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Singularity
06-11-2017, 09:12 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...n-11210927.php
Anti-Muslim law protesters meet opposition at Santa Clara rally
By Sarah Ravani Updated 4:26 pm, Saturday, June 10, 2017

Alice Hoagland, whose son, Mark Bingham, died in the 9/11 attacks, protests Shariah law with demonstrators in Santa Clara. Photo: Mason Trinca, Special To The Chronicle
Photo: Mason Trinca, Special To The Chronicle
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Alice Hoagland clutched an American flag and screamed, “No Shariah in the USA.” She was joined by a few dozen other protesters in an anti-Shariah rally Saturday at Stevens Creek Boulevard and Winchester Avenue in Santa Clara — one of a number of rallies nationwide.
Hoagland’s calls were quickly drowned out by chants of “No justice, no fear, immigrants are welcome here,” from across the street at Stevens Creek and Santana Row in San Jose, where a “Unity rally” had been organized in protest of the anti-Shariah rally.
ACT for America, which organized the anti-Shariah rallies, is a nonprofit that bills itself as “the (National Rifle Association) of national security.” The group argues that Shariah, the Islamic law code, “is incompatible with Western democracy and the freedoms it affords.” The organization is designated as the nation’s largest grassroots anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Hoagland, 67, said she doesn’t hate all Muslims, but that the flood of Islam into the U.S. is something to be feared.
“All I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11,” the Los Gatos resident said. “I lost my son on 9/11. How broad-minded am I expected to be?”
Hoagland’s son, Mark Bingham, was aboard United Airlines Flight 93 when it crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pa., after a group of passengers attempted to retake the plane from hijackers.
Hoagland said her son had plenty of Muslim friends and that she didn’t know if her son would approve of her presence at the anti-Shariah rally, but “I’m standing here.”
Standing nearby, Jack Smith, 20, waved a “Trump, Make America Great Again” sign. He was surrounded by people in red “Make America Great Again” hats and “Pro-Life” T-shirts.
The San Jose resident said he didn’t care if Muslims moved to the United States as long as they were properly vetted and would “conform to an American society.”
However, he had issues with the number of people he said were advocating for Shariah law, though he didn’t list any examples. And that wasn’t his only concern.
“Can you name one Christian country that’s throwing gays off rooftops?” he said. “Do you support women’s rights and gays rights?”
A Muslim man and several women in hijab came over with a box of store-bought cookies, offering it to the anti-Shariah protesters.


Most of the rally participants didn’t take them up on the offer.
They were met with signs that read, “Sharia (sic) Law Mutilates Little Girls” and “Women Are Bought and Sold As Slaves.”
Across the street, a large contingency from the Unity rally held signs that read “Everyone is created equal in the image of God” and “We all belong here. We will defend each other.”
They outnumbered the group of anti-Shariah law protesters and took up the entire sidewalk that led up to the entrance of Santana Row, a sprawling upscale shopping center in San Jose.
The Unity rally was organized by a Presbyterian minister and was co-sponsored by more than 100 other civil rights and interfaith groups including the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Meet a Muslim and Multifaith Voices for Peace and Justice.
The different groups kept to their sides, with a few stragglers from the anti-Shariah law side coming over and waving a “Sharia Law Opposes the Constitution” sign before hurrying back to their side. The rallies were both peaceful, police said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/marches-a...070332450.html

U.S.Rallies against Islamic law draw counter-protests across US

GENE JOHNSON,Associated Press 12 hours ago

SEATTLE (AP) — Demonstrations against Islamic law Saturday in cities across the U.S. drew counter-protests by people who said they stoked unfounded fears and a distorted view of the religion.Hundreds marched through downtown Seattle, banging drums, cymbals and cowbells behind a large sign saying "Seattle stands with our Muslim neighbors." Participants chanted "No hate, no fear, Muslims are welcome here" on their way to City Hall, while a phalanx of bicycle police officers separated them from an anti-Shariah rally numbering in the dozens.In front of the Trump building in downtown Chicago, about 30 people demonstrated against Islamic law and in favor of President Donald Trump, shouting slogans and holding signs that read "Ban Sharia" and "Sharia abuses women." About twice as many counter-protesters marshaled across the street.A similar scene played out in a park near a New York courthouse, where counter-protesters sounded air-horns and banged pots and pans in an effort to silence an anti-Shariah rally."The theme of today is drowning out racism," said counter-protester Tony Murphy, standing next to demonstrators with colorful earplugs. "The more racists get a platform, the more people get attacked."Michigan Anti-Muslim Law Protest Met by Counter ProtestersThe March Against Sharia Law was met by counter protesters in Lansing, Michigan, on Saturday, June 10. The two protests were held near a highway exit ramp with the two sides coming face to face before police separated the groups.

ACT for America was sponsoring the March Against Sharia Law in more than a dozen cities across the country, including New York, Austin, Chicago, and Seattle. In many cases, they were met by counter protesters, including those from socialist and anarchist groups. Antifa, an anti-fascist group, was present at many of the counter protests.The rallies, held in more than two dozen U.S. cities, were organized by ACT for America, which claims Islamic law is incompatible with Western democracy.The organization said it opposes discrimination and supports the rights of those subject to Shariah. However, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, calls it the largest American anti-Muslim group."I don't believe Islam can peacefully co-exist with the Constitution," said Seattle anti-Shariah demonstrator Aaron Bassford, 29. "I'm not going to tell them they can come here and take away my Second Amendment right. We need unity in this country under no ideology and no banner except the Constitution of the United States of America."But the overwhelming majority of Muslims don't want to replace U.S. law with Islamic law, known as Shariah, and only "radical extremist groups" would call for that, said Liyakat Takim, a professor of Islamic studies at McMaster University in the Canadian city of Hamilton, Ontario.Shariah, Takim said, refers to guidelines or principles — how Muslims should live. "Fiqh" refers to jurisprudence, or specific laws. The values embedded in Shariah do not change and are shared among Muslims, he said, while fiqh is open to interpretation and change, and in fact differs among Islamic sects and communities.

"The Quran allows slavery, so does the Old Testament. That doesn't mean we allow it today, too," Takim said. "Laws are amenable to change."The marches come amid a rise in reports of anti-Muslim incidents in the U.S., including arson attacks and vandalism at mosques, harassment of women wearing Muslim head coverings and bullying of Muslim schoolchildren.In St. Paul, Minnesota, the demonstrations were mostly peaceful until some people leaving a rally inside the Capitol encountered counter-protesters outside.A confrontation that included shoving and punching occurred, The Star Tribune reported. The Minnesota State Patrol separated the groups and appeared to make at least one arrest.In California, small but raucous demonstrations were held in a handful of cities, including San Bernardino, where a husband and wife inspired by the Islamic State group killed 14 people and wounded 22 in a 2015 shooting attack.Clusters of protesters and counter-protesters gathered on four corners of an intersection at a memorial to the slain. Anti-Islamic law demonstrators marched past the building where the shootings occurred.Denise Zamora, 39, of Upland said the group wasn't opposed to all Muslims. "We're anti-Shariah. We're anti-radicals," she said."It's coming in very slowly, and a lot of the refugees are bringing that ideology here," Zamora said of Shariah. "All of it is just barbaric."No arrests were made at the San Bernardino rally, and there were no reports of violence, police spokeswoman Eileen Hards said.But it was noisy, with groups chanting, yelling and waving American flags and posters proclaiming various causes."There's an anti-Trump, a pro-Trump, anti-extremists, so there are a variety of messages here," Hards said. "There are so many messages going on that I'm not sure who's who."___

Associated Press writers Andrew Selsky in Portland, Oregon; Deniz Cam in New York; Jeff Karoub in Detroit; Kimberlee Kruesi in Boise, Idaho; Robert Jablon in Los Angeles; and Michael Tarm in Chicago contributed to this report.
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MuhammadHamza1
06-11-2017, 02:35 PM
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Indefinable
06-11-2017, 03:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Singularity
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...n-11210927.php
Anti-Muslim law protesters meet opposition at Santa Clara rally
By Sarah Ravani Updated 4:26 pm, Saturday, June 10, 2017

Alice Hoagland, whose son, Mark Bingham, died in the 9/11 attacks, protests Shariah law with demonstrators in Santa Clara. Photo: Mason Trinca, Special To The Chronicle
Photo: Mason Trinca, Special To The Chronicle
.


Alice Hoagland clutched an American flag and screamed, “No Shariah in the USA.” She was joined by a few dozen other protesters in an anti-Shariah rally Saturday at Stevens Creek Boulevard and Winchester Avenue in Santa Clara — one of a number of rallies nationwide.
Hoagland’s calls were quickly drowned out by chants of “No justice, no fear, immigrants are welcome here,” from across the street at Stevens Creek and Santana Row in San Jose, where a “Unity rally” had been organized in protest of the anti-Shariah rally.
ACT for America, which organized the anti-Shariah rallies, is a nonprofit that bills itself as “the (National Rifle Association) of national security.” The group argues that Shariah, the Islamic law code, “is incompatible with Western democracy and the freedoms it affords.” The organization is designated as the nation’s largest grassroots anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Hoagland, 67, said she doesn’t hate all Muslims, but that the flood of Islam into the U.S. is something to be feared.
“All I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11,” the Los Gatos resident said. “I lost my son on 9/11. How broad-minded am I expected to be?”
Hoagland’s son, Mark Bingham, was aboard United Airlines Flight 93 when it crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pa., after a group of passengers attempted to retake the plane from hijackers.
Hoagland said her son had plenty of Muslim friends and that she didn’t know if her son would approve of her presence at the anti-Shariah rally, but “I’m standing here.”
Standing nearby, Jack Smith, 20, waved a “Trump, Make America Great Again” sign. He was surrounded by people in red “Make America Great Again” hats and “Pro-Life” T-shirts.
The San Jose resident said he didn’t care if Muslims moved to the United States as long as they were properly vetted and would “conform to an American society.”
However, he had issues with the number of people he said were advocating for Shariah law, though he didn’t list any examples. And that wasn’t his only concern.
“Can you name one Christian country that’s throwing gays off rooftops?” he said. “Do you support women’s rights and gays rights?”
A Muslim man and several women in hijab came over with a box of store-bought cookies, offering it to the anti-Shariah protesters.


Most of the rally participants didn’t take them up on the offer.
They were met with signs that read, “Sharia (sic) Law Mutilates Little Girls” and “Women Are Bought and Sold As Slaves.”
Across the street, a large contingency from the Unity rally held signs that read “Everyone is created equal in the image of God” and “We all belong here. We will defend each other.”
They outnumbered the group of anti-Shariah law protesters and took up the entire sidewalk that led up to the entrance of Santana Row, a sprawling upscale shopping center in San Jose.
The Unity rally was organized by a Presbyterian minister and was co-sponsored by more than 100 other civil rights and interfaith groups including the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Meet a Muslim and Multifaith Voices for Peace and Justice.
The different groups kept to their sides, with a few stragglers from the anti-Shariah law side coming over and waving a “Sharia Law Opposes the Constitution” sign before hurrying back to their side. The rallies were both peaceful, police said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/marches-a...070332450.html

U.S.Rallies against Islamic law draw counter-protests across US

GENE JOHNSON,Associated Press 12 hours ago

SEATTLE (AP) — Demonstrations against Islamic law Saturday in cities across the U.S. drew counter-protests by people who said they stoked unfounded fears and a distorted view of the religion.Hundreds marched through downtown Seattle, banging drums, cymbals and cowbells behind a large sign saying "Seattle stands with our Muslim neighbors." Participants chanted "No hate, no fear, Muslims are welcome here" on their way to City Hall, while a phalanx of bicycle police officers separated them from an anti-Shariah rally numbering in the dozens.In front of the Trump building in downtown Chicago, about 30 people demonstrated against Islamic law and in favor of President Donald Trump, shouting slogans and holding signs that read "Ban Sharia" and "Sharia abuses women." About twice as many counter-protesters marshaled across the street.A similar scene played out in a park near a New York courthouse, where counter-protesters sounded air-horns and banged pots and pans in an effort to silence an anti-Shariah rally."The theme of today is drowning out racism," said counter-protester Tony Murphy, standing next to demonstrators with colorful earplugs. "The more racists get a platform, the more people get attacked."Michigan Anti-Muslim Law Protest Met by Counter ProtestersThe March Against Sharia Law was met by counter protesters in Lansing, Michigan, on Saturday, June 10. The two protests were held near a highway exit ramp with the two sides coming face to face before police separated the groups.

ACT for America was sponsoring the March Against Sharia Law in more than a dozen cities across the country, including New York, Austin, Chicago, and Seattle. In many cases, they were met by counter protesters, including those from socialist and anarchist groups. Antifa, an anti-fascist group, was present at many of the counter protests.The rallies, held in more than two dozen U.S. cities, were organized by ACT for America, which claims Islamic law is incompatible with Western democracy.The organization said it opposes discrimination and supports the rights of those subject to Shariah. However, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, calls it the largest American anti-Muslim group."I don't believe Islam can peacefully co-exist with the Constitution," said Seattle anti-Shariah demonstrator Aaron Bassford, 29. "I'm not going to tell them they can come here and take away my Second Amendment right. We need unity in this country under no ideology and no banner except the Constitution of the United States of America."But the overwhelming majority of Muslims don't want to replace U.S. law with Islamic law, known as Shariah, and only "radical extremist groups" would call for that, said Liyakat Takim, a professor of Islamic studies at McMaster University in the Canadian city of Hamilton, Ontario.Shariah, Takim said, refers to guidelines or principles — how Muslims should live. "Fiqh" refers to jurisprudence, or specific laws. The values embedded in Shariah do not change and are shared among Muslims, he said, while fiqh is open to interpretation and change, and in fact differs among Islamic sects and communities.

"The Quran allows slavery, so does the Old Testament. That doesn't mean we allow it today, too," Takim said. "Laws are amenable to change."The marches come amid a rise in reports of anti-Muslim incidents in the U.S., including arson attacks and vandalism at mosques, harassment of women wearing Muslim head coverings and bullying of Muslim schoolchildren.In St. Paul, Minnesota, the demonstrations were mostly peaceful until some people leaving a rally inside the Capitol encountered counter-protesters outside.A confrontation that included shoving and punching occurred, The Star Tribune reported. The Minnesota State Patrol separated the groups and appeared to make at least one arrest.In California, small but raucous demonstrations were held in a handful of cities, including San Bernardino, where a husband and wife inspired by the Islamic State group killed 14 people and wounded 22 in a 2015 shooting attack.Clusters of protesters and counter-protesters gathered on four corners of an intersection at a memorial to the slain. Anti-Islamic law demonstrators marched past the building where the shootings occurred.Denise Zamora, 39, of Upland said the group wasn't opposed to all Muslims. "We're anti-Shariah. We're anti-radicals," she said."It's coming in very slowly, and a lot of the refugees are bringing that ideology here," Zamora said of Shariah. "All of it is just barbaric."No arrests were made at the San Bernardino rally, and there were no reports of violence, police spokeswoman Eileen Hards said.But it was noisy, with groups chanting, yelling and waving American flags and posters proclaiming various causes."There's an anti-Trump, a pro-Trump, anti-extremists, so there are a variety of messages here," Hards said. "There are so many messages going on that I'm not sure who's who."___

Associated Press writers Andrew Selsky in Portland, Oregon; Deniz Cam in New York; Jeff Karoub in Detroit; Kimberlee Kruesi in Boise, Idaho; Robert Jablon in Los Angeles; and Michael Tarm in Chicago contributed to this report.
Anti-Shariah Protest and Muslims were offering cookies??!!!
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06-11-2017, 03:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
Anti-Shariah Protest and Muslims were offering cookies??!!!
thats the spirit of Islam!; return good for evil! :)
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Indefinable
06-11-2017, 03:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz
thats the spirit of Islam!; return good for evil! :)
Are you serious?
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AbdurRahman.
06-11-2017, 03:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
Are you serious?
Repel evil with good. And he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend.” (41:33-34)
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Indefinable
06-11-2017, 03:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz
Repel evil with good. And he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend.” (41:33-34)
Sure, in terms of da'wah. But that doesn't apply here, since they are openly mocking the deen.

A few cookies isn't going make someone accept you or your religion.
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MuhammadHamza1
06-11-2017, 06:36 PM
That woman whose son died in 9/11,
is actually supporting the ones who killed her son.
Behold how the society is brainwashed.
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AbdurRahman.
06-11-2017, 10:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
Sure, in terms of da'wah. But that doesn't apply here, since they are openly mocking the deen.

A few cookies isn't going make someone accept you or your religion.
that verse basically means, thats the way to win hearts; it's not going to happen straight away, but over time, thats the way! :)
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AbdurRahman.
06-11-2017, 11:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
Sure, in terms of da'wah. But that doesn't apply here, since they are openly mocking the deen.

A few cookies isn't going make someone accept you or your religion.
openly mocking the deen is evil right? and the verse says repel evil with good!

this is not an Islamic state to get them arrested for blasphemy etc or to fight them hence that verse applies here!; these people havn't seen the real Islam yet; all they see is terrorism hence they do this out of misunderstanding so we should show them love and kindness in return
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Indefinable
06-12-2017, 01:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz
openly mocking the deen is evil right? and the verse says repel evil with good!

this is not an Islamic state to get them arrested for blasphemy etc or to fight them hence that verse applies here!; these people havn't seen the real Islam yet; all they see is terrorism hence they do this out of misunderstanding so we should show them love and kindness in return
I disagree. There is so much wrong with your statement, I don't know where to begin.

However, I will say this - when a person doesn't see the Truth, because of their arrogance, and their ignorance, and they refuse to see it, and further mock it, then we shouldn't be offering them cookies, and trying to be their best buddy.

Try telling a Syrian or an Afghan, or an Iraqi, Chechen, Burmese, Palestinian Muslim to offer those Non Muslims cookies, who are oppressing and killing them. See what response you get then.
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Silas
06-12-2017, 01:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
I disagree. There is so much wrong with your statement, I don't know where to begin.

However, I will say this - when a person doesn't see the Truth, because of their arrogance, and their ignorance, and they refuse to see it, and further mock it, then we shouldn't be offering them cookies, and trying to be their best buddy.

Try telling a Syrian or an Afghan, or an Iraqi, Chechen, Burmese, Palestinian Muslim to offer those Non Muslims cookies, who are oppressing and killing them. See what response you get then.
A few cookies actually is a lot more effective than a hostile, or even violent response. The silly, ignorant people who were at this protest, the ones who believe that Sharia law is coming to the states, expect a violent response from Muslims, and if someone gives them that, it feeds into the stereotypes and narrative they are pushing.

We just went through three major terrorist attacks in England in less than 73 days, and when westerners see the "us vs. them" rhetoric on the Internet or on the television, it makes them think that violent jihadism and Islamic imperialism is a lot more widespread and accepted than it really is. Even putting banners or quotes on one's profile that use phrases like "Islamic soldiers" does nothing but put into the western mind that Muslims are militant.

The people protesting Sharia might have been fools, but they were not the ones "oppressing and killing" Syrians, Afghans, etc. The people of the United States are not any more collectively responsible for the actions of their government than Muslims are collectively responsible for the actions of ISIS. Most people in this country are completely against intervention in Syria, the war in Afghanistan, etc. Many also believe in a two-state solution in Israel.

Win the hearts and minds and you will win the world. I would venture to say that he who thinks only coercion and violence are the way to defend and spread Islam does not believe that the Quran can stand on its own merits, or the the message of the Prophet is "enough". A man who despairs in the inadequacy of his own faith is the one who resorts to clumsy acts of force against imaginary targets.
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Indefinable
06-12-2017, 03:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Silas
A few cookies actually is a lot more effective than a hostile, or even violent response. The silly, ignorant people who were at this protest, the ones who believe that Sharia law is coming to the states, expect a violent response from Muslims, and if someone gives them that, it feeds into the stereotypes and narrative they are pushing.

We just went through three major terrorist attacks in England in less than 73 days, and when westerners see the "us vs. them" rhetoric on the Internet or on the television, it makes them think that violent jihadism and Islamic imperialism is a lot more widespread and accepted than it really is. Even putting banners or quotes on one's profile that use phrases like "Islamic soldiers" does nothing but put into the western mind that Muslims are militant.

The people protesting Sharia might have been fools, but they were not the ones "oppressing and killing" Syrians, Afghans, etc. The people of the United States are not any more collectively responsible for the actions of their government than Muslims are collectively responsible for the actions of ISIS. Most people in this country are completely against intervention in Syria, the war in Afghanistan, etc. Many also believe in a two-state solution in Israel.

Win the hearts and minds and you will win the world. I would venture to say that he who thinks only coercion and violence are the way to defend and spread Islam does not believe that the Quran can stand on its own merits, or the the message of the Prophet is "enough". A man who despairs in the inadequacy of his own faith is the one who resorts to clumsy acts of force against imaginary targets.
I agree with you - violence isn't the way. However, if you think that Muslims have to be apologetic, and hand out cookies at an Anti-Islamic protest, then you're wrong. Why should we? No one handed me any cookies after the recent attacks, if anything, it made the situation here for us even worse.

One has to wonder where this 'us vs. them' rhetoric originated from. Who created this divide? Who made the image of Muslims as the Boogeyman to be feared? If you think it is ISIS, then that is incorrect, this has been going on long before the formation of ISIS.

No one wakes up one morning and decides to go on a killing rampage. Especially not someone in their early twenties, with their whole life ahead of them. So what causes these individuals to do just that?

You say most people are against the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, but when it really comes to it - you will defend your soldiers, right? You won't say the soldiers are terrorists, will you?

And in relation to OP - I don't think the Muslims should have offered cookies, although it does seem ideal to resolve any conflict with milk and cookies.

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Silas
06-12-2017, 03:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Indefinable
I agree with you - violence isn't the way. However, if you think that Muslims have to be apologetic, and hand out cookies at an Anti-Islamic protest, then you're wrong. Why should we? No one handed me any cookies after the recent attacks, if anything, it made the situation here for us even worse.

One has to wonder where this 'us vs. them' rhetoric originated from. Who created this divide? Who made the image of Muslims as the Boogeyman to be feared? If you think it is ISIS, then that is incorrect, this has been going on long before the formation of ISIS.

No one wakes up one morning and decides to go on a killing rampage. Especially not someone in their early twenties, with their whole life ahead of them. So what causes these individuals to do just that?

You say most people are against the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, but when it really comes to it - you will defend your soldiers, right? You won't say the soldiers are terrorists, will you?

And in relation to OP - I don't think the Muslims should have offered cookies, although it does seem ideal to resolve any conflict with milk and cookies.
The divide between Muslims and Christians/Hindus, etc. goes back 1400 years.

But if we are to point a finger at those who are creating an image of Muslims as Boogeymen to be feared, we need look no further than the Salafist/Wahhabist extremist groups and similar organizations (ISIS, the Brotherhood, etc.). Burning other Muslims alive, beheading children, committing acts of genocide against the Yazidis and Christians, selling slaves, attacking civilians in the west ..

As I mentioned in an earlier post, my father was friends with Sadat, and I watched on live TV as he was machine-gunned to death by other Muslims. I was only 10 years old.

ISIS have set a new standard for barbarism and inhuman acts that goes beyond the Nazis and Communists, and westerners wonder why more and more Muslims seem to want to join their ranks.

And you wonder why people in the US are scared?

The "us against them" rhetoric and "support the Muslims soldiers" stuff leads people to believe that Sunni Muslims covertly support the extremists. This idea that one is a Muslim and not a citizen of the US or Britain, and that he owes no allegiance to the "infidel" is problematic to say the least. Obviously, not all Muslims feel this way, but there are enough.

And as to the question of our armed forces engaging in wars that the citizens do not support, or doing things that amount to war crimes, I can tell you that a lot of people WILL denounce the troops: we do not give blanket support to the army so it can go commit atrocities. Some do, but most do not.

All of us have to accept and respect the laws, customs, and traditions of the nation we live in. Ideally, we should also have a sense of community and shared values. The Muslims who live in my area do this: they are not attacking people, spreading dangerous propaganda, apologizing for terrorists (like CAGE in Britain), or telling Muslims that they should not support the political system (as imperfect as it is). They know that to live in the west involves a certain degree of integration and even assimilation.

If the US or a European country is doing something Muslims of those nations do not like, the solution is in the ballot box. Aside from voting, social pressures, protests, etc. are other options. There are a LOT of things the US does that I do not like.

The radicals and violent jihadists want endless war in the ME, and they will use this as a justification to spread violence to western nations. The jews also like the violence because it keeps the money coming into their nation from the US, and this is why they give financial assistance to ISIS. Whenever there is a break in the action, there will be a series of suicide bombings, the US will respond with an airstrike, and the radicals will say "look, the infidel is bombing us! Time to attack them back!" I think we need to see through this charade.
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