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Amor101
Sorry. I mean U.S.A
Thanks for clarifying - wise to do so in the current climate of deceitful bait and switch.
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Amor101
Yes. But I doubt the people run the government...
You would be required to get a majority consensus on the claim that America is not run by it's people from the people of that region before using it - or prove the validity of those claims in order not to be accused as being a "conspiracy theorist" by the people of that country and the presenters of the media which they absorb, as has been done with me in the past despite showing clear testimony with logical arguments pointing to the strongest indications that the elections are engineered by the aristocracy comprising mainly of usurious loansharks..
However, if you judge with truth -and that is the correct method- you may find that the majority of the people in u.s.a accept the government and media propaganda even if passively, and don't really care to rectify it's actions in order to suit justice, and are partners in the government's actions, and who also protect the people who run the government from repercussions, and Allah knows best.
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Amor101
Yes, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan...
How is Afghanistan a country that falls within the definition of middle east?
17 countries
Bahrain
Cyprus
Egypt
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Jordan
Kuwait
Lebanon
Oman
Palestine
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Syria
Turkey
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
it was only pretended to be a part of the "greater" middle east by George Bush the second, during his illegal wars against Muslim majority populations. Do you judge by what george bush the second defines?
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Amor101
The Greater Middle East was a political term coined by the second Bush administration in the first decade of the 21st century,[25] to denote various countries, pertaining to the Muslim world, specifically Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan and Pakistan.[26] Various Central Asian countries are sometimes also included.
A just and clear definition, and not a false definition and justification is essential in matters pertaining to bloodshed - since confusion only adds to global chaos.
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Amor101
The war in Afghanistan ended 2014, and Iraq and Iran before 2014. I do not know exactly when.
A bit of background so readers know what exactly we are talking about
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the war against the people of Afghanistan was waged illegally with the reason provided being that the people of Afghanistan were not handing over to the u.s.a government - brother Usaama bin al-Ladin who was not officially wanted for the events on 11th september 2001 (including the collapse of the new york twin towers and wtc building 7) - and despite the fact that no just and truthful official investigation had even begun by 7th october 2001, and also despite the fact that the taliban chiefs whom the u.s.a government had nurtured (before it's destruction of the opium crop and banning of the opium business) was actually offering to look into the accusations if proof of a crime was provided.
President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.
Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over."
He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty". In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir - the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime - told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country".....
....But it would have to be a state that would never "come under pressure from the United States", he said.
Before the start of the air campaign, the Taliban had demanded evidence of Bin Laden's involvement in the attack and had offered to try him before an Islamic court inside Afghanistan - proposals that the US promptly rejected.
Al-Qaida warning an 'admission of guilt'
Threats of new terrorist strikes against Britain and the US from Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida group amount to an admission of guilt for the September 11 attacks, the deputy prime minister, John Prescott, said today.
Mr Prescott, speaking while on a diplomatic mission in Moscow, argued that the latest statement from al-Qaida strongly suggested Bin Laden's culpability for last month's attacks on New York and Washington.
"What I have heard about the message given ... is basically confirming, I think, the guilt of Bin Laden, who has made it clear that he wants to continue these actions," he told BBC1's Breakfast with Frost programme this morning.
The new threats from al-Qaida came from spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, in a video-taped statement broadcast on Qatar's Al-Jazeera Arabic TV news network.
He said Muslims in the US and Britain "should avoid travelling by air or living in high buildings or towers".
Americans and Britons were also warned to leave the Arabian Peninsula "because the land will burn with fire under their feet".
Washington dismissed the comments as "propaganda", while a Downing Street spokeswoman echoed Mr Prescott's comment that the threats amounted to an admission of guilt.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tan.terrorism5
Has the secularist government of the u.s.a pulled out it's fighters and military equipment from these countries? Has it made a just, islamically acceptable, treaty with the accepted leaders of those Muslim majority countries not to attack them or illegally use mercenaries and agents of illegal influence against them?
How many middle eastern Jews did the people of north central America kill?
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Amor101
I'm sorry. I do not understand.
There is a large jewish population which was initially coerced into settling in the middle east after the engineered first world war, holocaust, and second world war, and since then some more have moved there to enjoy the amenities of certain parts of al Quds provided via the secularist governments and banks in the western hemisphere and western europe .
If there was a war against the middle east, one could expect that many jews would have been killed by the u.s.a government and it's people and mercenaries - as millions of Muslim believers have been killed.
Or are you actually attempting to pretend that this is a racial issue rather than a deceitful and unlawful war against Muslims and Islaam?
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Amor101
The War is over.Things will get better I said.
I recall being told that the illegal war against the Muslims who reside in Iraq was over quite a few times, yet have noticed that multiple armed secularist u.s.a army chiefs and mercenary groups operating from there based on unjustly fabricated claims that the puppet government installed over the Muslims of iraq requested them, please clarify the facts on this claim.
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Amor101
Torture by mind control on the weak and poor.
Injustice and falsehood against Allah will undo itself.
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Amor101
U.S. was in war with middle east,
See above.
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Amor101
but I see what you mean.
What is it that you see?
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Amor101
Thanks for all your links brother. I will read them and learn more :)
May Allah the Most Just, Wise, and High guide those who seek true justice.