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Dania16
10-08-2017, 02:16 PM
I want to know what the world think about Islam ? is it peaceful ? or violent ?
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M.I.A.
10-08-2017, 02:22 PM
Lol depends on who you ask.

Ask in the wrong place.. and you will recieve an answer not too your liking.

You cant keep everyone happy.
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Imo the world has never been a peaceful place.

Although we express ourselves where we can.
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I can put confidence into my hands but it only ever lead me to understand the deficiency within my mouth..

You might aswell be asking if god is peaceful.

You can only ever take the bull by the horns as they say.


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Dania16
10-08-2017, 02:47 PM
it would be nice if islamophobia think like that & don't blame for every situation ^^
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Supernova
10-08-2017, 02:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dania16
I want to know what the world think about Islam ? is it peaceful ? or violent ?
Hmmm
The fact that you posted that on a forum that has mostly Muslims on it - you do realise that no one is going to say its violent right ?

I mean Hmmm...You really never think this through have you?
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Dania16
10-08-2017, 02:56 PM
so can you help me where can I get the answer , I want it to my research & thank you later
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sister herb
10-08-2017, 04:12 PM
For getting answer you have to read articles about people´s opinions about Islam and Muslims, and also researces and result of the polls. Can you delimit your target like what people are thinking about Islam in your country or in the Western world or in some ethnic or religious group (like what Christians in the West think or what Hindus in India are thinking)?
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Captain Howdy
11-19-2017, 05:29 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dania16
it would be nice if islamophobia think like that & don't blame for every situation ^^
You are blamed from the obvious fact that you demand rights when in minority and demand Shariah as soon as you get equal to kafir population . You do build mosques and preach your religion freely in kafir lands but you dont allow us to preach ours in yours own land .
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M.I.A.
11-19-2017, 11:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
You are blamed from the obvious fact that you demand rights when in minority and demand Shariah as soon as you get equal to kafir population . You do build mosques and preach your religion freely in kafir lands but you dont allow us to preach ours in yours own land .

..surely this is a testament to your openness and acceptance!!

..how pure of heart and sincere you were to allow such conduct!!

I..

Am..

Joking..

Given the chance to show your "better" side.. im not sure how you would fair.

But rejoice! Trump heads america!

Yes, i live in a western country.. within a mile of me are at least 7 churches, 7 mosques and 7 synagogues!

...maybe they might brush the dirt of the place in the future..

And call you religious.

...what i dont know, is if you would agree with them.

(Although calling yourself and others kafir.. is entirely up to you)

It is what you make it.

From now on im only posting in easy threads..

To be fair im not sure why you are at present not sat in a wig with gavel in hand..

And the clever answer is that you are not qualified.
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talibilm
11-19-2017, 03:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dania16
I want to know what the world think about Islam ? is it peaceful ? or violent ?
The world (biased media) can think anything but we have to see the Roots of Islam which proves its the TOP MOST PEACE LOVING, FAIR & SWEET RELIGION. example when Muslims took over Mecca peacefully , Prophet :saws: even allowed pagan Arabs to stay near the kaaba have their idols within their home shut doors and even allowed them doing pilgrimage to Kaaba for nearly two years . So Sweet were Muslims is seen from our Glorious Quran and hadith and from its great Caliph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3JRs9_jvB8

But when those idiots did pilgrimage completely NUDE :facepalm: Allah banned them and ordered to get out of the area and declared them as Najis or impure.

POLYTHEISTS BANNED FROM HAJ IN NUDE

Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 179

Narrated Humaid bin Abdur Rahman:Abu Huraira said, "Abu Bakr sent me in that Hajj in which he was the chief of the pilgrims along with the announcers whom he sent on the Day of Nahr to announce at Mina: "No pagan shall perform Hajj after this year, and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba in a naked state." Humaid added: That the Prophet sent 'Ali bin Abi Talib (after Abu Bakr) and ordered him to recite aloud in public Surat-Baraa. Abu Huraira added, "So 'Ali, along with us, recited Bara'a (loudly) before the people at Mina on the Day of Nahr and announced "No pagan shall perform Hajj after this year and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba in a NAKED state."..except those pagans with whom you (Muslims) have a treaty." (9.4)

If your DRUNKEN driver had made accidents with your best MBenz car will you ask the world is your car, a good car ? you will blame the driver and not the car. So Islam cannot be blamed for its some of its worst , misguided follower but should be weighed from its followers in the 1,2 ,3 rd generations and other Good Caliphs later like Salauhudeen Ayyubi (RA) the hero of Muslims during crusades. Kindly Read his history and see what is True Islam is all about. He even gave gave protection and Escort to his enemies as per the Order of the Glorious Quran.
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Captain Howdy
11-19-2017, 03:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.
Yes, i live in a western country.. within a mile of me are at least 7 churches, 7 mosques and 7 synagogues!
No offense dude . The only reason you have been able to grow in those lands is secularism . The funny part is secularism is haram as per Shariah . This gives me topkek .
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Futuwwa
11-19-2017, 07:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
You are blamed from the obvious fact that you demand rights when in minority and demand Shariah as soon as you get equal to kafir population . You do build mosques and preach your religion freely in kafir lands but you dont allow us to preach ours in yours own land .
What is "my own land"? Why should what happens in a Muslim country I have no connection to whatsoever have any significance for what rights I should enjoy as a citizen who happens to adhere to the religion of Islam unlike the majority of my fellow citizens?
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M.I.A.
11-19-2017, 07:32 PM
Well i cant take any credit for our growth, and to be fair in my own community the first and second generation of immigrants took the brunt of what society had to offer.

But putting that aside for a moment..

"You do build mosques and preach your religion freely in kafir lands but you dont allow us to preach ours in yours own land."

What you said in the second post is that given the oppertunity to do so..

You would be exactly the same in disposition.

What i would suggest to you is that the law.. and the application of law..

Are two different things.

Making things better is a huge undertaking.. even if it comes about by chance..

Seemingly.

Todays people have a different test.. but the premise is the same..

If the things we say and the things we do have some disparity between them.

Then success is elsewhere.

..sharia law is just a pipedream at the moment..

Its still a weapon but as you demonstrate..

Its unwieldy.
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Captain Howdy
11-20-2017, 03:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Futuwwa
What is "my own land"? Why should what happens in a Muslim country I have no connection to whatsoever have any significance for what rights I should enjoy as a citizen who happens to adhere to the religion of Islam unlike the majority of my fellow citizens?
Western way of living does not conforms to islam, . You cannot change it uwu
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waji
11-20-2017, 05:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
You are blamed from the obvious fact that you demand rights when in minority and demand Shariah as soon as you get equal to kafir population . You do build mosques and preach your religion freely in kafir lands but you dont allow us to preach ours in yours own land .
Its is simple Islam is Only Truth.

In my Opinion religion can't be given any specification specially Islam. when it roots down to the First Man and First Prophet Adam.
All the prophets came to preach Islam.
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Captain Howdy
11-20-2017, 07:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by وجی
Its is simple Islam is Only Truth.
Surah al kafiroon as repeated has answers . Islam being truth if you believe so I have no problem with that . But that doesnt necessarily means everyone is gonna buy that .
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adyiqbal
11-20-2017, 09:30 AM
Indeed, Islam is the Religion of Peace and the Only Religion that is true and takes the person on the righteous path of Allah. Blindly follow it.
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Futuwwa
11-20-2017, 11:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
Western way of living does not conforms to islam, . You cannot change it uwu
Which answers my question how exactly? I ask again: Why should my rights and freedoms as a Western Muslim depend on what happens in Islamic countries?
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Captain Howdy
11-20-2017, 12:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Futuwwa
Why should my rights and freedoms as a Western Muslim depend on what happens in Islamic countries?
It gives epic impression that when you will become majority in foreign lands you had do the same . This is not a joke dude . This is ground reality about the perception majority people carry.
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Captain Howdy
11-20-2017, 12:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by talibilm
The world (biased media)
Jews control majority of media . I agree .
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Futuwwa
11-20-2017, 03:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
It gives epic impression that when you will become majority in foreign lands you had do the same . This is not a joke dude . This is ground reality about the perception majority people carry.
That still doesn't answer the question. Should I enjoy the freedom of religion that I allegedly would deny others if I had the ability to?

Also, your attempt to sneakily change the discussion from you asserting a particular thing, to it being a mere perception to whose truth value you now pretend to be neutral, is noted.
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M.I.A.
11-20-2017, 10:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
mashallah
..dont get carried away lol.

As a shopkeeper i meet a lot of different people.

Its hard enough getting paid without upsetting people or rattling cages.

Although the last few years have really done a number on me..

So now i hopefully enter a stage of rehabilitation.. and a return to giving more time to prayer.

Am no longer a shopkeeper.

..it nearly destroyed me physically and mentally..

Which is strange for a long time shopkeeper.
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'Abd-al Latif
11-20-2017, 10:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
mashallah
Engaging in a productive conversation will be far more fruitful for you to better understand Islam and Muslims than to try and give an impression that you know all about us, when your posts suggest that you clearly don't. I'd be happy to engage in a discussion with you and clarify misconceptions.
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air
11-21-2017, 02:07 AM
:sl:

I don't think the term peace in Islam has the same meaning as the world wanted to, it's not the same sister...
Islam is the religion of truth, and "Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam..." [3:19]

We follow what's Allah ordered to seek peace, and stay away from Allah ban to avoid Allah wrath.

And I think the world wants now is to impose Islam to be "*peaceful*"...
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Captain Howdy
11-21-2017, 03:22 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif
Engaging in a productive conversation will be far more fruitful for you to better understand Islam and Muslims than to try and give an impression that you know all about us, when your posts suggest that you clearly don't. I'd be happy to engage in a discussion with you and clarify misconceptions.
Nope my only problem is when you try to squeeze out things from our texts that do not really exist .
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*charisma*
11-21-2017, 11:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
Nope my only problem is when you try to squeeze out things from our texts that do not really exist .

If you're not here to learn, then what are you doing here? You have an opportunity to discuss things respectfully, but you're choosing not to.
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Captain Howdy
11-21-2017, 12:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
If you're not here to learn, then what are you doing here? You have an opportunity to discuss things respectfully, but you're choosing not to.
All my respectful proposals have been moderated and deleted . The admin of this forum must allow my threads . A few hours back , I made a fourth attempt but still my threads not showing up .
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'Abd-al Latif
11-21-2017, 12:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
All my respectful proposals have been moderated and deleted . The admin of this forum must allow my threads . A few hours back , I made a fourth attempt but still my threads not showing up .
Please discuss this on the Helpdesk section to avoid derailing this thread off topic. I've already responded to your query and am awaiting your response there.

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format_quote Originally Posted by Captain Howdy
Nope my only problem is when you try to squeeze out things from our texts that do not really exist .
Nobody here is doing that.
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