/* */

PDA

View Full Version : Was Islam created by Jews?



lookfortruth
07-19-2017, 09:39 PM
Hello fellow readers,
On my spiritual journey, I realized that Christianity is false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources. Studying Christianity, it is clear that it is not an original religion and is based on plagiarism. Recently I have been researching Islam, and was wondering about it's connections to other religions. According to some research I have done, Islam is a Jewish invented-religion which also relies on symbols and teachings taken from earlier sources:

What do you think of this? If Islam is a true religion, why does it borrow so much from earlier religions?
Reply

Login/Register to hide ads. Scroll down for more posts
Samiul123
07-19-2017, 09:45 PM
Dear lookfortruth,
the reason why it borrows so much from other religions is what you perceive through your angle. However, Islam is a whole religion on its own as the Quran tells. It is still true though there is a lot of similarities between and Islam and other religions being Judaism (Jewish people's faith) and Christianity, etc because the message of God was sent for the whole time before previously in revelations that there is only one God however the message of Islam is preserved through the Quran, as God promised.
Reply

STN
07-19-2017, 10:09 PM
Islam is the first and the last religion, Adam (A.S) was a Muslim and follower of Islam. You are correct the message of Islam is not new, every religion, every Prophet (A.S) until last messenger Mohammad (SAWW) preaches لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله that is There is no god but Allah. Muhammad(SAWW) is the messenger of Allah.

The only difference is those books were corrupted and modified by humans until Holy Quran which Allah has promised its protection because it is for eternity.

Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.
- Holy Quran 15:9


But of course to a Kafir and enemies of Islam, followers of Satan, they have to lie and misguide people. If the books were not corrupted, you would find the same message as is in Holy Quran, the message of Oneness of Allah (SWT) and Prophet Mohammad(SAWW).

- - - Updated - - -

Don't visit sites like those, they twist the truth to serve their agenda. Like how they twisted something we Muslims believe as something of plagiarism. This should tell you of the level of ignorance, hatred and enmity they have for Islam that the creator of that website didn't even bother to look why the holy books are so similar.

If this simple fact is twisted so much, i can't imagine the level of lies, misquotings, taking verses out of context will be on this accursed, Satan serving website.
Reply

keiv
07-19-2017, 11:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by lookfortruth
Hello fellow readers,
On my spiritual journey, I realized that Christianity is false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources. Studying Christianity, it is clear that it is not an original religion and is based on plagiarism. Recently I have been researching Islam, and was wondering about it's connections to other religions. According to some research I have done, Islam is a Jewish invented-religion which also relies on symbols and teachings taken from earlier sources:

What do you think of this? If Islam is a true religion, why does it borrow so much from earlier religions?
Nothing is being borrowed here. It's a continuation of the previous message before it got corrupted. What you see in Islam is the divine message that has existed since the beginning. What you see in Christianity and Judaism is man made.
Reply

Welcome, Guest!
Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, you can participate in the discussions and share your thoughts. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and make new friends.
Sign Up
Karl
07-19-2017, 11:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by lookfortruth
Hello fellow readers,
On my spiritual journey, I realized that Christianity is false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources. Studying Christianity, it is clear that it is not an original religion and is based on plagiarism. Recently I have been researching Islam, and was wondering about it's connections to other religions. According to some research I have done, Islam is a Jewish invented-religion which also relies on symbols and teachings taken from earlier sources:
https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpr...nt-paganism-4/

What do you think of this? If Islam is a true religion, why does it borrow so much from earlier religions?
Well Judaism didn't just pop into existence. It's roots came from the ancient pagans. Monotheism was introduced to unite the nation so the people didn't squabble over which god was best to worship. So the many gods became angels and the strongest God became the one true God. As it is written that Yahweh is a jealous God, but how can He be jealous if He is the only God? And then you have Allah which means "The God" and ilah that means just a god. But how can the word exist if there is only The God? I suppose it is a matter of semantics. Christianity is a cult as the Christians worship the prophet Jesus (PBUH) as God.
Knowledge is vast but people only need to know the Holy Quran to stay on the right path.
Reply

Zafran
07-20-2017, 12:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by lookfortruth
Hello fellow readers,
On my spiritual journey, I realized that Christianity is false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources. Studying Christianity, it is clear that it is not an original religion and is based on plagiarism. Recently I have been researching Islam, and was wondering about it's connections to other religions. According to some research I have done, Islam is a Jewish invented-religion which also relies on symbols and teachings taken from earlier sources:

What do you think of this? If Islam is a true religion, why does it borrow so much from earlier religions?
Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same God the God of Abraham pbuh. I have no idea how you came with "plagiarism" when Christianity is ultimately a religion that believes that Jesus pbuh is the messiah (foretold in the torah and a Jews) and God incarnate. The Muslims accept he is a prophet and the messiah but not God incarnate. We believe that the God of the Jews and the Christians sent the last revelation called the Quran to the prophet Muhammad pbuh to set things back to right path.

All these religions believe in One God (theism).

The link you provided is bogus because Islam does not rely on symbols.

- - - Updated - - -

format_quote Originally Posted by Karl
Well Judaism didn't just pop into existence. It's roots came from the ancient pagans. Monotheism was introduced to unite the nation so the people didn't squabble over which god was best to worship. So the many gods became angels and the strongest God became the one true God. As it is written that Yahweh is a jealous God, but how can He be jealous if He is the only God? And then you have Allah which means "The God" and ilah that means just a god. But how can the word exist if there is only The God? I suppose it is a matter of semantics. Christianity is a cult as the Christians worship the prophet Jesus (PBUH) as God.
Knowledge is vast but people only need to know the Holy Quran to stay on the right path.
Last time I checked the Jews are the children of Issac and Jacob pbut - Prophets who were sent revelations - no idea where all this pagan bogus is coming from. Its not Islamic at all. More like atheist conspiracy theories.
Reply

anatolian
07-20-2017, 04:01 AM
If Islam was created by jews it wouldnt criticise them that hard, would it? It would rather support their agenda that they are superior to other people..
Reply

sister herb
07-20-2017, 07:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian
If Islam was created by jews it wouldnt criticise them that hard, would it? It would rather support their agenda that they are superior to other people..
This is logical.
Reply

M.I.A.
07-20-2017, 12:32 PM
Ibrahim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Hanifa (Islamic Monotheism - to worship none but Allah Alone) and he was not of Al-Mushrikun (See V.2:105).

Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim; and he was not one of the polytheists.003:067-Pickthal

:

Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters.003:067-Rashad

:

Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter. He never was an idol worshiper.003:067-Sarwar

:

Abraham was not a Jew or a Christian. He was an upright person who had submitted himself to the will of God. Abraham was not a pagan.003:067-Shakir

:

Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists.003:067-Sherali

:

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian but he was ever inclined to God and obedient to HIM, and he was not of those who associate gods with ALLAH.003:067-Yusufali

:

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah
Reply

Abz2000
07-20-2017, 07:07 PM
The meaning of navi is perhaps described in Deuteronomy 18:18,[6] where God said, "...and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Thus, the navi was thought to be the "mouth" of God. The root nun-bet-alef ("navi") is based on the two-letter root nun-bet which denotes hollowness or openness; to receive transcendental wisdom, one must make oneself "open".

The Quran identifies a number of men as "Prophets of Islam" (Arabic: nabiyy نبي‎‎; pl. anbiyaa' أنبياء). Muslims believe such individuals were assigned a special mission by God (Arabic: Allah) to guide humanity. Besides Muhammad, this includes prophets such as Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses) and Isa (Jesus).

The word "Nabi" means newsbearer, and a Nabi of Allah is one who bears the news provided by Allah, chapter 78 of the Quran "an-Naba" is often translated as "the great news". Since these Anbiyaa (plural of nabi) of Allah received inspiration from the same source, it is logical that they would confirm and re-implement the most important principles which remain constant throughout the ages, and that some of the previous guidance would be amended by Allah in order to suit the age and advancement of the people, this guidance was given by Allah to tribes in the past due to the fact that humankind was still entrenched in tribal dependence.
Now that humankind is in it's final era, and Muhammad :saws: is the seal of the prophets, he was made to teach people how to unite on the values of justice alone, (and Allah :swt: the most wise is the best to proclaim what is just) the tribal structures and racism mostly began to fall apart during his ministry up until today where we find that through mass media and ease of international and intercity travel and marriage -tribal bonding has become almost useless along with the mini-fiefdom (nation state based on control of mud) structures which exist only in name, but are in actuality subject by proxy to international string pulling.

You will probably admit after watching the following presentation, that a large number of the prophets of the secularist mass media are also given words into their mouths by a common source ie. the continally cursed, corrupt international usury practicing, murderous thieves, however, the difference is that the aim of the secularist leadership is to lead humankind astray via deception from the path of truth, justice, and decency - and to the path of God's wrath:

It's a very crude edit on the phone without flashy effects or transitions skim through it if you find it too long, I couldn't cut any more footage than that without losing important content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Ju2zLEh9ZyQ


Regarding lineage, the prophet :saws: is reported to have jewish ancestry, but he was different from the type condemned in the Quran in that he wasn't racist and didn't reject the signs of Allah :swt: out of false pride.

The Prophet pbuh was part Jewish!!!
Reply

camouflagemoney
07-21-2017, 05:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by lookfortruth
Hello fellow readers,
On my spiritual journey, I realized that Christianity is false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources. Studying Christianity, it is clear that it is not an original religion and is based on plagiarism. Recently I have been researching Islam, and was wondering about it's connections to other religions. According to some research I have done, Islam is a Jewish invented-religion which also relies on symbols and teachings taken from earlier sources:

What do you think of this? If Islam is a true religion, why does it borrow so much from earlier religions?
Islam is a culmination of the one true religion. If course similar stories were told before it because they're the same stories throughout time, all coming from one universal message being taught by God and his various messengers. At least that's how I look at it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply

Karl
07-21-2017, 06:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran
Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same God the God of Abraham pbuh. I have no idea how you came with "plagiarism" when Christianity is ultimately a religion that believes that Jesus pbuh is the messiah (foretold in the torah and a Jews) and God incarnate. The Muslims accept he is a prophet and the messiah but not God incarnate. We believe that the God of the Jews and the Christians sent the last revelation called the Quran to the prophet Muhammad pbuh to set things back to right path.

All these religions believe in One God (theism).

The link you provided is bogus because Islam does not rely on symbols.

- - - Updated - - -



Last time I checked the Jews are the children of Issac and Jacob pbut - Prophets who were sent revelations - no idea where all this pagan bogus is coming from. Its not Islamic at all. More like atheist conspiracy theories.
Religions don't come out of nowhere, they are imbedded with the past, just like this script I am using, is from the ancient pagans.
To me the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is like Martin Luther. He has seen things go off the rails and he wants to put them back again.
Reply

talibilm
07-21-2017, 09:45 AM
While Judaism is well known to have started from Israel or Jacob who was the grandson of Prophet Abraham (pbuh) while Islam had started from Adam PBUh and was the Religion of all prophets as Allah sent prophets when the previous message got corrupted and thus the well known Patriach of monotheism Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who had built the Kaaba at Bacca or Mecca (even as per OT here's the proof http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...t=Jewish+mecca )

in the direction of Which Muslims face for their worship, is an enough Proof that judaism was a break away religion from Islam and All Prophets were muslims affirms this Israeli Professor on an Israeli TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLZKUuc2jk

Judaism had almost became a Polytheist religion when some of the jews took Rabbi Ezra as son of God , in the same style that misguided Christians took Jesus as the Son of God. When the Noble Quran warned the jews in this serious misguidance the Jews recouped back to Monotheism and also the Noble Quran compromised the frequent quarrels & fighting between Jews & christians since the Jews blasphemed Jesus & his Mother as unchaste untill the Noble Quran affirmed the chastity of Mary and affirmed jesus born a pure birth without male interference and HONOURED both the Jews & christians as '' The people of the book '' only after which this quarrels & fighting receded and they began to call each others Book as the old & New testaments.

So actually Islam helped both the Jews & christians but its a shame on those who forget this and blaspheme Islam.
Reply

Zafran
07-22-2017, 12:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Karl
Religions don't come out of nowhere, they are imbedded with the past, just like this script I am using, is from the ancient pagans.
To me the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is like Martin Luther. He has seen things go off the rails and he wants to put them back again.
the prophet Muhammad pbuh was like other prophets in that he had revelation. Martin Luther was just a reformer.
Reply

STN
07-22-2017, 01:27 AM
I want to add more to my reply.

Christianity is NOT false because it is based on material stolen from earlier sources, that honestly is an idiotic thing to even think of and someone who is devoid of any logic can conjure up such stupidity.

Christianity is false because they attributed lies to Allah (SWT), altered their books and attributed lies to Prophet Esa/Jesus (A.S). Injeel was a true book from Allah until those oppressors modified it and added lies in it. Both the jews and christians did this

Allah (SWT) says in Holy Quran

They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment.
So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.
Say, "Do you worship besides Allah that which holds for you no [power of] harm or benefit while it is Allah who is the Hearing, the Knowing?"
Say, "O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way."
Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed.
They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.
You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally.
And if they had believed in Allah and the Prophet and in what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them as allies; but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
- Holy Quran 5:72-81

This is why they are wrong because of the lies they've attributed to Allah (Nauzbillah).

The Holy Quran confirms the book of jews and christians that they were indeed from Allah(SWT) before they were modified by these oppressors.

Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.
- Holy Quran 5:44

And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.
- Holy Quran 5:46-48

Their books told them of the coming of Prophet Mohammad(SAWW) but they modified it and they also don't believe in it.

This is why they are false and wrong and Islam is the religion to follow for the Holy Quran is and will be the only holy book of guidance for people until eternity because Allah has promised its protection.

You are not in search of truth but you are getting more misguided and on the path of Shaytaan if those are the websites you are believing and getting guidance from. I strongly suggest you to think about the path you're taking. Look at the logo that website has put (Nauzbillah) and look at what path it has taken you on.

May Allah guide us to the right path, Ameen

Note: Any errors are mine and mine alone, i am tired and i have checked the references of Holy Quran several times so InshaAllah they should be correct but if there is any mistake or error, it is from me and please refer to the Holy Quran yourself. May Allah forgive my mistakes, Ameen
Reply

Karl
07-22-2017, 02:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran
the prophet Muhammad pbuh was like other prophets in that he had revelation. Martin Luther was just a reformer.
We will never know, as he was considered an instrument of the devil by the Roman Catholic Church, he my have been too frightened to speak of any revelations, because he would have been burned at the stake for "witchcraft". Joan of Arc had revelations and look what happened to her.
Reply

Hey there! Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, you can participate in the discussions and share your thoughts. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and make new friends.
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 461
    Last Post: 10-08-2010, 03:24 PM
  2. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 03-02-2009, 05:14 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-08-2006, 03:21 AM
British Wholesales - Certified Wholesale Linen & Towels | Holiday in the Maldives

IslamicBoard

Experience a richer experience on our mobile app!