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Mustafa16
08-26-2016, 11:53 PM
I hear bad things about asharis and matuirdis.......I heard that asharis believe in an evolving interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah, matuirdis believe imaan does not increase or decrease, and that people can figure out that the major sins are haram without divine revelation while asharis don't, and that they believe that even those who did not hear of Islam will go to hell.....and that atharis believe in a literal interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah....which one of the schools of aqeedah is best?
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Umm Malik
08-27-2016, 10:49 PM
Aquidah of ahl assunnah waljamaa'a
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
08-27-2016, 11:27 PM
Don't involve yourself in intricate matters of `Aqeedah. As a layman, you will only become confused. Trust me.

Don't worry about the issue of "Madhaahib (Schools) of `Aqeedah".

The `Aqeedah in Soorah al-Ikhlaas was sufficient for the Sahaabah.

I know lots of people venture into this field, and end up wasting quite a lot of time of their life, and yet in the end they achieve nothing out of it.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
08-27-2016, 11:30 PM
I will just clear something up:

Those who told you that Maatureedis don't believe Imaan increases and decreases, they themselves have not studied `Aqeedah. The issue of Imaan increasing and decreasing - all Madhaahib of `Aqeedah have the same belief regarding it. There are only differences in semantics. The Atharis say that Imaan increases and decreases. The Maatureedis say, "If you say Imaan increases and decreases, what do you mean? Saying Imaan increases and decreases implies that the amount of things you believe in has increased, whereas that cannot be the case. All Muslims believe in the same things. Hence, Imaan does not increase and decrease. The quality of Imaan increases and decreases."

Both Madh-habs are saying the exact same thing. When the Atharis say Imaan increases and decreases, they mean the quality of one's Imaan. So once again, just semantics.
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hend.abuauf
08-28-2016, 07:56 AM
Aqeeda is the most important issue in Islam as it is the foundation of islam. That is why you should learn correct Aqeeda. But the correct Aqeeda is Aqeeda of ahlu assunah wal Jama'a which is the aqeeda of the prophet and his companions

If any school say something that is against what the prophet had said it is not the correct Aqeeda

https://islamqa.info/en/205836

https://islamqa.info/en/10693
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
08-28-2016, 10:34 AM
Yes, of course: `Aqeedah is the most important aspect of Islaam. BUT, how much `Aqeedah? That is the issue here. The issue of the Madhaahib of `Aqeedah goes beyond the bounds of what a layman is required to know in the field, and, instead of being a benefit, it can many times be harmful to him/her.

Intricate matters of `Aqeedah regarding which people will not be questioned, it will not increase their Imaan, and which arguments have been raging about for years and arguments will continue to be held are issues such as: "Can the Speech of Allaah Ta`aalaa be heard with the ears or is it heard in the mind? Does Allaah Ta`aalaa speak with letters and sounds? What is the meaning of Istawaa `alal-`Arsh? With regards to the Sifaat of Allaah, must we do Tafweedh-ul-Ma`naa or Tafweedh-ul-Kayf?"

The Salaf (particularly Imaam Maalik) regarded it as Makrooh to ask regarding such matters.

Allaah Ta`aalaa is beyond the understanding of the creation. They cannot even fully understand the creation, so how can they expect to fully comprehend and encompass the Creator?
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talibilm
08-28-2016, 02:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Yes, of course: `Aqeedah is the most important aspect of Islaam. BUT, how much `Aqeedah? That is the issue here. The issue of the Madhaahib of `Aqeedah goes beyond the bounds of what a layman is required to know in the field, and, instead of being a benefit, it can many times be harmful to him/her.

Intricate matters of `Aqeedah regarding which people will not be questioned, it will not increase their Imaan, and which arguments have been raging about for years and arguments will continue to be held are issues such as: "Can the Speech of Allaah Ta`aalaa be heard with the ears or is it heard in the mind? Does Allaah Ta`aalaa speak with letters and sounds? What is the meaning of Istawaa `alal-`Arsh? With regards to the Sifaat of Allaah, must we do Tafweedh-ul-Ma`naa or Tafweedh-ul-Kayf?"

The Salaf (particularly Imaam Maalik) regarded it as Makrooh to ask regarding such matters.

Allaah Ta`aalaa is beyond the understanding of the creation. They cannot even fully understand the creation, so how can they expect to fully comprehend and encompass the Creator?

:sl:

Yes, Iblis has many 1000's of ways to mislead even the Most Pious and this one of the disguised issue where even the Pious sometimes unknowingly cross their limits of discussion and enter the dangerous territory of discussing the Sifat of Allah which is barred by the Noble Quran instead they are required only to Ponder or discuss into Allah'S CREATIONS which is one of the main energiser for Eeman.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
08-28-2016, 02:51 PM
That is correct.
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فصيح الياسين
09-24-2016, 08:11 PM
Strange.. iam maturidi but i never heard tht eman do not increase or decrese frm imam maturidi...
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
09-24-2016, 10:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by فصيح الياسين
Strange.. iam maturidi but i never heard tht eman do not increase or decrese frm imam maturidi...
Imaam Abu Mansoor al-Maatureedi followed the `Aqeedah of Imaam Abu Haneefah as stated in al-Fiqh al-Akbar and al-Fiqh al-Absat, which is that Imaan does not increase or decrease.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
09-24-2016, 10:14 PM
If you are interested in reading either of these two Kitaabs, they are available for download from the following links:

https://archive.org/details/AlFiqhAlAkbar_201606

https://archive.org/details/AlFiqhAlAbsat

The original Kitaabs are in Arabic. I have translated them into English for the benefit of the English-speaking public.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
09-25-2016, 02:03 PM
The other A'immah have stated that Imaan does increase and decrease whereas Imaam Abu Haneefah says that it does not. This has caused confusion in the minds of some people who don't understand what Imaam Abu Haneefah meant. All of the A'immah had the very same belief with regards to Imaan; there was only a semantical difference. Imaam Abu Haneefah says that "Imaan does not increase or decrease", and what he means by that is: "The number of things you believe in does not increase or decrease, i.e. you believe in Allaah, the Rusul, the revealed Kutub, Jannah and Jahannam, the Malaa'ikah, etc. All Muslims believe in the same things, and the amount of these things which you believe in does not increase. Thus, Imaan does not increase or decrease. However, the quality of your Imaan increases and decreases."

That is exactly the same as what the other A'immah are saying. The other A'immah say, "Imaan increases and decreases," and what they mean by that is: "The quality of your Imaan increases and decreases."

So it's purely a semantical issue. They all had the same belief in reality.
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talibilm
11-01-2016, 02:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Don't involve yourself in intricate matters of `Aqeedah. As a layman, you will only become confused. Trust me.

Don't worry about the issue of "Madhaahib (Schools) of `Aqeedah".

The `Aqeedah in Soorah al-Ikhlaas was sufficient for the Sahaabah.

I know lots of people venture into this field, and end up wasting quite a lot of time of their life, and yet in the end they achieve nothing out of it.
People who wrestle with Aqeedha issues should remember this Post, and also ponder Why there were no much questions or issues of aqeedha during Sahabas ?

Its because Sahabas STRICTLY followed the Noble Quran and hadith which says not to ask thorny questions and too much questions UNLIKE later when such questions started to be asked and CONSEQUENTLY difference in answers , opinions to these thorny, tricky questions (iblis tricks) had led the ummah fall into different sects which is FROWNED by Allah swt in many verses.
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Supernova
11-01-2016, 04:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16
I hear bad things about asharis and matuirdis.......I heard that asharis believe in an evolving interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah, matuirdis believe imaan does not increase or decrease, and that people can figure out that the major sins are haram without divine revelation while asharis don't, and that they believe that even those who did not hear of Islam will go to hell.....and that atharis believe in a literal interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah....which one of the schools of aqeedah is best?
Dear brother Mustafa,
it is a very interesting question and i understand where you coming from asking this, as this topic is even brought up by ulema lashing out at others in this day and age. My advice is to ponder of the true intent of your search.
If you searching for the truth - then it is actually a very beautiful topic to talk about and learn from ulema, on the other hand if you just want to look for faults then its a waste of time.

For a simple layman the 5 kalimas, imaan e mujmal and imaan e mufasal is sufficient. If you ponder about these 7 kalimas and the meaning you will understand it is a summary of almost the entire 4 madhaaibs of aqeeda .....which is exactly why most groups of thought be it berelwi, deobandi, salafi, wahabi etc....you will find that most people in each group actually teach their children these 7 kalimas before anything else !!!

do tablighis teach jamaath work before the 7 kalimas ?
do berelwis teach meelad issues before the 7 kalimas ?
ETC ETC

Every group teaches their children these kalimas FIRST for a reason and that is simply because all the content in these kalimas are sufficient for a layman.

But like i said - its a beautiful topic to understand provided you learn each view under the ulema of that aqeeda so you dont get bias views.

Wasalaam.
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InToTheRain
11-02-2016, 11:59 AM
:salam:

Hope this is of use:
https://islamclass.wordpress.com/201...-sunni-aqidah/

Defining Sunni Islam:
http://masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/ahlsunna.htm
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shafat10
02-13-2017, 05:05 AM
So much contradictions in what people are saying. That is because we don't follow the true Aqeedah of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. As someone said, "we do not need Aqeedah", that is extremely false. You first need Aqeedah, then everything else. Because if you make mistakes in Aqeedah, then your whole life is destroyed, whereas if you make a mistake in Fiqh, the same doesn't happen. The problem why the Muslim world is in chaos is because some so called scholars go ahead and say "common people don't need Aqeedah", and then they make some Aqeedah by themselves which suits their personal needs, and hence, destroying the lives of common people by making them join in Shirk and Kufr. This must be avoided, because if a person has wrong beliefs about Allah, then it becomes extremely easy for him to get involved in Shirk. To avoid that, you must learn Aqeedah. One can try learning the Sahih Aqeedah of Islam by reading many books of the correct Manhaj (Methodology), for instance one can read Aqeedah Al Tahawiyya. That's the most famous book for true Aqeedah. And as someone said, Imam Abu Hanifa has differing opinions about Aqeedah, am sorry, that's so wrong. He, and all the 3 Imams of Fiqh all had the same Aqeedah of Alh Sunnah Wal Jammah. Later on, many people who claim to be followers of Imam Abu Hanifa, broke apart from the true Manhaj and got deviated. Abu Hanifa has nothing to do with it because he never preached wrong Aqeedah. It is the later people who lied against him saying that he has differing Aqeedah. The Aqeedah that Imam Abu Hanifa had is what is written in Aqeedah Al Tahawiyya and almost all Muslims who follow the true Aqeedah have followed this book. Hope this helps.
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azc
02-13-2017, 06:10 AM
Ashari, maturudi and salafi all 3 are explanations of true aqida based on Islamic scriptures. We shouldn't excel one to other.
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azc
02-13-2017, 06:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by shafat10
So much contradictions in what people are saying. That is because we don't follow the true Aqeedah of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jammah. As someone said, "we do not need Aqeedah", that is extremely false. You first need Aqeedah, then everything else. Because if you make mistakes in Aqeedah, then your whole life is destroyed, whereas if you make a mistake in Fiqh, the same doesn't happen. The problem why the Muslim world is in chaos is because some so called scholars go ahead and say "common people don't need Aqeedah", and then they make some Aqeedah by themselves which suits their personal needs, and hence, destroying the lives of common people by making them join in Shirk and Kufr. This must be avoided, because if a person has wrong beliefs about Allah, then it becomes extremely easy for him to get involved in Shirk. To avoid that, you must learn Aqeedah. One can try learning the Sahih Aqeedah of Islam by reading many books of the correct Manhaj (Methodology), for instance one can read Aqeedah Al Tahawiyya. That's the most famous book for true Aqeedah. And as someone said, Imam Abu Hanifa has differing opinions about Aqeedah, am sorry, that's so wrong. He, and all the 3 Imams of Fiqh all had the same Aqeedah of Alh Sunnah Wal Jammah. Later on, many people who claim to be followers of Imam Abu Hanifa, broke apart from the true Manhaj and got deviated. Abu Hanifa has nothing to do with it because he never preached wrong Aqeedah. It is the later people who lied against him saying that he has differing Aqeedah. The Aqeedah that Imam Abu Hanifa had is what is written in Aqeedah Al Tahawiyya and almost all Muslims who follow the true Aqeedah have followed this book. Hope this helps.
who are those scholars....? Plz explain in detail
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Serinity
02-13-2017, 06:24 AM
I only need to know Allah is one, the Creator, sustainer, who does not give birth, and was not born, and He has no Equal. Worship is only for Allah. Believe in the Prophets :as: and The last Prophet, Muhammad :saws1: . The books in its original form. The Angels, Jannah and Jahannam, Qadr, Day of Judgment.

That is it. Tbh. No need to make it harder than it is. Quality of Imaan increases and decreases. (As Brother Huzaifah ibn Adam pointed out)

It may have negative side effects to ask too many questions in regards to Allah and Aqeedah. Simplicity is key. We were not commanded except to Worship Allah :swt: alone, and obey Him :swt: and His Messenger :saws:

We absolutely need to know some Aqeedah. We need to believe in whatever the Quran says. But asking too much can be harmful.

Allahu alam.
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