Originally Posted by M.I.A.
Somebody being with or without knowledge does not matter, the ones that do possess the knowledge through the filter of Allah the one with less knowledge no damage is done to them and their right is given in full. The nationalism is based on corruption.
To give you an example. Poor people in the western country that i live in, have rights on MANY MANY MANY benefits to help them and support them their living. Although the country itself has every bit of information about their living condition, those people just have to call and ask about those benefits, however when one is NOT aware of those benefits, they live a hard life as poor people in a rich country. This is when the knowledgeable prey on the people without knowledge. In Islam we know that what we do not know, we go to the scholars, however if we even do not know something our rights are still given by the people who do know. So if this is what you mean by the knowledgeable and the ones without knowledge.
Or in the current perspective of nationalism, people who are not aware of nationalism rather might be bad/forbidden, the people in power are not only preventing them to know but also actively promote this filthy idea which rather divides people instead of unites people if you ask me. Because what brings us together so to say is love for a piece of land which logically comes down to..as you used the Kashmir example. However love for EVERYTHING that is tangible is BOUND to lose it's power. Whatever is NOT tangible, is not bound to the materialistic world. Islam makes this sub'han'Allah so beautiful firm that makes one just speechless. If a country might be invaded so to say and the people even might forget it belonged to their forefathers once in the history (thus belongs to them), what unites is still the untangle thing of the unseen that cannot be taken from you.
Just pick up some Muslims and put them on the North pole so to say. You will see they WILL create civilization on a desert land as North pole with rulings, houses of worship, construction of a community, law etc. Nationalism is based on large group of people to make something realistic on certain piece of LAND that they have made it theirs, while even 10 Muslims can create a united community based on things that cannot be taken away even if they would flee that piece of land.
Islam is like water, you cut off small piece of water from the big mass of water, you create a little pool. To "extinguish" that water, dirt is thrown on it, which still does not extinguish, rather it creates mud. In other words tainted ..this is exactly what you see now a days (culture-Islam, nationalism-Islam). As western powers have tried to extinguish Islam from the hearts of people by throwing mud on top (nationalism) and sheytan also throwing mud on top (culture). When more CLEAR water comes on top of it, this new water clears the mud more, but it is still tainted, although it has become much better than mud itself. When Islamic guidance itself comes to people (culture-Muslims, nationalism-Muslims) they themselves become a very small pool by themselves (strangers in society). The "guidance" of nationalism MUST be thought by people (parents, people, community etc.), Islamic guidance however is NOT thought by the people, rather given by Allah, which doesn't require any place you have to be or be with certain people. Look at Ibrahim(as), surrounded by statue worshipers, but guidance came from the unseen.
You can see the guidance VERY clearly when looking at elderly people in villages in the past who couldn't read nor write. They yet were very wise and intelligent people (guidance coming from the unseen).
I also sub'han'Allah noticed this with the Jews that immigrated to Israel. The Jews (although majority of them atheist now), said that the government of Israel was planning to unite the Jews under 1 mentality and 1 culture (Jewish culture/zionism), however many were laughing about it saying it didn't really work at all. This reminded me of this aya..SUB'HAN'ALLAH..
"O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted."
I mean sub'han'Allah they were the EXCELLENT example. Many still spoke a bit of their own original language, ate the food of their culture they came from, still practices some kind of cultural habits like clothing etc., didn't look anything a like. With Kurdish Jews i could CLEARLY see they were Kurds by ethnicity, while the European Jews i could also see they were from a western ethnicity.
Anyways, no matter how you look at things, Islam cannot be extinguish by invading or taking away land. An idea can be extinguished if the right people are killed, but how can you kill Allah when He is the one giving the idea to His servants? It is a battle that cannot be won and it is a battle that by definition (Allah - with no beginning and no end
) is already decided. How many people that associated themselves with certain empire (also nationalism) still exist? Many of the countries of today are NOT older than couple hundreds of years old.
Christianity has been tainted to such a degree that it has been disarmed although small pockets still exist that still follow 1 God not trinity, Judaism the same as Zionism has rather broken Judaism and also with this very small pockets still exist that live according to Judaism. Which Islam with primary lines of guidance still is steadfast, with all their data gathering to know who is a Muslim and who isn't, the people even working for such agencies can be guided by Allah and thus work against them. With Islam however what I have observed Allah is replacing many Muslims with new Muslims.
"Here you are - those invited to spend in the cause of Allah - but among you are those who withhold [out of greed]. And whoever withholds only withholds [benefit] from himself; and Allah is the Free of need, while you are the needy. And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; then they will not be the likes of you.
" Qur'an 47:38
No worries if we look at it from this perspective as long as we try to keep us on the right path. Culture Muslims and nationalism Muslims either become guided or they leave Islam all together.
Sub'han'Allah walhamdulillah wala ilaha ill Allah wallahu akbar