Originally Posted by anatolian
Funny thing is, just recenctly Selahattin Demirtas released a letter that talked about Erdogan already have branded him as a terrorist, while the trial has not even ended. This indeed showed much "bias" leaning as the trial being unfair to begin with. I however based on just observation that Erdogan will be the cause of collapse of Turkey. As a Kurd i can tell you with experience is the weakest link for example with Kurds is, we do not have unity. What made Turks stronger, was they had the unity what Kurds did not have. Erdogan is doing exactly that thing that breaks the unity. Gulen supporters hate Erdogan en kemalists, kemalists hate Erdogan and Gulen, Erdogan hates Gulen and Kemalists. There is also NOTHING that one can even think of it, that will wipe this disunity. It ONLY is resulting in to civil war, just matter of time.
About Gulen behind the coup, they being in the army or high position, i am not denying that. Because that was simply a FACT. However what i do is i analyze the coup and based on the observations i ask questions. To give you a few.
- The coup was VERY VERY SLOPPY. Sloppy is even softly expressed. When a coup is attempted there is a CLEAR plan to take hostage person X, Y and Z, building A, B, C know were they are etc. etc. This didn't happen in the slightest.
- Within a VERY small amount of time they already came with LISTS of people as these are part of Gulen and thus terrorists. What logic says is, it NEEDS time to process who is who and put the names on paper so to say. But all the names were already "printed" you could say, so those guys could be prosecuted. This doesn't make sense if it was a real coup.
- Another thing is if a coup was going on, the leader that the coup was going against, would rather sit out until it was safe. While he rather already within the same day or hours i believe returned..this doesn't make sense.
So as a conclusion i am saying, this is very fishy. It rather looks like a staged coup so it makes it very easy to clean the country of people who MIGHT be double agents. The results of the investigation also, don't really look like they will say what are the facts. Why? Because when somebody is already being branded a terrorist, while the investigation is not done, well you know already what is gonna happen.
About the video of "anti-Turkish" propaganda. Turkish is one thing, Turkish army/politics is another thing. This video is rather aimed at Turkish army/politics. Because right now many things happen and it looks like things are being accepted.
For the sake of argument lets say that video is fake indeed. It is a lie and they are trying to twist things in such a way to make the Turks look bad. The question is why? Why would they do that right? I mean if we talk about Kurds (YPG), well it is clear, now is the question why would the Arabs that do not live in Kurdish areas want to make the Turks look bad? Because that guy in the video, doesn't really look like a pro-Assad guy, so that means he is either pro-ISIS or pro-rebels/FSA. We know in both of the cases of ISIS and FSA, Turkey has supported them both in the past. That is a fact, you cannot deny that.
Now what has Turkey done, that such a video would be released to want to make the Turks look bad? All i can conclude is Turkey(politics/army) turning their back on the people that they were helping before. Why would Turkey do such a thing is the next question. It comes down to their OWN POLITICAL INTERESTS not really interests of others although they might be oppressed by groups like Assad.
So even IF we for the sake of argument say yes this is propaganda and we both might agree to that, other questions arise or better said clarity comes to find reasons why such a propaganda might be revealed.
Now, either way, be it a propaganda video or not a propaganda video, it shows something that we rather might ponder about the Turks ..aka Turkish politcs/army aka Erdogan.
So what does this conclude so to say? It says rather, do NOT trust the Turks, as they have no principles. All they care is about their own political interests, not about oppression.