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Serinity
10-03-2016, 08:21 AM
:salam:

What do I do? If I read Quran, how long till I feel a change?

I seriously had enough of this. It is about shirk. I know, yet it still weights me down. Why?

At this point I am almost despairing over ever attaining Jannah, if this continues. I can only hope at this point lol.

Islam is simple, cuz that is what Allah says.

Allahu alam.
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startingarabic
10-03-2016, 08:39 AM
About 3 to 6 months Maybe less maybe more.
It depends on a few factors.
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whosebob
10-03-2016, 09:12 AM
Write in a diary to Allah inshallah. Psychologist use this technique all the time. You replace a negative thought process with a positive one inshallah. It works for me and I have schizophrenia.
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startingarabic
10-03-2016, 10:29 AM
You need to start read the last 2 or 3 surahs regularly every day.
5 min to 5 hours.
The more you read the more your emaan will increase and this will crush the waswasa.
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startingarabic
10-03-2016, 10:36 AM
This field is a specialist field.
You are not going to get your specialist answer on a forum.
Here is a list of specialist in this area,if you contact them they can help you in this area.
I will post more learned people in this area once I contact them.

http://ummahboard.com/showthread.php...ails-for-Raaqi
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 11:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
:salam:

What do I do? If I read Quran, how long till I feel a change?

I seriously had enough of this. It is about shirk. I know, yet it still weights me down. Why?

At this point I am almost despairing over ever attaining Jannah, if this continues. I can only hope at this point lol.

Islam is simple, cuz that is what Allah says.

Allahu alam.
:sl:

Kindly put up your shirk questions to us even if its greatly Blasphemous. No one except Allah Claims as the Creator of the world.

Assume if you go and claim that a Particular Ranch belongs to you , beleive me you may not be spared for long . So Allah in the Noble Quran is Claiming it 1400 years still the Noble Quran Exists and the Religion of Allah exists and growing too. Hope this is one of many points that could help to clear your thoughts of Shirk.

And The saving of the Body of Pharaoh of exodus is not even found in its first Source THE OT , but in the ONLY in the noble Quran Proves its Allah the Author of the Noble Quran who sent the Judgement on Pharaoh and Moses battle it s Allah who saved Moses and Killed Pharaoh and also Miraculously saved ONLY ONE BODY of Pharaoh from the depth of the Ocean (The red Sea) among 10000's of soldiers though he was in the Forefront leading his Soldiers . Hope this helps you too.

Do you think the meat eating, sleeping god can do all this ?
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Serinity
10-03-2016, 11:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm
:sl:

Kindly put up your shirk questions to us even if its greatly Blasphemous. No one except Allah Claims as the Creator of the world.

Assume if you go and claim that a Particular Ranch belongs to you , beleive me you may not be spared for long . So Allah in the Noble Quran is Claiming it 1400 years still the Noble Quran Exists and the Religion of Allah exists and growing too. Hope this is one of many points that could help to clear your thoughts of Shirk.

And The saving of the Body of Pharaoh of exodus is not even found in its first Source THE OT , but in the ONLY in the noble Quran Proves its Allah the Author of the Noble Quran who sent the Judgement on Pharaoh and Moses battle it s Allah who saved Moses and Killed Pharaoh and also Miraculously saved ONLY ONE BODY though he was in the Forefront
I have no doubt Allah is the one and only true Creator.

I have no doubt that The Qur'aan is 100% the word of Allah - all of it.

But I have waswass regarding Worship. I know worship is only for Allah.

It is about Tawheed, and the Monotheism of Islam. The Purity of Tawheed.....

Islam prohibits all forms of shirk and all aspects of Shirk in all aspects.
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 11:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
I have no doubt Allah is the one and only true Creator.

I have no doubt that The Qur'aan is 100% the word of Allah - all of it.

But I have waswass regarding Worship. I know worship is only for Allah.

It is about Tawheed, and the Monotheism of Islam. The Purity of Tawheed.....

Islam prohibits all forms of shirk and all aspects of Shirk in all aspects.
Kindly elaborate Brother. Your reward depends on your Niyat or intention . Allah knows that you do not want to do Shirk.
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Serinity
10-03-2016, 12:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm
Kindly elaborate Brother. Your reward depends on your Niyat or intention . Allah knows that you do not want to do Shirk.
Firstly: I know the Quraan is 100% word of Allah. And I know Allah commands to worship none besides Allah.

I will never ever worship anyone or anything besides Allah. I know the answer, but shaytaan is now trying to doubt the words:

Anyone
Anything.

i know worshipping anything or anyone or whatever or whoever besides Allaah is shirk. it keeps playing on my mind.

So the question is, which I am stating reluctantly as I know the answer "Is Islam pure Monotheism, in all aspects? Particularily Worship of Tawheed? How is it?"

Read my signature, now what does "anyone" and "anything" mean? the any........ I am soo dumb.
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 02:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
Firstly: I know the Quraan is 100% word of Allah. And I know Allah commands to worship none besides Allah.

I will never ever worship anyone or anything besides Allah. I know the answer, but shaytaan is now trying to doubt the words:

Anyone
Anything.

i know worshipping anything or anyone or whatever or whoever besides Allaah is shirk. it keeps playing on my mind.

So the question is, which I am stating reluctantly as I know the answer "Is Islam pure Monotheism, in all aspects? Particularily Worship of Tawheed? How is it?"

Read my signature, now what does "anyone" and "anything" mean? the any........ I am soo dumb.
Donno I got you correct.

Tawheed is a word (imo) used to refer worshipping One God which came later after sahabas. So we are not worshipping Tawheed. Its like christians saying that they worship the word of God, Jesus which does not make sense either LIKE We cant even worship The Noble Quran which is also the Words of Allah, and this nothing but Iblis's twist to misguidance and shirk.
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Serinity
10-03-2016, 02:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm
Donno I got you correct.

Tawheed is a word (imo) used to refer worshipping One God which came later after sahabas. So we are not worshipping Tawheed. Its like christians saying that they worship the word of God, Jesus which does not make sense either LIKE We cant even worship The Noble Quran which is also the Words of Allah, and this nothing but Iblis's twist to misguidance and shirk.
So worship is only for Allah, only His :swt: right to be worshipped. Just like Allah :swt: 's attributes are for Allah alone. So is the right to be worshipped.

Allah's attributes and His rights to be worshipped is hold in the same regard - and seen in the same light. Right?

Worshipping anyone or anything, be it The Prophets or the Qur'aan - it is shirk. The only one whom it is not shirk to worship is Allah.
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 03:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
So worship is only for Allah, only His :swt: right to be worshipped. Just like Allah :swt: 's attributes are for Allah alone. So is the right to be worshipped.

Allah's attributes and His rights to be worshipped is hold in the same regard - and seen in the same light. Right?

Worshipping anyone or anything, be it The Prophets or the Qur'aan - it is shirk. The only one whom it is not shirk to worship is Allah.
Attribute like ar rahman Ar raheem is the Qualities of Allah . So Even a man can posses SOME of those qualities . But Allah = Only Allah

like Sun's attribute is Light but not all Light is Sun .
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
10-03-2016, 03:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
:salam:

What do I do? If I read Quran, how long till I feel a change?

I seriously had enough of this. It is about shirk. I know, yet it still weights me down. Why?

At this point I am almost despairing over ever attaining Jannah, if this continues. I can only hope at this point lol.

Islam is simple, cuz that is what Allah says.

Allahu alam.
You are worrying too much. That is also caused by Shaytaan. You need to relax. Take it easy.

Recite Qur'aan every day without fail and make Du`aa. Allaah Ta`aalaa will eventually remove all of these doubts and Wasaawis from your heart and establish it upon the Haqq, Aameen.
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 03:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
So worship is only for Allah, only His :swt: right to be worshipped. Just like Allah :swt: 's attributes are for Allah alone. So is the right to be worshipped.

Allah's attributes and His rights to be worshipped is hold in the same regard - and seen in the same light. Right?

Worshipping anyone or anything, be it The Prophets or the Qur'aan - it is shirk. The only one whom it is not shirk to worship is Allah.
Like to add that some attributes of Allah we have been stressed to follow them like being merciful, forgiving but still human's mercy (even All Prophet's ) and forgiving still is incomparable to that of Allah's. But Most of Allah's attributes will never apply even to Prophets or even Angels .

On the words of Allah ie the noble Quran there was a Controversy between the Views of Imam Ahmad bin Hambal (rah alay) and the Muslim king of his times that the noble Quran was a living Maklook which the Imam refused to accept for which he was whipped a 100 lashes at his old age so such was the stringent Imaams who were particular not to accept anything against the haq. So we should be careful not to raise anything more than the truth what it is. ( stand to be corrected if i had remembered wrong on this matter of Imam Hambal)
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Serinity
10-03-2016, 03:52 PM
I am left with a feeling of worry and anxiety if I do not counter the waswass... But the more I try the harder it becomes. :/

I know I shouldn't engage in countering the waswass with arguements. I should rather recite the Quran and get rid of it that way.

may Allah remove all the waswasis from my heart and grant me clarity and may Allah make the Haqq clear to me, without fail. Ameen.
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Kiro
10-03-2016, 03:53 PM
relax

don't focus too much on what you already know, look at other avenues
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talibilm
10-03-2016, 11:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
I am left with a feeling of worry and anxiety if I do not counter the waswass... But the more I try the harder it becomes. :/

I know I shouldn't engage in countering the waswass with arguements. I should rather recite the Quran and get rid of it that way.

may Allah remove all the waswasis from my heart and grant me clarity and may Allah make the Haqq clear to me, without fail. Ameen.
:sl:

Brother , There is no harm untill we do not enter the areas of Muthashabihat http://legacy.quran.com/3/7 OR Sifat or Nature of Allah OR Al Qadr OR Soul which we have been given only little knowledge which is known ONLY to Allah and in other areas its nothing wrong to discuss and clear doubts as Sahabas did and Inshallah there will be answers for them .

Incomplete knowledge about a subject could be detrimental so ask them its no harm if they do not enter the above mentioned areas,and Inshallah you will find answers sooner or later as Allah wills at its own Allah's fixed time.

Do not get discouraged by the waswas since I had them too when i was in my teens and I feel Iblis does that with EVER VERY POTENTIAL DA'EE ie inviter to Islam and eeman since my other colleagues did not have waswas as they did ONLY ibadah and did not concentrate on the dawah Part. So Shaitan creates the most problems to Da'ee by waswas or by giving him some other troubles that would destroy or limit his Potential of becoming a Daee or an inviter to islam , imo. In Short you are WITH the Potential of Doing Dawah (inshallah ) so are the hurdles from Iblis to you. But be steadfast and Dua to Allah as there is no Gain without pain and that applies spiritually as well.
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talibilm
10-04-2016, 11:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
I am left with a feeling of worry and anxiety if I do not counter the waswass... But the more I try the harder it becomes. :/

I know I shouldn't engage in countering the waswass with arguements. I should rather recite the Quran and get rid of it that way.

may Allah remove all the waswasis from my heart and grant me clarity and may Allah make the Haqq clear to me, without fail. Ameen.
:sl: Brother

Some reminder from the Reminder noble Quran , This link DESERVES a good read here http://www.tafheem.net/tafheem.html

وَمَنْ جَاهَدَ فَإِنَّمَا يُجَاهِدُ لِنَفْسِهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَغَنِيٌّ عَنِ الْعَالَمِينَ ﴿29:6


(29:6) Whosoever strives (in the cause of Allah) does so to his own good. *8 Surely Allah stands in no need of anyone in the whole Universe. *9

*8 The word mujahadah means to struggle and exert one's utmost against an opponent , and when the particular opponent force is not pointed out, the word implies an all-out, many-sided struggle. The struggle that a believer has to make in the world, is of this very nature. He has to fight against Satan, who frightens him every moment of the possible losses he thay have to incur for the sake of good and allures him with the benefits and pleasures of the evil. He has to fight his own self also, which exerts to make him the slave of its lusts. He has also to fight all those men, from home to the world outside, whose ideology, trends, morality, customs way of life and social and economic principles may be in conflict with his Faith; and he has to fight that state too, which enforces its laws independent of obedience to Allah, and employs its forces to promote evil instead of the good. This struggle is not of a day or two, but of a lifetime, of every moment of the day and night. And it is not a struggle in one field only but on every front of life. It is about this that Hadrat Hasan Basri has said: "Man exerts in the way of Allah, even though he may not strike one sword at any time."
*9 That is, "Allah is not asking you to exert your utmost because he stands in need of any help from you to establish His Godhead and keep it established and sustained. But He instructs you to enter this conflict because this opens the way to your own progress.Through this way only you can get rid of the evil and follow the way of truth; through this way alone you can develop the ability and power to rise as the standard-bearers of goodness in the world and become worthy of Allah's Paradise in the Hereafter. By waging this war you will not do any favour to AIlah. but will only be helping your own selves. "
(29:6) Whosoever strives(in the cause of Allah) does so to his own good. *8 Surely Allah stands in no need of anyone in the whole Universe. *9
*8 The word mujahadah means to struggle and exert one's utmost against an opponent , and when the particular opponent force is not pointed out, the word implies an all-out, many-sided struggle. The struggle that a believer has to make in the world, is of this very nature. He has to fight against Satan, who frightens him every moment of the possible losses he thay have to incur for the sake of good and allures him with the benefits and pleasures of the evil. He has to fight his own self also, which exerts to make him the slave of its lusts. He has also to fight all those men, from home to the world outside, whose ideology, trends, morality, customs way of life and social and economic principles may be in conflict with his Faith; and he has to fight that state too, which enforces its laws independent of obedience to Allah, and employs its forces to promote evil instead of the good. This struggle is not of a day or two, but of a lifetime, of every moment of the day and night. And it is not a struggle in one field only but on every front of life. It is about this that Hadrat Hasan Basri has said: "Man exerts in the way of Allah, even though he may not strike one sword at any time."
*9 That is, "Allah is not asking you to exert your utmost because he stands in need of any help from you to establish His Godhead and keep it established and sustained. But He instructs you to enter this conflict because this opens the way to your own progress.Through this way only you can get rid of the evil and follow the way of truth; through this way alone you can develop the ability and power to rise as the standard-bearers of goodness in the world and become worthy of Allah's Paradise in the Hereafter. By waging this war you will not do any favour to AIlah. but will only be helping your own selves. "
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Eric H
10-05-2016, 03:55 AM
Greetings and peace be with you Serinity;

may Allah remove all the waswasis from my heart and grant me clarity and may Allah make the Haqq clear to me, without fail. Ameen.
You have sincerity of belief, all you have to do is trust that Allah wants this for you, and nothing is impossible for Allah.

My understanding of worshiping false gods is this, if I became obsessed with making money, then greed becomes my false god, the worship of money and possessions become more important than Allah in my life. If lusting after lots of women becomes my obsession, then lust becomes my false god. The sins we repeat regularly become our god, we struggle to control our urges in life.

It is not so much what goes into our minds that matters, but rather what we do with these thoughts that causes us to sin. I like this quote about how powerful thoughts are..........


Destiny Douglas C Hess

Watch Your Thoughts, For They Become Words,
Choose Your Words, For They Become Actions,
Understand Your Actions, For They Become Habits, Study Your Habits For They Become Your Character,
Develop Your Character,
For It Becomes Your Destiny.,



In the spirit of placing all our trust in Allah.

Eric
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Serinity
10-05-2016, 05:25 AM
:salam:

I understand, but it seems that everytime I go over a struggle, another struggle occures. I know I was right.

I know that Allah guides whom He wills. It is strange but here goes:

Now I have waswass over these words:

Anyone and Anything.. Or more precisely, the word "any". What does it mean?

Worshipping anyone or anything no matter who what or who it is besides Allah, is major shirk, be it a Prophet, or anything at all besides Allah (The Creator)
And Allah :swt: knows best.
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