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SmileyFace
04-03-2017, 04:40 PM
I mean if a person is gay and can;t feel any attraction towards women and that person is a MUSLIM then what should he do? should we stone him to death?? he can only think of men: not actually having sex; he thinks about sleeping beside a gay man cuddling that man. is that a sin? ( i know its a sin but i need proof to tell him which i do not have) he just likes to hug man. he respects woman a lot. he can't think of a woman as his wife. he is even very much with the girls. but he sometimes feel shy infront of handsome males. now, being a muslim and gay at the same time, what should he do? how should he fulfill his sexual demand? Another last question; IS IT A SIN TO HUG A PERSON OF SAME SEX OR EVEN TOUCH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BODY PARTS OF SAME SEX??
PLEASE I NEED ALL THE ANSWERS FOR MY FRIEND ASAP!!!!:heated:imsad
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'Abd-al Latif
04-03-2017, 04:56 PM
:salamext:

The answer is simple. Become straight.

Being gay isn't a birth defect it's a choice.

What one should do in a situation like this is raise his hands and ask Allah to guide him to the straight path. He should seek refuge in Allah from the evil whispers of shaytan, repent to Allah for all sins and should block thoughts of homosexuality. The reason one has these thoughts is because of low iman and a lack of sincere belief in Allah.

Recite Qur'an, pray your five prayers, seek repentance, increase yourself in knowledge of Islam, and ask Allah to guide you to the straight path and shun all evil thoughts of homosexuality.
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whosebob
04-03-2017, 05:25 PM
I remember seeing something about a gay man that overcome his homosexuality on the website aboutislam.net. Do a search in their search engine. You'll find the fatwa you searching for. They also have a counseling page.

go to http://aboutislam.net/ask-the-scholar/
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Abdullah910
04-03-2017, 05:26 PM
Act of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes and the punishment for the one who commits that filth is to be executed.

You must understand that Allah tests those he loves and if you are a gay than this is a test from Allah. It is your duty as a Muslim to stay away from this filth and to pass the test.

The greater the test, the greater the reward :)
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whosebob
04-03-2017, 05:30 PM
I can't get married. I've been single for more than ten years. You don't see me looking for other ways to gratify myself. It's simple. Allah does'nt want you to do it, so don't. I was'nt always this way. I had girlfriends but it took a life changing event to change my life for the better Alhamdullilah. Allah gave me a better perspective. I went to Mosque, prayed 5 times a day, read Quran and I worked very hard on myself mashallah. After some time you realize that ones happiness does'nt lie in sin. The Answer to happiness is Allah.
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Muslimah inshal
04-03-2017, 05:57 PM
It is recommended to fast
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Muslimah inshal
04-03-2017, 06:09 PM
I remember watching a video by Zakir Naik about being gay and he said that being gay is a choice . Is something you choose . You don't born being gay.
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*charisma*
04-03-2017, 06:39 PM
Assalamu Alaikum

Anyone who is gay should do just as what their straight counterparts would do: control himself. Don't act upon your desires. It's not haram to hug or greet a person of the same sex, but if he is intentionally doing it because he is gay, then he should stop. It's simple really. I don't know why people complicate things.
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Sho Islam
04-03-2017, 08:26 PM
My dear brother in Islam, unfortunately in the society we live in today being gay/lesbian is something which is seen as normal. This westernised society pushes us to gratify our senses and emotions in whatever form we desire and pushes the concept of freedom so that you should do what you WANT.

The reality is different though.

Now my coming example will be distasteful but I hope you understand the point.

If your friend came to you and said he had these feelings for young children (i.e. Phedofilia) in the same manner, what would you say?

Of course, regardless of how severe those feelings are, you would advise him to work to get rid of these feelings and simply not act on them and maybe even seek professional help.

The point is just because you have feelings for something does not make gratifying those feelings right.

That doesn't mean he has to force himself into marriage to a woman, rather on the contrary Islam has given the choice to get married or not.

May Allah guide all of us Ameen
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Karl
04-04-2017, 12:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by EhsanKhan
I mean if a person is gay and can;t feel any attraction towards women and that person is a MUSLIM then what should he do? should we stone him to death?? he can only think of men: not actually having sex; he thinks about sleeping beside a gay man cuddling that man. is that a sin? ( i know its a sin but i need proof to tell him which i do not have) he just likes to hug man. he respects woman a lot. he can't think of a woman as his wife. he is even very much with the girls. but he sometimes feel shy infront of handsome males. now, being a muslim and gay at the same time, what should he do? how should he fulfill his sexual demand? Another last question; IS IT A SIN TO HUG A PERSON OF SAME SEX OR EVEN TOUCH DIFFERENT TYPES OF BODY PARTS OF SAME SEX??
PLEASE I NEED ALL THE ANSWERS FOR MY FRIEND ASAP!!!!:heated:imsad
There are only two paths. Abstinence from homosexual behaviour. Or leave Islam and live the life of a libertine homosexual in a place that you are not surrounded by Muslims. If flesh hunger and desire is stronger than your faith, then choose the second path. If your love of Allah is stronger choose the first.
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Simple_Person
04-04-2017, 02:31 AM
Homosexuality is a desire. What I mean by this is that the heart is filled with that that does not belong there. Like greed is also a desire, having something or wanting something is normal but when it becomes out of control it twists so much that it becomes something that is prohibited. Like greed. Wanting money and working for it in a balanced approach is normal but desiring money so much that sheytan twists it that it becomes greed.

So the same case with being gay. For example when some person has so much respect for somebody that it goes beyond the limits of respect but rather goes towards some things that are beyond boundaries of respect.

So what can one do about these extremist desires? Walk the road of Islam. Start praying 5 times a day, start fasting voluntary stop thinking about it. When one does these things, what resided in the heart as desire that was corrupted becomes pure again and within the limits of Islam. The greed becomes again healthy wanting money to do basic things in life, desire of wanting to be with men also restores it self and again start desiring women instead and all. Why? Because Islam restores the fitrah.

There are men who say I can't overcome it. Off course they can't overcome it if they don't stop thinking about it. When you constantly think about something it does not leave the heart and the fitrah doesn't restores. Just like men who can't overcome a woman that dumped them as they are constantly thinking about her.

Stop thinking about it and follow Islam.
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YahyaAE
04-04-2017, 05:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
The answer is simple. Become straight.
I don't think there is a straight button, nor is there a gay button. I studied psychology at university and I can see that for most people who identify as gay but don't want to come out, there is a high chance they don't want to be gay. Why would they? They can't get married. Cant even mix with people of the same sex without being attracted etc. So what about a Muslim who is gay. My answer would be to say if a Muslim really thinks he or she is gay (not bisexual) and don't want to compromise their Deen, then just take what you are going through as a test from Allah. Only you and Allah knows whats in your heart. If on the other hand you are bisexual, focus all of your energy on your partner (who should be of the opposite sex) and keep your sex life halal.
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piXie
04-04-2017, 06:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by yahya2k
I don't think there is a straight button, nor is there a gay button.
:sl:

You are correct. Neither is there a healthy button , or an unhealthy button either. A man becomes unhealthy and ill when he abandons what is good for his body, and similarly his soul becomes diseased when he abandons what is good for it (i.e. the 5 daily prayers, rememberance of Allah etc) and exposes himself to harmful , unnatural stimuli (exposing himself to situations which are haram). And if by reversing ones lifestyle and diet and through good choices, it can make a man healthy again in his body, then turning to Allah in obedience can rid the soul and heart of these deviations, making the person healthy, normal and straight again. It is a process , a choice we make - one not without effects and consequences. We all have to strive in life and we will get what we strive for. This is our test.
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greenhill
04-04-2017, 08:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
Anyone who is gay should do just as what their straight counterparts would do: control himself. Don't act upon your desires.
That is the best answer I have read so far!

WOW!

It is a really simple and truthful answer. I am straight (although I did have some confusion in my teens.. but it was just that.. a confusion) but I am attracted to the opposite sex, and my desires can be all over the place. I have to act on them. It is very hard. Just as I would have to if I was gay.


:peace:
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Umm♥Layth
04-04-2017, 11:41 AM
It is very disheartening to see such harsh views. If you are gay, your imaan is weak and you don't believe in Allah. How can a person even begin to have hope when they are told something like this? Is this what the prophet (saw) did?

A homosexual who doesn't act upon their desires has a strong imaan and obviously great belief in Allah. Just like any other person who controls their desires. Having thoughts and desires does not make one weak or a disbeliever in any way, shape or form. It is what we do with those thoughts and desires that matters.

You can't tell a person who identifies as a homosexual that homosexuality is a choice just like walking right or left or choosing your favorite soda flavor. for them, it isn't so simple. You have to understand how it all works in order to advise them and allow them to think on their own. If you cannot understand them and find a way to relate, then make dua for them, but do not belittle them. They have it tough enough as it is. Have compassion.

Homosexuality is a product of modern upbringing. Kids are regularly exposed to cartoons, music and programs that slowly but surely bring about the message that this behavior is okay, even if the adults can't see it. Seeds are planted BY EXPOSURE and/or experiences (molestation for example). We are raised looking at photos of naked men and women on billboards and some of us even exposed to pornography at a very young age. All of these scenarios plant seeds. These seeds are then fueled and grown by societies' encouragement . This is a gross summary by the way, it isn't as simple as I make it sound.

Don't forget that some men are naturally more feminine than others and some women are naturally more masculine than others due to hormones, development and upbringing. These differences are NORMAL, but it is taken as an opportunity (by modern society) to convince the person that they are gay. Men are expected to be a certain kind of "manly" otherwise they are considered gay/queer. Women are expected to be a certain kind of feminine and if they don't fit the bill they are butch. Don't believe me? Just have a look in the mirror and see how your own views reflect exactly what I just said.

This kind of isolation and rejection by peers and family leaves the individuals with self doubt and questioning their sexuality and society provides labels for them to identify with and soon they become attached. Do you see that?

OP, If you have never experienced desire for the same gender, it will be difficult for you to be able to relate and advice someone going through this. I personally do believe homosexuality can be overcome, but the person has to want it and that is the difficult part.

I don't have much advice, just my insight on the matter.
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Muslimah inshal
04-04-2017, 01:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person
Homosexuality is a desire. What I mean by this is that the heart is filled with that that does not belong there. Like greed is also a desire, having something or wanting something is normal but when it becomes out of control it twists so much that it becomes something that is prohibited. Like greed. Wanting money and working for it in a balanced approach is normal but desiring money so much that sheytan twists it that it becomes greed.

So the same case with being gay. For example when some person has so much respect for somebody that it goes beyond the limits of respect but rather goes towards some things that are beyond boundaries of respect.

So what can one do about these extremist desires? Walk the road of Islam. Start praying 5 times a day, start fasting voluntary stop thinking about it. When one does these things, what resided in the heart as desire that was corrupted becomes pure again and within the limits of Islam. The greed becomes again healthy wanting money to do basic things in life, desire of wanting to be with men also restores it self and again start desiring women instead and all. Why? Because Islam restores the fitrah.

There are men who say I can't overcome it. Off course they can't overcome it if they don't stop thinking about it. When you constantly think about something it does not leave the heart and the fitrah doesn't restores. Just like men who can't overcome a woman that dumped them as they are constantly thinking about her.

Stop thinking about it and follow Islam.
What's the meaning of FITRAH ?
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Muslimah inshal
04-04-2017, 01:43 PM
I'm sorry if I ever hurt someone here. Forgive me
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Abz2000
04-04-2017, 02:31 PM
It is haraam for a man to become a woman and a woman to become a man, even yet we know it is physically possible to transform and change gender (HRT). What excuse does a man have for not seeking methods to become a man within the limits of Allah other than the fact that they are corrupt and arrogant?

Here the Prophet pbuh describes physical, nutritional (chemical) and spiritual methods people can use to try to rectify themselves to a certain extent.

“O young men, whoever among you can afford to get married, let him do so, and whoever cannot afford it, let him fast, for that will be a shield for him.” (Agreed upon, from the hadeeth of Ibn Mas’ood, may Allaah be pleased with him. Al-Bukhaari, 4778; Muslim, 1400).

No 4695 Narrated Sahl bin Sad:
A lady came to the Prophet and declared that she had decided to offer herself to Allah and His Apostle. The Prophet said, "I am not in need of women." A man said (to the Prophet) "Please marry her to me." The Prophet said (to him), "Give her a garment." The man said, "I cannot afford it." The Prophet said, "Give her anything, even if it were an iron ring." The man apologized again. The Prophet then asked him, "What do you know by heart of the Quran?" He replied, "I know such-and-such portion of the Qur'an (by heart)." The Prophet said, "Then I marry her to you for that much of the Qur'an which you know by heart."


https://islamqa.info/en/181556
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Abz2000
04-04-2017, 03:03 PM
Possible effects of certain foods to think abput in the day and age where women take pills and stop producing eggs, then start wearing pants, and men in-take a higher amount of hormone injected chicken and start waving their wrists in a limp manner, can't get it up coz of prn, then they hate each other and stop reproducing - no wonder Muslims (generally) appear to be faring better on the reproduction scale :) since the balance is better adjusted.
Alpha to Omega God, beta and beti couples, logical.

Did you know that if you eat enough poultry, you can turn gay? That is what one Colombian model seems to think. Model Natalia Paris’ Biden moment came when she told Colombian TV network Caracol that boys who have eaten chicken injected with hormones increase their chance of becoming gay.

“Because of that, the boys that are eating [that kind of] chicken, because they are injecting female hormones, are starting to turn into homosexuals”-Natalia Paris

No word yet on whether or not these very same boys who become gay after eating hormone-injected chicken, begin to grow feathers during puberty. We asked a few prominent and well-known experts on chicken to opine on the issue. Here is what they said-



That woman is crazy. But she does bring up a good point in regards to hormone injections.

I am wondering if my bird feed is injected with the same type of hormones that could possibly be causing me slip and fall all the time?
I call on Vice President Biden to convene a committee to look into the possibility that bird feed is being injected with hormones. After all, as Biden would say, “This is a big F@$#@g deal.”

http://shark-tank.com/2013/03/23/if-...-you-turn-gay/

What You Eat Can Affect Sex Hormones

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What You Eat Can Affect Sex Hormones

By Laurie Barclay, MD
FROM THE WEBMD ARCHIVES
May 17, 2001 -- Watching how much and what kind of fat you eat may have an unexpected benefit, according to a report in the May issue of Metabolism. Meals low in fat may actually decrease levels of testosterone, a male sex hormone that may increase risk of prostate cancer.

"This was only a preliminary, short-term study," says researcher Madeleine J. Ball, MD, a professor of biomedical sciences at the University of Tasmania in Australia. "It aims to alert other researchers to consider the short-term effects of meals on hormones."

Ball and coauthor Raymundo C. Habito studied 15 healthy men 2-6 hours after eating four different types of meals under similar conditions. All meals contained the same number of calories, but differed in type of protein and in quantity and type of fat.

After low-fat meals of tofu or lean meat, but not after meals high in animal fat, testosterone and another index of male hormone levels dropped. Adding unsaturated vegetable oil to the lean meat meal didn't change the effect on lowering male hormones.

Peter Gann, MD, ScD, an associate professor and program leader in cancer prevention at the Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center in Chicago, finds the results interesting and even surprising.

"We are accustomed to thinking that the potential effects of diet on sex hormone levels are gradual and long-term," says Gann, who was not involved with the study.

Possible mechanisms that Gann suggests might allow sex hormone levels to change so quickly after meals are insulin levels rising after eating, or shifting of male hormones from one body tissue, such as fat or blood, to another.

While earlier studies did not show major differences in male hormones after eating relative to fasting, Gann says this does not rule out an effect from specific types of meals......

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/ne...t-sex-hormones
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Simple_Person
04-04-2017, 04:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah inshal
What's the meaning of FITRAH ?
Fitrah sister is the human nature. Human nature for example, knows what is good and what is bad. It is disgusted with bad behavior and leans towards good behavior and actions or if you have done something bad you feel bad about it. This human nature goes way deeper than my simplistic explanation, as also part of this human nature is already acknowledging that there is 1 God. However when a person is born, his/her parents teach him/her things for example that go out of their way and follow things that are not in line with human nature. The more a person follows Islam in the actions, the more the fitrah becomes clean from "dirt" so to say. The more practicing you become and thus more the fitrah becomes pure, the less you want to look at haram things or talk bad about people or even listen to people talking bad about other people.
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Muslimah inshal
04-04-2017, 04:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person
Fitrah sister is the human nature. Human nature for example, knows what is good and what is bad. It is disgusted with bad behavior and leans towards good behavior and actions or if you have done something bad you feel bad about it. This human nature goes way deeper than my simplistic explanation, as also part of this human nature is already acknowledging that there is 1 God. However when a person is born, his/her parents teach him/her things for example that go out of their way and follow things that are not in line with human nature. The more a person follows Islam in the actions, the more the fitrah becomes clean from "dirt" so to say. The more practicing you become and thus more the fitrah becomes pure, the less you want to look at haram things or talk bad about people or even listen to people talking bad about other people.
Ah okay
I understand
Jazaka allahu Khairan kathiran
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