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TheresaGray
08-29-2016, 05:47 PM
Do jins change forms into animals and different people, can they be seen by us? Can jinns possess people? Can u give proof from Quran please
Dont give me proofs from hadith and sunnah
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
08-29-2016, 05:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TheresaGray
Dont give me proofs from hadith and sunnah
Why is that?
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M.I.A.
08-29-2016, 07:47 PM
yes.

...I can't give you proof, I move out of the way for ants!

some people are too far gone, I once offered to get a burger for a guy..

he asked me what it does

:/


the hell! it a burger bro!

I'm not the merovingian or something!!



he was a nice guy though, not backbiting.


also extremely successful.. strange days.

suffice to say, it was only a temporary position.. my boss.

he won a holiday and a new contract while I was there.. so I guess I'm not the cooler.


I have to say most of it is a misguidance, no point in seeing a word without understanding it's on a page.. or having a concept of what a book is.

we all hear and obey..

although I am the sum of my morality.

..the birds say I'll never be successful.

...not a rango reference
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Abz2000
08-29-2016, 08:32 PM
They (the masons amongst the jinns) helped build in or around the masjid of sulaiman :saws:

قَالَ رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَهَبْ لِي مُلْكًا لَّا يَنبَغِي لِأَحَدٍ مِّنْ بَعْدِي إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْوَهَّابُ {35
038:035 Khan
:
He said: "My Lord! Forgive me, and bestow upon me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me: Verily, You are the Bestower."

فَسَخَّرْنَا لَهُ الرِّيحَ تَجْرِي بِأَمْرِهِ رُخَاء حَيْثُ أَصَابَ {36
038:036 Khan
:
So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed,

وَالشَّيَاطِينَ كُلَّ بَنَّاء وَغَوَّاصٍ {37
038:037 Khan
:
And also the Shayatin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver,

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وَلِسُلَيْمَانَ الرِّيحَ غُدُوُّهَا شَهْرٌ وَرَوَاحُهَا شَهْرٌ وَأَسَلْنَا لَهُ عَيْنَ الْقِطْرِ وَمِنَ الْجِنِّ مَن يَعْمَلُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِ وَمَن يَزِغْ مِنْهُمْ عَنْ أَمْرِنَا نُذِقْهُ مِنْ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ {12
034:012 Khan
:
And to Solomon (We subjected) the wind, its morning (stride from sunrise till midnoon) was a month's (journey), and its afternoon (stride from the midday decline of the sun to sunset) was a month's (journey i.e. in one day he could travel two months' journey). And We caused a fount of (molten) brass to flow for him, and there were jinns that worked in front of him, by the Leave of his Lord, and whosoever of them turned aside from Our Command, We shall cause him to taste of the torment of the blazing Fire.

يَعْمَلُونَ لَهُ مَا يَشَاء مِن مَّحَارِيبَ وَتَمَاثِيلَ وَجِفَانٍ كَالْجَوَابِ وَقُدُورٍ رَّاسِيَاتٍ اعْمَلُوا آلَ دَاوُودَ شُكْرًا وَقَلِيلٌ مِّنْ عِبَادِيَ الشَّكُورُ {13
034:013 Khan
:
They worked for him what he desired, (making) high rooms, images, basins as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places). "Work you, O family of Dawud (David), with thanks!" But few of My slaves are grateful.



Here's a sort of confirmation of the above in what remains of the edited previous scripture:

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[7] In that night did God appear unto Solomon, and said unto him, Ask what I shall give thee.
[8] And Solomon said unto God, Thou hast shewed great mercy unto David my father, and hast made me to reign in his stead.
[9] Now , O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established: for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude.
[10] Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?
[11] And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:
[12] Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like.

From 2 Chronicles 1


اصْبِرْ عَلَى مَا يَقُولُونَ وَاذْكُرْ عَبْدَنَا دَاوُودَ ذَا الْأَيْدِ إِنَّهُ أَوَّابٌ {17*
038:017 Khan
:Be patient (O Muhammad SAW) of what they say, and remember Our slave Dawud (David), endued with power. Verily, he was ever oft-returning in all matters and in repentance (toward Allah).

إِنَّا سَخَّرْنَا الْجِبَالَ مَعَهُ يُسَبِّحْنَ بِالْعَشِيِّ وَالْإِشْرَاقِ {18
038:018 Khan
:Verily, We made the mountains to glorify Our Praises with him [Dawud (David)] in the 'Ashi (i.e. after the mid-day till sunset) and Ishraq (i.e. after the sunrise till mid-day).


وَالطَّيْرَ مَحْشُورَةً كُلٌّ لَّهُ أَوَّابٌ {19
038:019 Khan
:And (so did) the birds assembled: all with him [Dawud (David)] did turn (to Allah i.e. glorified His Praises).



038:020 Khan
:We made his kingdom strong and gave him Al- Hikmah (Prophethood, etc.) and sound judgement in speech and decision.

038:020 Maulana
:And We strengthened his kingdom and We gave him wisdom and a clear judgment.

038:020 Pickthal :
We made his kingdom strong and gave him wisdom and decisive speech.

038:020 Rashad
:We strengthened his kingship, and endowed him with wisdom and good logic.

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There are some stories about a master mason from amongst the devils by the name of "asmodeus", but i cannot confirm since neither Allah nor His final messenger, nor evident proof confirm it. There is also a story of hiram abiff (or three stories) and his murder by a stonemason's hammer or something by three ruffians, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Abiff
A central theme in freemasonry, it is little known that the recent 3 guys 1 hammer incident was portrayed in ritual mirror fashion by the media, the only symbols drawn with blood they mention are the swastikas, however there are reported to have been more.

انظُرْ كَيْفَ ضَرَبُواْ لَكَ الأَمْثَالَ فَضَلُّواْ فَلاَ يَسْتَطِيعْونَ سَبِيلاً {48

017:048 Khan
:See what examples they have put forward for you. So they have gone astray, and never can they find a way.

017:048 Maulana
:See, what they liken thee to! So they have gone astray, and cannot find the way.

017:048 Pickthal
:See what similitudes they coin for thee, and thus are all astray, and cannot find a road!

http://3men1mission.com/
https://www.missionislam.com/comprel/threemen.html

Also bear in mind that those who are into demon worship and harnessing the power of black magic make constant references to the masjid of sulaimaan and ancient babel, the templars are famous for their digging in the area and later punishment for witchcraft (so called fellowcraft) in france, the free-masons (offshoot of the templars) are also into occult ritual and the famous black and white checkered floors, and their use of dark symmetry, and throwing out seemingly neutral between dark and light statements, geared towards casting illusions on the minds of people and making them think evil - without actually stating obvious evil (harnessed heavily by many masonic politicians and media heads), etc does indicate their knowledge of the existence of certain hacks and also their need to ensure they don't obviously fall foul of God, however, God knows their inner intentions and gives them rope whilst mocking them, God is the One who sent the angels to babel in the first place in order to sift people.

Anyways,.....Sulaiman :saws: utilized whatever he utilized of Allah's knowledge in the sevice of Allah, in obedience to Allah, and to please Allah, and sulaiman did not reject, but the devils rejected.

Same with Musa (as) Pharaoh requested even chances and used symmetry, but truth and goodness always prevails since the symmetry of evil backfires and brings evil, and the symmetry of good returns with good.

Right now and in the recent past, some of your leaders have been using dark symmetry and it is backfiring and there is also a lot of stored dark energy which Allah has not yet thrown back at them since He is merciful and prefers repentance, it would have been better for you and for them had they chosen good interpretations for good events, Allah would have showered more good in return.
Attempting to steal all blessings for the sake of evil and unjust bloodshed will only result in a return that is shored up - the remainder being stored into individual accounts for the day of judgement.
We are a people under trial.

Bear in mind also that Yusuf: saws: also used symmetry but for Allah's sake and it paid off well.

You try unjustly hanging a man like a scarecrow and make him bleed to death and use demons to do evil and he might come right back atcha in that position with angels and return your evil by Allah's leave :)



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08-29-2016, 09:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by TheresaGray
Can u give proof from Quran please
Dont give me proofs from hadith and sunnah
Do you know that hadith/sunnah is also part of the revelation?
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