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Muslim89
07-07-2017, 02:19 PM
Salaam,

You agree that a human beeing that is possessed by Djinns and to heal this person is to recite special verses of the Qur'an. For this you need someone that is specialised, like a imam, sheikh, raqi etc.

But where I am curious about why the Djinns also react to the bible. You see many videos on YouTube that when a priest read or use the bible the Djin cannot resist it. Why is that? Like the video below.

https://youtu.be/e2AAZEvcnwQ

Reading the Qur'an should be the only way to trigger the Djin not any other book. Can someone explain this to me?
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MuhammadHamza1
07-07-2017, 03:20 PM
There are many arguments to refute such "miracles."
But let us be impartial and not make this a matter of our ego.
For Religion is not a matter of ego,but evidences.
1)-The Bible itself.
According to the Bible,Jesus said in Metthew 7:22-23:
"Many will say to me on that day,'Lord,Lord,did we not prophesy in your name,and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
Then I will tell them plainly,'I never knew you.Away from me,you evildoers!'
So how can a Christian use these "miracles' as an evidence after reading this verse?
Again,we must be impartial.
2)-We know that according to Islam,the Antichrist will perform many miracles.
But does that mean that he is the true serveant of God?Or even God?
No.
Hence,we conclude that these "miracles"are not the criterian.They are not the judge.
That is why the Quran has such a unique miracle.
It has a literary miracle.
It is not like these miracles that drive out Ghost,or strike that house with a bolt of lightning.
The Miracle of Quran is
'That a man who did not know how to write came with a book which challanges humanity to bring one like it.
A man brought a book which is not afraid of investigation or critical thinking as the two most occuring words in the Quran are "think" and "consider.
And a book which holds the answers for humanity'
Now compare the first "miracle" and the miracle of Quran.
Which one is more logical?
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MuhammadHamza1
07-07-2017, 03:21 PM
This argument was used by Jimmy Swaggart against Ahmad Deedat(May Allah have mercy on him) when all was but lost for Swaggart.
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sister herb
07-07-2017, 04:13 PM
In that video I only see hysterical woman but no evidence that jinns would be involved in this incident. How we can know this isn´t prearranged show as trying to prove something to the audience?
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azc
07-07-2017, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
Salaam,You agree that a human beeing that is possessed by Djinns and to heal this person is to recite special verses of the Qur'an. For this you need someone that is specialised, like a imam, sheikh, raqi etc. But where I am curious about why the Djinns also react to the bible. You see many videos on YouTube that when a priest read or use the bible the Djin cannot resist it. Why is that? Like the video below.https://youtu.be/e2AAZEvcnwQReading the Qur'an should be the only way to trigger the Djin not any other book. Can someone explain this to me?
it appears to be a drama. Believing in such shows makes people superstitious
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Muslim89
07-07-2017, 05:55 PM
I understand that but there are plenty other videos on YouTube of possessed people that react on a priest. You can't deny that..
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MuhammadHamza1
07-08-2017, 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
I understand that but there are plenty other videos on YouTube of possessed people that react on a priest. You can't deny that..
We cannot use these videos as evidence for the truth as explained above.
I can also show you videos of Muslim imam making the mute(someone who cannot speak) able to speak again just by Quranic verses.
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sister herb
07-08-2017, 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
I understand that but there are plenty other videos on YouTube of possessed people that react on a priest. You can't deny that..
We can´t deny that in internet has a plenty of any kind of videos but nobody knows are they true or not. How we could to be sure that those whose seem to be under the control of jinn (possessed) are not actors. Also I think it´s needed a specialists to say if there is jinns or not, just like you need a doctor to make the right diagnosis if you get ill. Layman can´t do it.
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happymuslim
07-09-2017, 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
Salaam,

You agree that a human beeing that is possessed by Djinns and to heal this person is to recite special verses of the Qur'an. For this you need someone that is specialised, like a imam, sheikh, raqi etc.

But where I am curious about why the Djinns also react to the bible. You see many videos on YouTube that when a priest read or use the bible the Djin cannot resist it. Why is that? Like the video below.

https://youtu.be/e2AAZEvcnwQ

Reading the Qur'an should be the only way to trigger the Djin not any other book. Can someone explain this to me?
I read somewhere that the jinns pretend that the priests chanting re hurting them and they pretend to leave the body when in reality it is only to keep the people tricked or something like that.
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azc
07-09-2017, 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
I understand that but there are plenty other videos on YouTube of possessed people that react on a priest. You can't deny that..
despite being a Muslim you believe in all this ?
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eesa the kiwi
07-09-2017, 09:26 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim89
I understand that but there are plenty other videos on YouTube of possessed people that react on a priest. You can't deny that..
:salams

Actually brother there is a really simple explanation

The shayateen hate mankind they want to see us go to the hellfire for eternity. Their best way of trying to achieve that is to make the son or daughter of Adam fall into shirk as it is the one sin Allah will never forgive if the person died without repentance

So when the jinn posess someone a christian for example (equally true for Hindu priests or buddhists) and the priest is called and he commits shirk by waving a cross around and invoking isa alayhi salam the jinn will leave (or pretend to leave ) the possessed person increasing the faith of those present in the shirk and kufr of the priest leading them even more astray
It's not them being forced to leave as in the case of ruqya

This is all one big trick of the shaytan
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MuhammadHamza1
07-09-2017, 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by azc
despite being a Muslim you believe in all this ?
Islam does not demand blind faith.
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azc
07-09-2017, 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by MuhammadHamza1
Islam does not demand blind faith.
very true; and what you are doing is blind faith in such videos. Even you can not be sure of these videos' authenticity. This is simply blind faith.
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MuhammadHamza1
07-09-2017, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by azc
very true; and what you are doing is blind faith in such videos. Even you can not be sure of these videos' authenticity. This is simply blind faith.
I have debunked this video in the very first reply to this video.
Look it up.
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azc
07-09-2017, 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by MuhammadHamza1
I have debunked this video in the very first reply to this video.Look it up.
correct. I misunderstood you for another user, bro
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AbdurRahman.
07-09-2017, 10:28 PM
the jinn could pretend to react to the bible to deceive the christians more
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