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Mustafa16
11-21-2016, 12:37 AM
If only, if only….but who would hear?
There is no one to turn to, over here
I want you, but you are not here or near
And your memory is starting to fade
As the rules cast their shade
And the cold makes me sick, the arrival late-
The arrival late, if at all
Do you know, my dearest shining rose
How much I cried for you?
Without regret for who I chose?
But bitterness and rage, and sadness, and despair?
Which I wear-
On my head like you wear….
Your scarf
I have not heard from you in so many years
But you do not care, but you do not care
And if you did, perhaps your fears are like my fears
And you want me, too
But how can you, when you shunned me
And shunned me, and crushed me
But perhaps it is my punishment, all these years until Ihave a job
For giving you the dirty look, my curse until I sob
You wanted to be my friend, and all I cared about wasromance
So I gave you one quick look, hoping for a girl who wouldsoon leave
And who was nothing but a lustful glance
Stirrings, which id rather have shared with you, before Ileave
I know that if I do not think, there will be less pain
And the end result will be the same
And perhaps you will be mine to wed,
Or perhaps at envy ill whisper, “may Allah bless you,” atyour future husband with you in the shed


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Mustafa16
11-21-2016, 06:20 PM
I feel hurt that 34 people saw this thread but didn't bother to respond.......Is my poem really that bad? or is the theme simply overused?
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Mustafa16
11-22-2016, 07:15 PM
@Serinity @Little_Lion @aaj @sister herb could you all respond to this, I'm starting to feel depressed that no one responded.....
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sister herb
11-22-2016, 07:23 PM
Was it a poem really? You just wrote as poem similar text like you have done many times before. You tell about your desperate hopes to become loved, to be important to someone. Well, that´s normal feeling, many feel and wish the same.

May Allah gives peace to your mind. And some balance too.
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Serinity
11-22-2016, 08:12 PM
:salam:

my advice to you is:

Do what is right, even if it feels wrong. Stop thinking of her. yes, it might feel off, you might not like it. But what matters is doing what is right.

If you love her, then ask her dad for marriage.

And Allah :swt: knows best.
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Mustafa16
11-22-2016, 08:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
:salam:

If you love her, then ask her dad for marriage.
Im only 17, im still in high school, I dont have a job, and in our community they expect men to be college educated and/or be making enough money before marriage...that means i have to wait until im 21 (that is, if i can finish college in 3 years by taking summer classes), or I would have to ditch college in favor of a two year degree, or a job straight out of high school, but knowing her family, they would probably want her to be college educated first....so even if I dont get a college education, her getting one will get in the way, and the way it works in the United States is that if you are going to college in another state (say you live in Florida and decide to go to college in Georgia), then you would have to pay MUCH more tuition, and that is a burden, unless you are an exceptional student or borrow riba loans.... i asked my mother over the phone while she was at work after you gave this advice if i could ask her father for hr hand in marriage, and she said, "we'll talk about it when I get home," but knowing my mother, she is probably just saying that so I don't bother her while she's at work, and when gets home she'll say no, and yell at me for obsessing over marriage.
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Serinity
11-22-2016, 08:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16
Im only 17, im still in high school, I dont have a job, and in our community they expect men to be college educated and/or be making enough money before marriage...that means i have to wait until im 21 (that is, if i can finish college in 3 years by taking summer classes), or I would have to ditch college in favor of a two year degree, or a job straight out of high school, but knowing her family, they would probably want her to be college educated first....so even if I dont get a college education, her getting one will get in the way, and the way it works in the United States is that if you are going to college in another state (say you live in Florida and decide to go to college in Georgia), then you would have to pay MUCH more tuition, and that is a burden, unless you are an exceptional student or borrow riba loans.... i asked my mother over the phone while she was at work after you gave this advice if i could ask her father for hr hand in marriage, and she said, "we'll talk about it when I get home," but knowing my mother, she is probably just saying that so I don't bother her while she's at work, and when gets home she'll say no, and yell at me for obsessing over marriage.
So you want to marry her, but because of the expectations in your community you have to finish college, which means 4 years from here.

Can you ask your dad to ask her dad about marriage? Perhaps you could ask for her dad, and make a plan for you to marry her (if she wants) AFTER you finish education.

Like, marry now, and live seperately till you finish education, or (if halal Idk if this is) ask her dad through your dad, to delay marriage, and to keep him in mind, and to not approach another man, untill you finish education, so you can marry her.

Idk how old the girl you seek is. But do not become depressed if she rejects you. If I were you, I'd ask her dad for his daughter in marriage, and perhaps delay it, till you finish college.

Put your trust in Allah. Make dua to Allah, and do istikhara. may Allah help you, and do what is best for you. Ameen.

Do not seek help from anyone or anything in a supernatural way except for Allah!

And Allah :swt: knows best.
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aaj
11-22-2016, 08:57 PM
if it's meant to be then it will happen and you can think about it the possibility of marriage in college. Now you should move on and stop wasting your energy on this .


Forever and a day in my mind is etched
That moment (in the disco) when we both met
What has now happened doesn’t diminish at all
The experience, forever ...without regret
You’ve gone now, time I moved on
And though memories remain,deep in my heart
Tears have been shed and now wiped away
I wish you well in your brand new start
If we meet in the future remember this time
The very moment that our ways did part
And remember that we had once, and retain
A little piece of each other's heart
Jon Bratton © 2012
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Mustafa16
11-22-2016, 09:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
So you want to marry her, but because of the expectations in your community you have to finish college, which means 4 years from here.

Can you ask your dad to ask her dad about marriage? Perhaps you could ask for her dad, and make a plan for you to marry her (if she wants) AFTER you finish education.

Like, marry now, and live seperately till you finish education, or (if halal Idk if this is) ask her dad through your dad, to delay marriage, and to keep him in mind, and to not approach another man, untill you finish education, so you can marry her.

Idk how old the girl you seek is. But do not become depressed if she rejects you. If I were you, I'd ask her dad for his daughter in marriage, and perhaps delay it, till you finish college.

Put your trust in Allah. Make dua to Allah, and do istikhara. may Allah help you, and do what is best for you. Ameen.

Do not seek help from anyone or anything in a supernatural way except for Allah!

And Allah :swt: knows best.
I just asked my mother if she could ask her parents for me, she yelled at me, and said, "that is so inappropriate!!!" and when i tried to ask about it more (we were on the phone) she hung up......my father would be about 5 times worse....ive asked him this sort of thing before, and his response was, "finish college, get a good job, and when youre mature, ILL help you get married," or getting mad at me for talking about marriage.
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sister herb
11-23-2016, 03:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16
"finish college, get a good job, and when youre mature, ILL help you get married,"
Then, you better do as your dad has said to you. As we have gave to you our advices about this matter several times before, could you soon move on and start to discuss about some other matters? Repeating same things doesn´t change anything. Listen your parents and follow their advices, make a lot of work while studing and put your trust to Allah. That has always been a key for the success.
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*charisma*
11-23-2016, 08:12 PM
Assalamu Alaikum,

Since this thread is gearing offtopic and discussing a previous repeated topic, it will be closed.

Again, bump up old threads if advice is insufficient.

:threadclo
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