format_quote Originally Posted by
anatolian
No. You cant come solely out of your father. You need a mother :) You can claim your mother's side as well.
So now you have suddenly become a Jew? While Islam clearly always refer to the father when it comes to the origin as well as name. =_=!...but i guess you know better than Islam and Allah who has created people right ;).
format_quote Originally Posted by
anatolian
Again no. Ottomans were just a dynasty coming from the Kayı Tribe of Oghuz Turks. There have been several other Turkic people who migrated from Turkistan to Turkey. We are all called Turks. I have mixed ethnicity if you must know. Half Turk from paternal side and half Circassian from maternal side. This makes me half Turk ethnically but I feel fully belong to the Turkich nation. Though I am quite happy with my Circassian cultural identity. But I claim my Turkish side. But again, you dont have to come from a specific ethnicity to feel yourself from that specific nation. Ethnically you can be fully Kurdish but nationally claim Turkish and reverse. Races and nations are not same things.
Again, what your father is, that is your origin. What your "half" ethnicity is of the other side doesn't matter. If that was the case, you MUST have also adopted your mothers name as well, but that is NOT the case in Islam, AS WELL as here in the west. So try and try and try, it is futile.
What you "FEEL" is irrelevant. Some people they FEEL like they are a woman (born as a man), but that doesn't mean it is right and true. It is rather the case that those guys are a bit faulty in the upper chamber. Nationalism, is a concept that is invented by human beings. THIS exact thing in Islam we were warned about to NOT pursue. However you like a sheep blindly follow and you are even PROUD of it. But be my guest, as that will not really help you AT ALL when you are in your grave.
So to sum up, indeed nations and races are NOT the same. Race is the gift of Allah, while nationalities are the curse invented by human beings that create this evil we see today in many countries. But yeah you like many Turks are to blind to see that, however Allah is the all knowing, all seeing and the all wise. For single every thing has it's appointed time not a second sooner or a second later.
format_quote Originally Posted by
anatolian
You mention and promote your Kurdishness in most of your posts. There are several different types of nationalism and this makes you "a kind of" nationalist. Not that I blame you with it. I dont discredit nationalism. I am a Turkish nationalist myself. But you are the one who demonize nationalism but yet do it at the same time.
You are too blind to see the line between nationalism and the gift given by Allah. Me mentioning that i am a Kurd, when it comes to a discussion about Turks..as i am NOT a Arab, NOT a Turk, NOT a Persian. This needs to be thrown in the face of people like you. When it comes to MAN-MADE Sykes–Picot, i am NOT a Turk, NOT a Arab, NOT a Persian..that again NEEDS to be thrown in the face of people like you. When some dish is mentioned once again mentioned you being a Kurd as Kurds have some dishes and also this needs to be mentioned to know the origin of some dish. Not because of feeling all nationalistic about it, but when thieves around you take EVERYTHING that originated or is part of your culture that is given by Allah one needs to stand up and repeat it again. In the past i have told you a LOT of times about that there is all those people coming from regions nearby and branding themselves Turks, while they are not Turks whatsoever. You try to twist things, because of dishonesty. When we talked about the dishes about Yaprag/Dolma and me mentioning it..i gave you reasons why most probably it was Greek..you kept silent. Because i mentioned changing name doesn't mean it suddenly originated from the Turks.
Have i promoted Kurdish flag? Absolutely NOT. As that is part of the nationalism that i reject. Have i promoted certain certain Kurdish party..?? Nope, as the only party i promoted were YPG and PKK, as exactly those two groups have been dealing with terrorist states like Turks and Arabs. Did i agree with their philosophy? Nope..based on what do i agree with them? I agree with them based on fighting oppression. Have i done more than that? Nope. Have i promoted a independent Kurdistan? Yes, based on certain condition. If NO REAL Islamic Caliphate will rise, than choosing between two evil, it is better to have a independent Kurdistan, than to be ruled by hypocrites and oppressors. What more have i done that is NOT according to what Allah has given me? You CANNOT try to twist things and make something Allah has given (in the next aya) as something pure based on nationalism.
"O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and
made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." Qur'an 49:13
I do not and have never felt superior based on culture or language. As the ONLY language that is superior to other languages is Arabic. Kurdish doesn't come near it, Turkish doesn't come near it..English is even much much further away from it. You also cannot accuse me of insulting other cultures or languages. The ONLY thing that i have criticized is the lies invented by people who call themselves Muslims but lie for the sake of nationalism. That is why i also put you on your place when we were talking about dishes and you came with Turkish Kitchen, which i corrected you instantly what was Turkish and what not.
format_quote Originally Posted by
anatolian
If we are the easiest that's perfect :)
Turks now a days people can not be evaded anymore. From helping ISIS, to attacking Kurds, to using Arabs to fight Kurds, to using ISIS fighting Kurds, to making deals with Israel (which is being paid for stealing resources and Turkey helping with it for own benefit) but criticizing others for doing so. For saying US are evil, but in the mean time being part of NATO and much more. The hypocrisy everybody is seeing and nobody is too blind to NOT see.
That is why they are so easy to use as example as everybody instantly will understand what i try to say.