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fromelsewhere
06-29-2017, 03:33 PM
Obviously, there are good reasons to hate ISIS dogs. But what I have just heard here makes my hair stand on end. I hope this is not a true story, but then, how can you invent such a story? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7811216.html
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Serinity
06-29-2017, 03:55 PM
you shouldn't spread stories you don't know are authentic.

I am 99% sure this is fake news. I do not believe these news.

And Allah :swt: knows best.
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sister herb
06-29-2017, 05:14 PM
Majority of us here don´t support daesh but there is no need to try to make evil to super evil. I am sure that the western media will have a lot of similar stories and, unfortunately, part of their readers don´t make any different between daesh and Islam.
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DanEdge
06-29-2017, 05:19 PM
Snopes says "Probably False." One report, second hand, no verification.
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MuhammadHamza1
06-29-2017, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by fromelsewhere
Obviously, there are good reasons to hate ISIS dogs. But what I have just heard here makes my hair stand on end. I hope this is not a true story, but then, how can you invent such a story? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7811216.html
The news source is Indepent news network.
This is a mainstream channel which has time and time again proven that it is a disinformation channel.
This is a pro zionist network just like CNN,BBC,NBC,VOX,VICE etc.
Hence,do not trust this news network.
If you are looking for real news,
Following channels may help on Youtube.
1)-The Corbett Report.
2)-Tyranny Unmasked.
3)-RT.
On a side not.
Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson,
Are also disinformation agents.
Do not watch them.
Especially Alex Jones.
He knows Mind Control very well.
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najimuddin
06-29-2017, 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by fromelsewhere
Obviously, there are good reasons to hate ISIS dogs. But what I have just heard here makes my hair stand on end. I hope this is not a true story, but then, how can you invent such a story? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7811216.html
** Here's how **

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/15/op...itol-hill.html

Deception on Capitol Hill


Published: January 15, 1992

It's plainly wrong for a member of Congress to collaborate with a public relations firm to produce knowingly deceptive testimony on an important issue. Yet Representative Tom Lantos of California has been caught doing exactly that. His behavior warrants a searching inquiry by the House Ethics Committee.

Mr. Lantos is co-chairman of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus. An article last week on The Times's Op-Ed page by John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine, revealed the identity of a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl who told the caucus that Iraqi soldiers had removed scores of babies from incubators and left them to die.

The girl, whose testimony helped build support for the Persian Gulf war, was identified only as "Nayirah," supposedly to protect family members still in Kuwait. Another piece of information was also withheld: that she is not just some Kuwaiti but the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S.

Saddam Hussein committed plenty of atrocities, but not, apparently, this one. The teen-ager's accusation, at first verified by Amnesty International, was later refuted by that group as well as by other independent human rights monitors. But the issue is not so much the accuracy of the testimony as the identity and undisclosed bias of the witness.

How did the girl's testimony come about? It was arranged by the big public relations firm of Hill & Knowlton on behalf of a client, the Kuwaiti-sponsored Citizens for a Free Kuwait, which was then pressing Congress for military intervention. Mr. Lantos knew the girl's identity but concealed it from the public and from the other caucus co-chairman, Representative John E. Porter of Illinois.

Mr. Lantos says that the fact that Nayirah is the Ambassador's daughter did not alter her credibility. That doesn't wash. Had her identity been known, her accusations surely would have faced greater skepticism and been questioned more closely. Mr. Porter isn't angered that he was misled. But his complacency is far less troubling than Mr. Lantos's lack of candor and lapse of judgment.

The episode also calls into question the dubious financial dealings of the House caucus system. Unlike Congressional committees, which act on legislation, the caucuses bring together like-minded members to highlight issues like human rights abuses, the environment and minority concerns.

Current rules prohibit the caucuses from accepting private donations or government grants. But the caucuses often have close ties to companion nonprofit "foundations" or "institutes" that attract funds from special interests. Caucus leaders often play a central role in these foundations.

Until recently, for example, Mr. Lantos and Mr. Porter headed the Congressional Human Rights Foundation. It rents space in Hill & Knowlton's Washington headquarters at a reduced rate. The same Citizens for a Free Kuwait that produced the mysterious Nayirah also gave $50,000 to the foundation sometime after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. The foundation has financed caucus travel, including trips by Mr. Lantos and his wife.

Chances are that Congress would have voted to pursue the war even without this deception. Still, it's disappointing that Mr. Lantos, a tiger in pursuing low ethical standards at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, has turned into such a house pet.

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sister herb
06-29-2017, 06:24 PM
I still remember how they showed this testimony of "Kuwaiti girl" in the TV. People were shocked and furious and started to talk how terrible all Iraqis are and soon they also talked that "all Arabs are like this", ruthless monsters. And then, when news revealed the truth about this testimony, people had already lost their interest to this situation and didn´t notice the news at all.

At that time, Islam wasn´t the enemy number one in the West. It was so short time from the collapse of the USSR (the former enemy number one) that the West hadn´t found new enemy yet. But soon it found it - us.
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Abz2000
06-29-2017, 10:00 PM
https://citizenbfk.files.wordpress.c...falsestory.jpg

It's haraam to slander people knowingly with horrendous lies,
It is haraam to eat or feed others human flesh
It is haraam to have haraam sexual relationships
It is haraam to set people up to do haraam acts with the aim of leading them astray from the path of Allah.


لَا يُسْأَلُ عَمَّا يَفْعَلُ وَهُمْ يُسْأَلُونَ
021:023

He (Allah) cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they (people) will be questioned


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May Allah assist those who strive sincerely for the establishment of true justice (Islaam) whilst seeking Allah's good pleasure and protect them from the machinations of shaytaan (the leader of sin) and from the slanders of iblees (the leader of sin) and his allies.
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Bobbyflay23
06-30-2017, 12:37 AM
They could've lied to the mother I know there Isis but I don't think any human would ever feed a 1 year old baby to there mother
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Zafran
06-30-2017, 02:08 AM
salaam

Isis have done many things but some stories seem to be fake propaganda news - 1 no way of verifying it 2 - the story seems unbelievable.

Just look at trump and the media - its beyond absurd.

On the Iraq war with Tony Blair lying or exaggerating about WMD - or the Hillsborough disaster in the UK or Brexit and the media. Lets not even get started on Buzzfeed, the daily mail or state television of many countries.
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azc
06-30-2017, 08:39 AM
Originally Posted by fromelsewhere
Obviously, there are good reasons to hate ISIS dogs. But what I have just heard here makes my hair stand on end. I hope this is not a true story, but then, how can you invent such a story? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7811216.html
disgusting ! It's limit of cruelty

(If this news is correct)
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Mohamad2300
06-30-2017, 04:15 PM
They invaded Iraq for oil so the overthrow saddam in the process
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Mustafa16
06-30-2017, 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Abz2000
https://citizenbfk.files.wordpress.c...falsestory.jpg

It's haraam to slander people knowingly with horrendous lies,
It is haraam to eat or feed others human flesh
It is haraam to have haraam sexual relationships
It is haraam to set people up to do haraam acts with the aim of leading them astray from the path of Allah.


لَا يُسْأَلُ عَمَّا يَفْعَلُ وَهُمْ يُسْأَلُونَ
021:023

He (Allah) cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they (people) will be questioned


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May Allah assist those who strive sincerely for the establishment of true justice (Islaam) whilst seeking Allah's good pleasure and protect them from the machinations of shaytaan (the leader of sin) and from the slanders of iblees (the leader of sin) and his allies.
hahahahahaha! you think ISIS cares about what is Islamic, do you?
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Mustafa16
06-30-2017, 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Serinity
you shouldn't spread stories you don't know are authentic.

I am 99% sure this is fake news. I do not believe these news.

And Allah :swt: knows best.
how are you so sure? do you support ISIS, and think they wouldn't make a mistake? lol
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Serinity
06-30-2017, 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Mustafa16
how are you so sure? do you support ISIS, and think they wouldn't make a mistake? lol
Although I disagree with ISIS things (like killing innocents, etc.), I can not imagine them stepping so low. How can someone live with such a conscience.

Innocent till proven guilty. Unless I see evidence, ISIS is innocent from this - this does not mean I support them tho, cuz I don't.

Can anyone prove this story to be true? The Media is trying to make Islam look evil to the gullible by narrating / making up stories out of thin air.

With majority disliking ISIS and hating ISIS, what the limit of ISIS is, seems to blur. This, the Media, can use to fuel the hate for Islam, by making ISIS look even more bad.
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Mustafa16
06-30-2017, 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Serinity
Although I disagree with ISIS on a lot of things, I can not imagine them stepping so low. How can someone live with such a conscience.

Innocent till proven guilty. Unless I see evidence, ISIS is innocent from this - this does not mean I support them tho, cuz I don't.
oh, ok. yeah, i see what youre saying, i guess youre right.
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