease to be in doubt concerning (Revelation) until the Hour (of Judgment) comes suddenly upon them, or there comes to them the Penalty of a Day of Disaster.
56.*On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah. He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.
57.*And for those who reject Faith and deny our Signs, there will be a humiliating Punishment.

From Quran Surah Al Hajj Chapter 52.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

My dear sister, i am fully aware of how the book fazail e a'mal is religiously quoted and often get into worked up debates with people over it when they quote something wierd, i too notice the rigidity of certain people on it, but we must be aware that if they quote something good from it, r even from a frederick forsyth book, we should file it as positive, after all, it is human understanding and if we discarded all knowledge besides quran and hadith, we'd be in a bit of a rut.

The fact that the brother quoted it and we were able to do an autopsy on the quote increased the understanding of the brother and any other observer.
We must be aware that our aim is to learn and teach, and it is easier to learn and teach when you are able to understand and relate with the people you are conversing with.

Take for instance zakir naik, the brother even reads pagan books and convinces pagans of the truth with it.

As long as humans write, they will make mistakes, but if we threw it all away, we'd lose the observations of many thinkers.

The Quran is indeed the most stable and truthful book, and the ahadith compilations are indeed the next best, but we still sometimes find things falsely attributed to the Prophet pbuh in the very sahihain.
then there are still things like ibn ishaaq etc and ibn kathir who have narrated the weakest of chains and even ahl al kitaab, however the more knowledgable scholars don't gun them for it and appreciate the fact that they preserved the weak stuff for us to sift today.

There are thousands of ahadith which never made it anywhere near the sahihs and neither to the weaker books, yet, some of them are turning out to be correct,
it's a case of giving priority to what's more stable though and i am in no way meaning to be patronizing towards you, i recognise your indigation and zeal in upholding the truth.

So aaj is sister or brother?

[Abz2000]

So aaj is sister or brother?

Lol i'm editing it :)
We had a sister on here who was called "arj" and i got used to it.
jzk

[Abz2000]

Please answer the question:

"Do you accept Imaam ibn al-Qayyim رحمة الله عليه? Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah's most famous student? What do you think of him and his writings? Is he trustworthy? Reliable?"

I am uncertain as to whom you are asking the question, but will tell you what i think in case the question is directed at me,

I believe that Ibn Al Qayyim (may Allah be pleased with him) was a knowledgeable scholar, that he was sincere, that he was gifted with intelligence, and that he did his best to convey what he had learned of the truth to the best of his ability.
do i believe he was free from imperfection? No, not even the Prophets are free from perfection, total perfection is an attribute exclusive to Allah, the most high. But the son of Adam ibn al Qayyim? I believe that he deserves to be acknowledged as being amongst the great intellectuals of his age and of many ages and pray for his elevation in paradise, which is where i hope he belongs.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

The question was for brother aaj, who has mistakenly been called sister twice in one thread...That's not good.

[Abz2000]

The question was for brother aaj, who has mistakenly been called sister twice in one thread...That's not good.

What's not good?

[Zamtsa]

Who's Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi . Is That Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

[naveedsubhani]

He was the first Caliph of Islam and no one greatest companion of Holly Prophet (PBUH)

[Zamtsa]

Who's 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , Is That Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[Abz2000]

SubhaanAllah

[Abz2000]

Allaahu akbar

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

What's not good?

Mistakenly being called sister twice in a single thread.

[Abz2000]

Mistakenly being called sister twice in a single thread.

And how should penitence be made?

[Serinity]

Source please, qul haatoo burhaanakum in kuntum suaadiqeen
i accept the fact that "pbuh" specifically means: peace be upon him in english, though the arabic translates as something like "prayers of Allah be upon him and eternal peace" , however, the latter becomes impractical when handwriting or sending short messages.

Isn't saying "prayers of Allah be upon........" Shirk? Cuz Allah never needs praying.

[Zamtsa]

Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Who's Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi . Is That Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Who's 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , Is That Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[aaj]

I'll address all the points/issues in this one post.

We as Muslims believe in the revelations of previous scriptures. The prophet(saw) said that they have been changed by men over time and whatever is in agreement with the Quran is intact and whatever contradicts Quran/Islam is where they went astray.

so does that mean we should read it because it has some good in it as well?

There were some shahabas would read the Bible as well and the Prophet (saw) was all red in face (not happy). He said what need is there for you to read that when you have been given the Quran. So no, one should not go reading books with falsehood and lies in it when there is something pure and better available.

But scholars says you can? Yes, they do BUT only to those who already know their deen and read the scriptures for dawaah purposes. These are peopl are educated in their deen and are able to read other books for cross examination for the purpose of discussions. This not a general permission for laymen or your average Muslim, who doesn't even know much about his own deen.

Faizal Amal is no different. In it may be some good but it has lot of shirk and deviations and lies. And yet those who use it use it like its their quran, they don't touch any other book (Quran or hadith) whether they are sitting their study circles or going on 40 day trips, abandoning their families.

Rather then trying to justify this deviation and being defensive, we should look to what is authentic or not and leave that which can lead to going astray.


Here's some info on that book if you are serious about finding out the truth.

https://archive.org/details/Tablighi...zailAmaalpart1

Please answer the question:

"Do you accept Imaam ibn al-Qayyim رحمة الله عليه? Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah's most famous student? What do you think of him and his writings? Is he trustworthy? Reliable?"

I do not know enough about him to say one way or another. I am open to taking information from one who uses Quran and Sunnah, the rest I have no interest in.

[Zamtsa]

Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Who's Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi . Is That Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Who's 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , Is That Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?


Assalaam 'alaikum .

[aaj]

Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Who's Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi . Is That Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Who's 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , Is That Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Whose Abu Bakr r.a. ? that has been answered already.

Who is Dulkarnain ? He was a great king and a Muslim Allah gave lot of power. He was the one who locked the yajooj and majooj (gog and magog) people between to hills/mountains.

Whose Ali r.a.? that too has been answered previously.


are you serious about these questions?

[Zamtsa]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[Abz2000]

Isn't saying "prayers of Allah be upon........" Shirk? Cuz Allah never needs praying.

Inna Allaaha wa malaa-ikatahu yusualloona 'ala an-nabiy, yaa ayyuha alladheena aamanoo sualloo 'alayhi wa sallimoo tasleema.

And

Sualla Allaahu 'alayhi wa sallam

Both contain the word prayer first then the term continued peace.

The definitions for the word sualaah has taken on a more textured meaning in Islam.
it used to be understood as prayer as in dua (you know - with the clasping of the hands) before the Prophet pbuh was comissioned, however, afterwards, Allah clarified deeper meanings.

There are narrations which say that the first thing Adam pbuh did after having life breathed into him was sneeze, and that the first thing he said was "Alhamdu li Allah" (praise be to God), and that Allah replied: "yarhamuka Allah" (may Allah have mercy upon you).

You will notice often that Allah the Most High often speaks of Himself in the Quran in third person, such as "qaatala hum Allah" may Allah fight/kill them, or in the first chapter of the Quran, Alhamdu li Allaahi Rabb al 'aalameen, or "wa idh qaala Rabbuka" (when your Master said).

It's difficult to understand unless one realises that Allah is blending His statement which is fact, with what we need to say, and also Allah the Most High is often refraining from descending to conversing on a person to person level, though He does it when He wills. He normally chooses direct speech with the Prophet pbuh who will listen and obey, sometimes to the believers, and only to the disbelievers in warning speech. Allah retains His high status and dignity.
That's some mystery and wisdom to think about, and the fact that Allah sends His own prayers from one account of His to Muhammad pbuh's account is amazing, it indicates that He has set laws for Himself, i won't delve further into unknown territory because it's risky, but just so we know, there is a lot of wisdom behind it.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I'll address all the points/issues in this one post.

We as Muslims believe in the revelations of previous scriptures. The prophet(saw) said that they have been changed by men over time and whatever is in agreement with the Quran is intact and whatever contradicts Quran/Islam is where they went astray.

so does that mean we should read it because it has some good in it as well?

There were some shahabas would read the Bible as well and the Prophet (saw) was all red in face (not happy). He said what need is there for you to read that when you have been given the Quran. So no, one should not go reading books with falsehood and lies in it when there is something pure and better available.

But scholars says you can? Yes, they do BUT only to those who already know their deen and read the scriptures for dawaah purposes. These are peopl are educated in their deen and are able to read other books for cross examination for the purpose of discussions. This not a general permission for laymen or your average Muslim, who doesn't even know much about his own deen.

Faizal Amal is no different. In it may be some good but it has lot of shirk and deviations and lies. And yet those who use it use it like its their quran, they don't touch any other book (Quran or hadith) whether they are sitting their study circles or going on 40 day trips, abandoning their families.

Rather then trying to justify this deviation and being defensive, we should look to what is authentic or not and leave that which can lead to going astray.


Here's some info on that book if you are serious about finding out the truth.

https://archive.org/details/Tablighi...zailAmaalpart1











I do not know enough about him to say one way or another. I am open to taking information from one who uses Quran and Sunnah, the rest I have no interest in.

As I mentioned, brother: I've read almost every refutation there is against Fazaa'il-e-Amaal. I did not quote it as Daleel. I quoted a story Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi mentioned. In that story, there is nothing which opposes Qur'aan and Sunnah.

Did Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم allow Muslims to narrate from Bani Israa'eel or did he not? We know that he did. Now, if you can narrate from Kuffaar Jews (Bani Israa'eel), why can you not narrate a story from other places when that story does not contradict anything of Islaam?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Why did Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn `Abbaas رضي الله عنه - "Ra'ees-ul-Mufassireen" - quote Israeli Waaqi`aat (stories)?

Why does Imaam ibn Katheer repeat those stories in his Tafseer?

So because Tafseer ibn Katheer contains such stories, will you reject Tafseer ibn Katheer as well as a "book of falsehood, lies and fairytales"?

[Abz2000]

Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi mentions in his "Fazaail-e-Amaal" that one person was in the habit of using abbreviations instead of the full Durood, and as a result of that, Allaah Ta`aalaa caused his hand to become paralysed.

Allaahu A`lam regarding the authenticity of the story.

You know as well as i do that Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi (God knows who he was) had no right to make such a correlation. Sounds like he liked to focus more on rituals than on facts.

Whether you say pbuh or the full durood as found in hadith, or what is between, a whole load of other data (maybe miles of pages) will be transmitted to your book of records depending on intention.

The best advice to give is recommend people to send prayers and continual peace to the prophet pbuh and hold him in such regard.
And that this is done by stating the durood upon first mention and then at least once in a while after that.
:saws:
Are you aware that the sahaabah would often say the name of the Prophet pbuh without saying :saws: ?
I swear to you by the one who sent Muhammad with the truth that i have read various narrations.

And when you recite the shahaadah, Allah has more right to be glorified at the end, although the statement itself is a testimony of the prophet's truth and honouring, and the exaltion of Allah in the mind.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi (brief bio from different websites):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamm...riya_Kandhlawi

http://www.madania.org/index.php?opt...ew=artist&id=8

http://www.central-mosque.com/index....dhlawi-ra.html

[aaj]

As I mentioned, brother: I've read almost every refutation there is against Fazaa'il-e-Amaal. I did not quote it as Daleel. I quoted a story Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi mentioned. In that story, there is nothing which opposes Qur'aan and Sunnah.

Did Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم allow Muslims to narrate from Bani Israa'eel or did he not? We know that he did. Now, if you can narrate from Kuffaar Jews (Bani Israa'eel), why can you not narrate a story from other places when that story does not contradict anything of Islaam?

Brother,

you are still trying to justify it and even defend this author by posting his bio links.

You are not a shahabi or the prophet that you are saying they did it so why can't I. Whether that story is true is not the main point. First of all, we don't even know if it's true. But more importantly, you are referencing a book full of lies and shirk. If others had done it then it's different, but you are regarded as a student of knowledge and looked up to and respected on this forum, even refereed to as sheikh. You have to be more aware of the impact of your actions and the impression you give others in regards to what you say and what you quote. For you to quote such a book gives the impression to those who do not know that this book is reliable since you are quoting from it.

You can quote even the satan worshiper's book and say they have this story in it. Everybody knows that is not our book or source of knowledge. But this book is regarded by many among SE Asians as the only source of knowledge. And if you are quoting from it then I'm weary of taking knowledge from you because I honestly don't know what is authentic and what is not since your information is not coming from authentic sources. Others who are aware of the deviation of that book will feel the same, the ones who will listen will be either those who know not or are believer of that book.

You are welcome to do as you wish, I"m not here to debate with you on it. I just wanted to make clear on here about the authenticity of that book since majority of the members here are of that background.

[Abz2000]

Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi (brief bio from different websites):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamm...riya_Kandhlawi

http://www.madania.org/index.php?opt...ew=artist&id=8

http://www.central-mosque.com/index....dhlawi-ra.html

Wow, he even had his own khaleefah......

Anyways, not to disrespect his sincere efforts, we know better now, and the companions knew even better,

I remember the story of the tabi'i who told the companion of the messenger of Allah (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that if the messenger (pbuh) had lived in their (the taabi'in's) time, that they would have carried him arround on their shoulders, the companion told him what time of day it was.

They were the ones who believed in the messenger of Allah (swt) when their families called him a deceiver, a liar, a sorcerer, and a madman, they were the ones who fought their fathers and their brothers for the sake of truth when society was degenerated to humiliation, they were the ones who saw him as a man, not as of the most noble social status or as the most refined orator (by the measure of the tribal leaders) amongst the tribes, but as the man chosen from amongst them by Allah's wisdom. They were the ones who submitted to Allah the most high and obeyed Allah (swt) and His messenger :saws: because they saw the truth.
the tabi'is in comparison only got what they heard, and it was because of what they had heard from the companions (may Allah the most high be pleased with them) that they thought so well of him and that they would have done differently.

Anyways, i often cringe when i hear people speaking to a conplete english speaking audience and say :saws: in arabic with an indian accent, not even getting the "wa" right but saying "va" whereas it would reach the depths of the hearts of the audience if they had said with firm conviction "may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him" during oration.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Brother,

you are still trying to justify it and even defend this author by posting his bio links.

You are not a shahabi or the prophet that you are saying they did it so why can't I. Whether that story is true is not the main point. First of all, we don't even know if it's true. But more importantly, you are referencing a book full of lies and shirk. If others had done it then it's different, but you are regarded as a student of knowledge and looked up to and respected on this forum, even refereed to as sheikh. You have to be more aware of the impact of your actions and the impression you give others in regards to what you say and what you quote. For you to quote such a book gives the impression to those who do not know that this book is reliable since you are quoting from it.

You can quote even the satan worshiper's book and say they have this story in it. Everybody knows that is not our book or source of knowledge. But this book is regarded by many among SE Asians as the only source of knowledge. And if you are quoting from it then I'm weary of taking knowledge from you because I honestly don't know what is authentic and what is not since your information is not coming from authentic sources. Others who are aware of the deviation of that book will feel the same, the ones who will listen will be either those who know not or are believer of that book.

You are welcome to do as you wish, I"m not here to debate with you on it. I just wanted to make clear on here about the authenticity of that book since majority of the members here are of that background.

The bio links weren't posted in defense; they were posted as information for Abz who inquired as to who Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhlawi is.

By the way: You are from the Ahl-e-Hadees movement, am I correct?

[Abz2000]

I remember one tableegi guy asking me why i was reading the quran in english when i wasn't a scholar, i asked him what i should read, he told me ...........

........
........... fazail e a'mal :)
.....and tabeelgi nisaab :) :)

I never ever did manage to finish forty days there......

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I remember one tableegi guy asking me why i was reading the quran in english when i wasn't a scholar, i asked him what i should read, he told me ...........

........
........... fazail e a'mal :)
.....and tabeelgi nisaab :) :)

I never ever did manage to finish forty days there......

You should ask him: "Why are you giving Fatwas when you aren't a scholar?" He's giving a Fatwaa right there, saying you're not allowed to read the English translation.

In fact, it's such a ridiculous statement to make, someone should laugh at it...

A scholar doesn't read the English translation of the Qur'aan. They only read the Arabic. They have no need of the English. The Qur'aan wasn't translated into English for the sake of the scholars; it was translated for the laypeople...

Also, that is the extremist Tableeghi mindset which is very dangerous; it implies that every aspect of Deen is trivial and unimportant, and only the Tableegh Jamaat (which was started by Maulana Ilyaas Kandhlawi) is the only field of Deen and that the Tableegh Jamaat are the only real Muslims.

Many times, the Tableegh Jamaat goes around to `Ulamaa who spend their days and nights teaching students, running Madaaris and Daarul Ulooms, writing and translating Kitaabs and publishing Islaamic literature, etc., and ask these `Ulamaa to come out in Tableegh Jamaat. What does that imply? It implies that the field of Ta`leem and Ta`allum - as well as all the other fields of Deen - is insignificant.

They have gone into Ghuluww (extremism). They need to remedy it, In Shaa Allaah.

[Abz2000]

You should ask him: "Why are you giving Fatwas when you aren't a scholar?" He's giving a Fatwaa right there, saying you're not allowed to read the English translation.

In fact, it's such a ridiculous statement to make, someone should laugh at it...

A scholar doesn't read the English translation of the Qur'aan. They only read the Arabic. They have no need of the English. The Qur'aan wasn't translated into English for the sake of the scholars; it was translated for the laypeople...

Also, that is the extremist Tableeghi mindset which is very dangerous; it implies that every aspect of Deen is trivial and unimportant, and only the Tableegh Jamaat (which was started by Maulana Ilyaas Kandhlawi) is the only field of Deen and that the Tableegh Jamaat are the only real Muslims.

Many times, the Tableegh Jamaat goes around to `Ulamaa who spend their days and nights teaching students, running Madaaris and Daarul Ulooms, writing and translating Kitaabs and publishing Islaamic literature, etc., and ask these `Ulamaa to come out in Tableegh Jamaat. What does that imply? It implies that the field of Ta`leem and Ta`allum - as well as all the other fields of Deen - is insignificant.

They have gone into Ghuluww (extremism). They need to remedy it, In Shaa Allaah.

Brother, everyone gives fatwas, i give fatwas to my children, the sahaabah would give fatwas despite never ever having read a book, sometimes they were wrong, one mujaahid sahabah brother with a head injury died because another sahaabah told him he had to make ghusl, the prophet pbuh told them they should have asked if they didn't know.....

...some doctors give wrong fatwas and end up on manslaughter charges, some laymen find iodine or orange peel and apply it.

The main requirement is that one knows what they're talking about and that the person seeking advice tries to get it from the most knowledgeable and truthful source available.

Some people go to free doctors, others go to million dollar internationally renouned doctors, it's a case of practicality, truth, and sincerity.

Study the lives of the companions if you think i am making it up.

I even give myself fatwas when i'm walking down the street and there's no mufti from al aqsa by my side to tell me the right choice.

May Allah guide us.

In islam there is no human rabbi (master), we all do our best.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

During the lifetime of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, not all of the Sahaabah gave Fataawaa; only some did. They were:

1. Hadhrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه.
2. Hadhrat `Uthmaan رضي الله عنه.
3. Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه.
4. Hadhrat `Abdur Rahmaan ibn `Awf رضي الله عنه.
5. Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn Mas`ood رضي الله عنه.
6. Hadhrat Ubayy ibn Ka`b رضي الله عنه.
7. Hadhrat Mu`aadh ibn Jabal رضي الله عنه.
8. Hadhrat `Ammaar ibn Yaasir رضي الله عنه.
9. Hadhrat Huzaifah ibn al-Yamaan رضي الله عنه.
10. Hadhrat Zaid ibn Thaabit رضي الله عنه.
11. Hadhrat Abu-d Dardaa رضي الله عنه.
12. Hadhrat Abu Moosaa al-Ash`ari رضي الله عنه.
13. Hadhrat Salmaan al-Faarisi رضي الله عنه.

124,000 Sahaabah. Only 13 gave Fatwaa whilst Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم was in this Dunyaa.

When Hadhrat Mu`aadh ibn Jabal, Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn Mas`ood, Hadhrat Abu Moosaa al-Ash`ari, رضي الله عنهم were alive, the Taabi`een used to ask them the Fatwaa on different things. Why is that? They were Taabi`een. Why didn't they give their own Fatwaa?

Because you have to look, first of all, at what does Fatwaa actually mean?

This is the definition from al-Majallah al-Buhooth al-Islaamiyyah:

الإفتاء مصدر الفعل (أفتى)، والفتيا مأخوذة من فتى وفتو، وهي بمعنى (الإبانة)، يقال: أفتاه في الأمر إذا أبانه له.

وأصل (الفتوى) من الفتى وهو الشاب القوي الحدث فكأنه - أي المفتي - يقوي ما أبهم ببيانه وقوته العلمية

.

وقد وردت هذه الكلمة بتصاريف مختلفة في كتاب الله، تدور

"Al-Iftaa is the root noun of the verb أفتى (Aftaa), and الفتيا (al-Fatyaa) is derived from فتى وفتو, and it gives the meaning of al-Ibaanah (clarification). It is said, "He gave him a Fatwaa in a matter," when he had clarified it (for the person). The origin of the word "Fatwaa" is from الفتى (al-Fataa), and al-Fataa means a strong young man. So it is as though the Mufti (i.e. the one giving Fatwaa) strengthens that which is unclear through his explanation and strength in `Ilm. This word appears in various forms in the Kitaab of Allaah."

An example is given:

ويستفتونك قل الله يفتيكم في الكلالة

"They ask you for a Fatwaa: Say: Allaah will give you the Fatwaa regarding al-Kalaalah." (Meaning, Allaah Ta`aalaa will clarify for you the matter of al-Kalaalah.)

So the linguistic meaning of al-Iftaa (i.e. giving Fatwaa) is at-Tawdheeh (to clarify).

In terms of Sharee`ah, Iftaa refers to informing someone of what the ruling of Sharee`ah is on a particular issue. It is for this reason that not just everyone can give Fatwaa: not every knows what the ruling of Sharee`ah is, so how can that person give Fatwaa in that issue? If a person does not know the Shar`i Ahkaam regarding Zakaah or Buyoo`, for example, then how can he give Fatwaa in those matters?

Majority of Fiqhi rulings were derived using Ijtihaad and were not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah. If a person rejects quoting Fiqh or quoting any Imaam, then we will ask him a simple question:

"Give the exact definition of Hadd and Ta`zeer from Qur'aan and Sunnah. Don't quote any Kitaab, or any Imaam, or any Shaykh, or any scholar."

A Fatwaa is to tell a person what the Sharee`ah says about a particular issue. To do so, the person must have studied the Sharee`ah. He must have studied Qur'aan and Sunnah (along with Tafseer, `Usool-ut-Tafseer - obviously he must be fluent in Arabic, because the Qur'aan and Ahaadeeth are only understood through Arabic - and Mustalahul Hadeeth, Usool-ul-Hadeeth, `Ilm-ur-Rijaal, Naasikh wal-Mansookh, Asbaab-un-Nuzool, Mutlaq wal-Muqayyad, etc.) and have studied Fiqh, Usool-ul-Fiqh, al-Qawaa`id al-Fiqh-hiyyah, Maqaasid-ush-Sharee`ah, etc. Once he Knows the Sharee`ah, he can now give Fatwaa on the Sharee`ah.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Brother, everyone gives fatwas, i give fatwas to my children, the sahaabah would give fatwas despite never ever having read a book, sometimes they were wrong, one mujaahid sahabah brother with a head injury died because another sahaabah told him he had to make ghusl, the prophet pbuh told them they should have asked if they didn't know.....

No. When that incident took place, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم became Extremely angry and said, "They killed him! May Allaah kill them! Why did they not ask if they didn't know? The cure for ignorance is to ask!"

That is the consequence of unqualified people issuing Fataawaa.

The Qur'aan says:

فاسألوا أهل الذكر إن كنتم لا تعلمون

"Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know."

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

https://islamqa.info/en/21018

[aaj]

By the way: You are from the Ahl-e-Hadees movement, am I correct?

I've heard of them and they seem to be on the Quran and Sunnah so you could say yes.

[Umm Abed]

Now we have people questioning a great personality like Maulana Zakariyyah Kandhalwi. So many virtues in his book.

And how can we omit saying :saws: when mentioning the blessed name of the Prophet:saws: ?

I dont agree with this, Im not with you on this, Abz.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

I've heard of them and they seem to be on the Quran and Sunnah so you could say yes.

Read this:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/54601355/...he-Ahle-Hadith

http://www.deoband.net/uploads/2/1/0...35/taqleed.pdf

[Abz2000]

During the lifetime of Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم, not all of the Sahaabah gave Fataawaa; only some did. They were:

1. Hadhrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه.
2. Hadhrat `Uthmaan رضي الله عنه.
3. Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه.
4. Hadhrat `Abdur Rahmaan ibn `Awf رضي الله عنه.
5. Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn Mas`ood رضي الله عنه.
6. Hadhrat Ubayy ibn Ka`b رضي الله عنه.
7. Hadhrat Mu`aadh ibn Jabal رضي الله عنه.
8. Hadhrat `Ammaar ibn Yaasir رضي الله عنه.
9. Hadhrat Huzaifah ibn al-Yamaan رضي الله عنه.
10. Hadhrat Zaid ibn Thaabit رضي الله عنه.
11. Hadhrat Abu-d Dardaa رضي الله عنه.
12. Hadhrat Abu Moosaa al-Ash`ari رضي الله عنه.
13. Hadhrat Salmaan al-Faarisi رضي الله عنه.

124,000 Sahaabah. Only 13 gave Fatwaa whilst Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم was in this Dunyaa.

When Hadhrat Mu`aadh ibn Jabal, Hadhrat `Abdullaah ibn Mas`ood, Hadhrat Abu Moosaa al-Ash`ari, رضي الله عنهم were alive, the Taabi`een used to ask them the Fatwaa on different things. Why is that? They were Taabi`een. Why didn't they give their own Fatwaa?

Because you have to look, first of all, at what does Fatwaa actually mean?

This is the definition from al-Majallah al-Buhooth al-Islaamiyyah:

الإفتاء مصدر الفعل (أفتى)، والفتيا مأخوذة من فتى وفتو، وهي بمعنى (الإبانة)، يقال: أفتاه في الأمر إذا أبانه له.

وأصل (الفتوى) من الفتى وهو الشاب القوي الحدث فكأنه - أي المفتي - يقوي ما أبهم ببيانه وقوته العلمية

.

وقد وردت هذه الكلمة بتصاريف مختلفة في كتاب الله، تدور

"Al-Iftaa is the root noun of the verb أفتى (Aftaa), and الفتيا (al-Fatyaa) is derived from فتى وفتو, and it gives the meaning of al-Ibaanah (clarification). It is said, "He gave him a Fatwaa in a matter," when he had clarified it (for the person). The origin of the word "Fatwaa" is from الفتى (al-Fataa), and al-Fataa means a strong young man. So it is as though the Mufti (i.e. the one giving Fatwaa) strengthens that which is unclear through his explanation and strength in `Ilm. This word appears in various forms in the Kitaab of Allaah."

An example is given:

ويستفتونك قل الله يفتيكم في الكلالة

"They ask you for a Fatwaa: Say: Allaah will give you the Fatwaa regarding al-Kalaalah." (Meaning, Allaah Ta`aalaa will clarify for you the matter of al-Kalaalah.)

So the linguistic meaning of al-Iftaa (i.e. giving Fatwaa) is at-Tawdheeh (to clarify).

In terms of Sharee`ah, Iftaa refers to informing someone of what the ruling of Sharee`ah is on a particular issue. It is for this reason that not just everyone can give Fatwaa: not every knows what the ruling of Sharee`ah is, so how can that person give Fatwaa in that issue? If a person does not know the Shar`i Ahkaam regarding Zakaah or Buyoo`, for example, then how can he give Fatwaa in those matters?

Majority of Fiqhi rulings were derived using Ijtihaad and were not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah. If a person rejects quoting Fiqh or quoting any Imaam, then we will ask him a simple question:

"Give the exact definition of Hadd and Ta`zeer from Qur'aan and Sunnah. Don't quote any Kitaab, or any Imaam, or any Shaykh, or any scholar."

A Fatwaa is to tell a person what the Sharee`ah says about a particular issue. To do so, the person must have studied the Sharee`ah. He must have studied Qur'aan and Sunnah (along with Tafseer, `Usool-ut-Tafseer - obviously he must be fluent in Arabic, because the Qur'aan and Ahaadeeth are only understood through Arabic - and Mustalahul Hadeeth, Usool-ul-Hadeeth, `Ilm-ur-Rijaal, Naasikh wal-Mansookh, Asbaab-un-Nuzool, Mutlaq wal-Muqayyad, etc.) and have studied Fiqh, Usool-ul-Fiqh, al-Qawaa`id al-Fiqh-hiyyah, Maqaasid-ush-Sharee`ah, etc. Once he Knows the Sharee`ah, he can now give Fatwaa on the Sharee`ah.

Brother, you gave us a long lecture on the meaning of fatwa and i appreciate that, please try to understand what i am trying to convey to you when i tell you that Islaam encompasses all aspects of life, and as humans, we all have different levels of knowledge on any given subject, and we give advice to the best of our knowledge when asked about something, whether it is our children, a neighbour, a shopkeeper that one idly chats with, or an injured person.
If we know the answer, we provide it, if we're uncertain, we do our best given the circumstances in obedience to Allah, if it is an issue that can wait, we obviously refer it to someone more knowledgeable, and above every knower, there is a knower - until Allah.
I am in no way claiming that those people who have studied fiqh and received a certificate are necessarily foolish, i am telling you that since the day Allah swt put Adam (as) on earth and through the time of Muhammad the final messenger of Allah to mankind may the blesings and peace of Allah be upon him, people have always had to do their best to obey Allah, to gain knowledge, and to make decisions.

When my son comes and asks me a question, i have to do my best to give him a solid and honest opinion, if i am uncertain, i check with a more knowledgeable source, if i get a bunch of differing opinions, then i still have to contemplate and process it whilst being honest and sincere in seeking to obey and please Allah.

If it is a medical issue and i'm uncertain, i might check with someone who's knowledgeable in medicine, if the doctor doesn't even check my child's heartbeat despite her complaint of severe chest pain and prescribes a load of drugs, i throw away the prescription and go get an ecg done (since Allah has made it lawful) and ask someone who can read an ecg printout to tell me their observations, now it is the duty of the person doing the ecg to get a correct reading and explain honestly, if they give me a false reading and i find no other lawful avenue of checking, i put my trust in Allah to judge and give her the foods which i know to be good for the heart and keep the mosquito coil and cigarette smoke away from her.

I hope you understand what i'm saying......ultimately we are all required to use our brains, otherwise nobody would have accepted Islam due to the pope or priest telling them that Islaam is false and nobody would have followed 'eesaa because their scholars told them that he was a devil's servant for healing a man on the sabbath.

The task of scholars is to become knowledgeable in their fields and learn as much as they can to their last breath and to be sincere and truthful in issuing opinions whilst obeying and pleasing Allah, however we make sure to be truthful and sincere in our acceptance of what they say.
Even Sheikh Hasinah has scholars.
When an imaam stated at jumu'ah that it is kabeerah gunah (major sin) not to have a beard, most of the congrgation must have believed him, but i knew it as false due to the fact that i had studied a bit if you see what i mean, and that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a certificate or that i am the most knowledgeable person.

Tualab al 'ilm fareedatun 'alaa kulli Muslim.

Know that neither the prophets, nor the sahaabah, nor the initial taabi'een had certificates, the certificate is a document to show that one has reached a certain level of study, the study is for the deen, not vice versa.

Also look into the situation and differing opinions in the split between "'Ali (ra) and Mu'aawiyah.... to understand the human nature on rulings.

And this:

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/ibn-baaz...-saudi-arabia/

http://www.memrijttm.org/jaysh-al-fa...-in-syria.html

[Zamtsa]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Brother, are you asking a question, or implicitly stating that you believe those names mentioned in the Qur'aan are in reference to the Khulafaa-e-Raashideen?

They are completely different people.

[Zamtsa]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[Abz2000]

Brother, are you asking a question, or implicitly stating that you believe those names mentioned in the Qur'aan are in reference to the Khulafaa-e-Raashideen?

They are completely different people.

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Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Go on bro Hamzah, you're the scholar :)

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Brother, you gave us a long lecture on the meaning of fatwa and i appreciate that, please try to understand what i am trying to convey to you when i tell you that Islaam encompasses all aspects of life, and as humans, we all have different levels of knowledge on any given subject, and we give advice to the best of our knowledge when asked about something, whether it is our children, a neighbour, a shopkeeper that one idly chats with, or an injured person.
If we know the answer, we provide it, if we're uncertain, we do our best given the circumstances in obedience to Allah, if it is an issue that can wait, we obviously refer it to someone more knowledgeable, and above every knower, there is a knower - until Allah.
I am in no way claiming that those people who have studied fiqh and received a certificate are necessarily foolish, i am telling you that since the day Allah swt put Adam (as) on earth and through the time of Muhammad the final messenger of Allah to mankind may the blesings and peace of Allah be upon him, people have always had to do their best to obey Allah, to gain knowledge, and to make decisions.

When my son comes and asks me a question, i have to do my best to give him a solid and honest opinion, if i am uncertain, i check with a more knowledgeable source, if i get a bunch of differing opinions, then i still have to contemplate and process it whilst being honest and sincere in seeking to obey and please Allah.

If it is a medical issue and i'm uncertain, i might check with someone who's knowledgeable in medicine, if the doctor doesn't even check my child's heartbeat despite her complaint of severe chest pain and prescribes a load of drugs, i throw away the prescription and go get an ecg done (since Allah has made it lawful) and ask someone who can read an ecg printout to tell me their observations, now it is the duty of the person doing the ecg to get a correct reading and explain honestly, if they give me a false reading and i find no other lawful avenue of checking, i put my trust in Allah to judge and give her the foods which i know to be good for the heart and keep the mosquito coil and cigarette smoke away from her.

I hope you understand what i'm saying......ultimately we are all required to use our brains, otherwise nobody would have accepted Islam due to the pope or priest telling them that Islaam is false and nobody would have followed 'eesaa because their scholars told them that he was a devil's servant for healing a man on the sabbath.

The task of scholars is to become knowledgeable in their fields and learn as much as they can to their last breath and to be sincere and truthful in issuing opinions whilst obeying and pleasing Allah, however we make sure to be truthful and sincere in our acceptance of what they say.
Even Sheikh Hasinah has scholars.
When an imaam stated at jumu'ah that it is kabeerah gunah (major sin) not to have a beard, most of the congrgation must have believed him, but i knew it as false due to the fact that i had studied a bit if you see what i mean, and that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a certificate or that i am the most knowledgeable person.

Tualab al 'ilm fareedatun 'alaa kulli Muslim.

Know that neither the prophets, nor the sahaabah, nor the initial taabi'een had certificates, the certificate is a document to show that one has reached a certain level of study, the study is for the deen, not vice versa.

Also look into the situation and differing opinions in the split between "'Ali (ra) and Mu'aawiyah.... to understand the human nature on rulings.

And this:

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/ibn-baaz...-saudi-arabia/

http://www.memrijttm.org/jaysh-al-fa...-in-syria.html

We're looking at it from two different angles: You're right in what you're saying. What you're saying is that Allaah Ta`aalaa has gifted Insaan with `Aql (intellect) and that they should use it. They should not be like the Jews and Christians who blindly followed their priests and Rabbis. You are correct in saying so. Each people will be taken to account themselves and will not be able to use someone else as an excuse for why they did wrong.

What you are giving is not Fatwaa in the sense of the word as used by the `Ulamaa. Fatwaa implies Ijtihaad (i.e. deriving rulings which are not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah). Am I correct so far? You don't believe that every person is allowed to do Ijtihaad, yes? What you are doing is simply stating the Islaamic ruling (which you've learnt) to your children, or family, etc. You aren't doing Ijtihaad.

[Abz2000]

We're looking at it from two different angles: You're right in what you're saying. What you're saying is that Allaah Ta`aalaa has gifted Insaan with `Aql (intellect) and that they should use it. They should not be like the Jews and Christians who blindly followed their priests and Rabbis. You are correct in saying so. Each people will be taken to account themselves and will not be able to use someone else as an excuse for why they did wrong.

What you are giving is not Fatwaa in the sense of the word as used by the `Ulamaa. Fatwaa implies Ijtihaad (i.e. deriving rulings which are not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah). Am I correct so far? You don't believe that every person is allowed to do Ijtihaad, yes? What you are doing is simply stating the Islaamic ruling (which you've learnt) to your children, or family, etc. You aren't doing Ijtihaad.

It would be better to understand how the term ijtihaad should be understood. From what i understand from the term ijtihaad, it comes from jahada, which gives it a texture of wrestling, such as wrestling with a scenario in order to make accurate sense of it, even if wording is absent, all other knowledge should be utilized with wisdom to get to the spirit of what is correct in Allah's sight.
Let's look at some scenarios:

Would the brother who prayed towards Al Ka'bah before the turning of the Qiblah to Al Ka'bah have been practicing ijtihaad?

Or say for instance the brother who rolled himself in the dust before the verses of tayammum were revealed.

Or Aa-ishah (ra) when she did ijtihaad and prayed four rakahs during journey because she was comfortable completing the prayer in it's fullness for Allah's sake, although she knew that 2 rakahs was a concession by Allah. (It is no blame on you if you shorten your prayers) rather than (pray two units on journey).

Or the people who prayed sualaat al 'asr before reaching Banu Quraydhah after the siege of the trench because they understood the command "laa yusualliyaani ahadakum Al 'Asr illaa fee banee quraydhah" to mean hasten to Quraydhah without wasting time? (All interpretations being truthfully and sincerely to please Allah the most high of course).

I think those scenarios should help us to understand the nature of the term better.
Please look into it and think it over.
Your input is valued.

[Zamtsa]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

[Abz2000]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

:)

You are quite persistent in your questions aren't you?
I'll do my best to answer it.

Although Abu Bakr and 'Eesa's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being usually lenient, passionate, and cursing in times of frustration.

Although Dhu al Qarnain of Surah al kahf and 'Umar ibn Al Khattab's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being strong, divisive between haqq and baatuil, and pragmatically constructive.

Although Ali ibn Abi-Tuaalib and Lukmaan al Hakeem's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being wise judges and advisors.

And Allah knows best.

[naveedsubhani]

Ali ibn Abi Talib was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, ruling over the Islamic caliphate from 656 to 661.

[Zamtsa]

Is That A Fact ? , as matter of a fact , in Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim , They are alike .

[Zamtsa]

Thanks for those responds . Syukran .

[Zamtsa]

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Is Heraclius actually is ex Qarun ? .

[Zamtsa]

Any more responds to this thread ?

[Zamtsa]

Is Heraclius actually is ex Qarun ? .

[Zamtsa]

Anyone agree with the respond or answer which you find above ?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

No. Heraclius was not Qaaroon.

No person is another person. Each person is their own person.

[Zamtsa]

Syukran for the respond . I hope that there would be more respond to that , so thanks before that happen .

[Zamtsa]

Al Hazrat Al Kalil Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA and Al Hazrat Al Kalil Al 'Utsmaan Ibn Al Affan RA Are Both Al Muallaf . Is That True ?

[Zamtsa]

If Al Abu Hurairah RA Being Compare With Al Kalil Al 'Aali RA . Which One Is More Spiritual ?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

It is not our prerogative to judge between Sahaabah-e-Kiraam. Allaah Ta`aalaa knows best regarding their status.

What we do know is that the four greatest among the Sahaabah were:

1) Hadhrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه.

2) Hadhrat `Umar رضي الله عنه.

3) Hadhrat `Uthmaan رضي الله عنه.

4) Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه.

Was-Salaam.

[Zamtsa]

Syukran . Assalaam 'alaikum .

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

What do you mean by "Al Muallaf" in this case?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

[Zamtsa]

Ex non-Muslim .

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Yes. Majority of the Sahaabah converted to Islaam.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

It's been answered.

[Zamtsa]

However , I have to say that I don't agree though . But , thanks .

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

You don't agree?

Tell us why.

If you say one particular Sahaabah is greater than another, what Daleel (evidence) do you have for saying so?

We know that Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه is from the four greatest Sahaabah (he is from the Khulafaa-e-Raashideen), so he has greater Fadheelah (virtue) than Hadhrat Abu Hurayrah رضي الله عنه. However, with regards to Sahaabah other than those four, we don't know.

[Zamtsa]

So , Which one is more Spiritual , Al Khalifa Al 'Utsmaan RA or Al Khalifa Al 'Aali RA ?

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Hadhrat `Uthmaan رضي الله عنه is third of the four. He enjoys a Fadheelah (virtue) above that of Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه.

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

والله تعالى أعلم

[زهراء]

Brother, from all the questions you have asked thus far, how did it benefit you? What's your objective?
Would it not be of more benefit to work on our own spirituality than go on asking about these things?
Every Sahabi رضي الله عنه has a position in his own right. Each of their stories include lessons for us. Rather let's take the lessons from their lives.
That which we know regarding the rank of the four Khulafah and their status has been mentioned.
A Prophet will always have a higher status than a Sahabi.
In addition, the rank of the lowest ranking Sahabi رضي الله عنه will always be higher than that of any person who came after him-no matter how pious or great the person may be.
Also, we should not try and judge between the Sahaabah رضي الله عنهم , those decisions are not for us. Which ever one of them you follow you will be on the right path Insha Allah.
Let us keep in mind, it's necessary to learn. Knowledge can be attained by asking, but over-questioning can lead to destruction at times.

With peace

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Very good advice.

People should ask questions about things which will benefit them. Things which have a bearing on their life.

You will not be questioned about the Ambiyaa and the Sahaabah.

[Zamtsa]

Syukran for the respond .

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

Such questions should not be entertained, brother.

[زهراء]

Such questions should not be entertained, brother.

Most definitely