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Elcocaloca
I'm not turkish, and not too much in turkish political life. But I think Gulen was the party starter. Who else had so much power. Ofcause when attempt fell he started neglecting everything, but why I didn't hear from him in that night when everything happened.
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I'm not turkish, and not too much in turkish political life. But I think Gulen was the party starter. Who else had so much power. Ofcause when attempt fell he started neglecting everything, but why I didn't hear from him in that night when everything happened.
who else had so much power? first off, gulen condemned the coup in the strongest terms, and never cheered it on. also, gulenism was already severely weakened in turkey following this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_c...ndal_in_Turkey
and this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_N...ndal_in_Turkey
now.......gulenists did take part in the coup, but they were not the only ones to take part. kemalists also have, as shown here:
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...e-country.html also, several soldiers who led the coup were forced under torture to confess they were gulenist....as shown here:
http://theglobepost.com/2017/05/23/t...under-torture/ also, Gulen himself said the coup may have been done by some loyal to him, but that he has disowned them. furthermore, US, German, British, NATO, and EU intelligence went into Turkey and found no conclusive evidence that Gulen carried out coup:
http://theglobepost.com/2017/03/18/g...d-turkey-coup/
and others. furthermore, Putin found out about the coup and warned erdogan, likely to make erdogan turn towards russia rather than NATO. Now, why would Putin know about such a coup? well, dogu perincek, a turkish politician whose henchmen have been the main benefactor of the purges, and who has allied with erdogan, warned them. how would dogu perincek know, and then work together with erdogan? and no one paid attention to his warnings, despite his warning them numerous times before the coup. also, there is further proof the coup was staged, as alleged by gulen:
http://www.aei.org/publication/turki...e-staged-coup/
https://www.aldrimer.no/nato-insider...d-turkey-coup/
http://www.aei.org/publication/did-e...tage-the-coup/
http://www.aei.org/publication/more-...n-behind-coup/
furthermore, erdogan had every reason to stage a coup, but more on that later, first let's talk about how. hakan fidan, an intelligence officer warned about the coup, and hulusi akar, the chief of staff were at a WEDDING during the coup. that suggests it was the work of turkish intelligence and the chain of command. second, erdogan likely staged the coup due to declining support for his party, in order to consolidate his party.
EDIT: the coup was designed to fail. why would you do a coup at 9 o clock at night during rush hour traffic, and shut down the bosphourous bridge? and fire at angry crowds, and announce on ONE lesser known state owned tv station there is a coup? all other coups took place at night to ensure no loss of civilian life (coups in turkey in 1960, 1971, 1980, and 1997).