Whether here or elsewhere, I am SICK of munafiqun. If they will not listen to reason, we should not hug them and be warm and fuzzy with them. They should be banned.
We need to stop tolerating munafiqun. People who want to subvert Islam should not be tolerated. They should be banned. And if that doesn't happen, they should at least be attacked.
If people want to openly identify with other religions, let them. But munafiqun should not be tolerated. Just as that which has been rendered impure should be cleansed of filth- this forum should be cleansed of munafiqun. They should be banned.
The hypocrites still raise their ugly heads from time to time, whenever they get the opportunity, in order to attack the basic and fundamental beliefs and practices of the ummah, or to cast doubts on its basic tenets, or to strip the community of its Islamic identity. What should we do about them, and how can we protect the ummah against their evil?.
https://islamqa.info/en/42534
Praise be to Allaah. Undoubtedly this is a problem from which the ummah suffers from time to time, especially when it is faced with trials and tribulations and these hypocrites feel secure and feel that they will not be punished if they attack the foundations of this religion and try to spread division and tribulation. Undoubtedly the damage that these people do is greater than that caused by the kuffaar whose kufr is obvious, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allaah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path?”[al-Munaafiqoon 63:4] Because of that, it is prescribed to wage jihad against them and to treat them harshly...
Moreover the harm that these people (hypocrites) cause to the Muslims is greater than that caused by others (kaafirs), indeed their harm is like that caused by the mushrikeen and people of the Book who fight the Muslims. The damage that they do to the religious commitment of many people is worse than the damage done by those mushrikeen and people of the Book who wage war on us. Every Muslim must do as much as he can of his duty. It is not permissible for anyone to keep quiet about anything that he knows about them, rather he must broadcast it so that the Muslims will know what they really are. It is not permissible for anyone to help them to remain among the troops and government employees, or for anyone to keep quiet and refrain from carrying out against them that which Allaah and His Messenger have enjoined. It is not permissible for anyone to speak against carrying out what Allaah and His Messenger have enjoined. This is one of the greatest types of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, and of striving in jihad for the sake of Allaah. Allaah said to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet (Muhammad)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them”
[al-Tawbah 9:73]
We need to follow God's instructions and we need to ban them. We need to be harsh against them and strive hard against them. Therefore, if we have the ability to ban them we should ban them. Or at least force them to identify as kuffar and quit trying to subvert our religion. And if we can't get them banned, we should at least be harsh with them and attack them.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Misbah-Abd
No, I get it. You want Islam to conform to you and your logic. This Deen has been established for over 1400 years with an unbroken chain of scholarly knowledge and wisdom. It's hear and obey time. Praying the five prayers has to be in Arabic. It is not something that is beyond human possibility to do. My wife's 9 year old son can do it. And there are children much younger than that that has mastered it. All it takes is time and effort without questioning everything in the religion.
Our religion is perfect and so our religion already has a prescribed way of dealing with such people, as well as a term for them: munafiqun.
This forum should be for Muslims and not for hypocrites. The hypocrites have the whole rest of the internet to go to. In the case of limp-wristed liberals who think they're entitled to rewrite our religion according to their dictates- I believe Quora or Facebook might suit them.
This thread makes it very obvious that "beleiver" wants to subvert our religion according to some type of warm, fuzzy liberal feelings. Not only that but out to form some sort of warm, fuzzy New Age Islam. Possibly inspired by large doses of Oprah Winfrey.
https://www.islamicboard.com/world-affairs/134349603-liberal-world.html
format_quote Originally Posted by
AllahIsAl-Malik
Stop trying to subvert Islam.
I don't care about whatever warm, fuzzy, feelings-based new religion the individual wants to invent.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Zafran
Your trying to enforce a liberal paradigm here by the way
I believe we should just ban munafiqun and let them migrate to another part of the internet. Possibly Quora. Or Reddit. Maybe an Oprah Winfrey-based forum for New Age types who are deeply into their feelings.
If the people with the ability to do so are not willing to ban them then, they should at least be attacked and made to know that they are not welcome.
I cannot stand munafiqun and I want a Muslim forum. Furthermore, I think non-Muslims should be limited to a non-Muslim ghetto. But first I would like to request that we ban munafiqun.