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Desert
12-21-2017, 05:16 PM
As salamu alaikum

I'm 30 years old
I live in USA I have schizoaffective bipolar ADHD type mental
Illnesses that involve movement disorder I cannot pray or fast due to these mental illnesses
What happens to me during prayers is I get repetive movements so
I can't stand still for Salah I swing back and forth and move my arms
Nor can I fast if I stare at a thing with my eyes my eyes will roll due
To my movement disorder that prevents me from everything Islamic..
Do I have to atleast try or am I excused or will I be punished if I don't try?
I'm sorry but ever since I gave up trying hard to be a Muslim I feel like I do kufr...

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Public note to self I blame the medicine
But no I'm positive it's a jinn in my body
I just stared at the wall in my room my eyes were fine the jinns are playing with my mind!
Severe possession
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ahmed.younes
12-21-2017, 05:45 PM
Salam sister
It sounds like you are indeed afflicted with jinn or something of that sort. You should try self-ruqya according to the sunna (quran and hadeeth)
May allah grant u cure
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Desert
12-21-2017, 06:04 PM
No don't jinn label me I'm insane
I always have memory problems and end up blaming it on the poor jinns
I'm a insane girl due to what I have written in my diary about my illness I keep repeating myself

In Islam all I know is my sins aren't being recorded.... The pen is lifted from the insane person....Hadith sahih...
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azc
12-21-2017, 06:05 PM
:wa: May Allah swt grant you shifa. Ameen
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Supernova
12-21-2017, 06:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Desert
As salamu alaikum

I'm 30 years old
I live in USA I have schizoaffective bipolar ADHD type mental
Illnesses that involve movement disorder I cannot pray or fast due to these mental illnesses
What happens to me during prayers is I get repetive movements so
I can't stand still for Salah I swing back and forth and move my arms
Nor can I fast if I stare at a thing with my eyes my eyes will roll due
To my movement disorder that prevents me from everything Islamic..
Do I have to atleast try or am I excused or will I be punished if I don't try?
I'm sorry but ever since I gave up trying hard to be a Muslim I feel like I do kufr...

- - - Updated - - -

Public note to self I blame the medicine
But no I'm positive it's a jinn in my body
I just stared at the wall in my room my eyes were fine the jinns are playing with my mind!
Severe possession
Asalaamualaykum Desert.

The very fact that your are schizoaffective means that your delusional and/or have hallucinations.

At this very point it means two things.

a) Your testimony upon others or upon your self would be put to serious questioning in Civil and Legal Law.
b) The same applies to Islamic Jurisprudence. (Fiqh)

What this simply means is that after you have self proclaimed being schizoaffective - the rest of your entire story that you have typed is questionable.

In other words, your very first claim has put the rest into possibility rather than fact. I will give you an academic parable. Imagine if a person says "I am a pathological liar" and then submits an Autobiography. The entire Autobiography will be taken as either a lie or a possible fact or an amalgamation of both.

In your case the schizoaffective tendency is neurological. That simply means you have no control over the issue. That in turn means you are accountable for certain Islamic issues and not accountable on others. I can tell from how you have typed your issue that you do have a level of cognition. That in turn means you will be accountable for certain issues in Islam.

From everything that you have typed, you also seem to have sensory motive disorders. This is not uncommon as you have stated that you have ADHD and not just ADD. You bipolar issues can stem from either the schizoaffective part or the Bipolar part.

Your best course of action will be the following. Take your local Mufti with you to your Therapist and have a meeting. You need to inform and give consent for this to your Therapist. You also need to give consent that your Therapist can confer with the Mufti after that. Your Mufti would then be able to tell you which issues in Deen you are accountable for and which you are not.
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Desert
12-21-2017, 06:41 PM
Thank you supernova that was exactly what I was hoping for in for a advice that was very smart advice thank you may Allaah give you jannah
Ameen

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I contacted a imam once and he told me I don't need to do prayers or fasting I didn't listen to him and ended up in more trouble I think my mind sort of stopped growing at age 10...
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Desert
12-21-2017, 07:18 PM
I just googled autism and it matched exactly how I feel I feel like I never grew up from age 10 to 12....
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Desert
01-14-2018, 08:07 PM
its from the medicine tablet i take it also makes me dumb....
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M.I.A.
01-14-2018, 09:33 PM
If you cant control your body then at least try and find peace of mind..

Willpower.

Then maybe you can recognise what you are stumbling over. (Metaphorically, physically.. or both)

If you can pray in your mind then you are already some way to achieving something.

Its so strange to believe in dreams and yet neglect the waking one.

One day at a time.


...who can really control the body anyway o_0

Allah swt give you good character.

..whatever that means and however you get there.

Id like to deny that im dumb some day, Alhamdulillah.

..but i walked the wrong way off stage when collecting my degree!!
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Desert
01-14-2018, 09:56 PM
M I A thanks for those flowers of hope....maybe im just not keeping my hope only in Allaah :cry:
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M.I.A.
01-14-2018, 10:13 PM
Ah well..

Plant them.

They will last longer.

Em.. i have no idea if they will.. i am not gardener!

Also maybe find a better username O_O

One day at a time.
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Nitro Zeus
01-14-2018, 10:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.
If you cant control your body then at least try and find peace of mind..

Willpower.

Then maybe you can recognise what you are stumbling over. (Metaphorically, physically.. or both)

If you can pray in your mind then you are already some way to achieving something.

Its so strange to believe in dreams and yet neglect the waking one.

One day at a time.


...who can really control the body anyway o_0

Allah swt give you good character.

..whatever that means and however you get there.

Id like to deny that im dumb some day, Alhamdulillah.

..but i walked the wrong way off stage when collecting my degree!!
God Almighty is Al Controller, He is the one who controls every single thing including your body.
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Desert
01-14-2018, 10:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
God Almighty is Al Controller, He is the one who controls every single thing including your body.
thanks Nitro Zeus
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M.I.A.
01-14-2018, 10:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
God Almighty is Al Controller, He is the one who controls every single thing including your body.
...yeah its hardly the matrix though is it?

Sorry i only speak in ones and zeroes..

..And derailed threads.

Back to the hidy hole it goes.
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Desert
01-14-2018, 10:55 PM
i think someone gave me sincere dua from this website
i feel as if the jinn in my body wanted to be religious
im not a religious person i was posessessed at 13 just for watching tv...
it feels like a split personality it feels as if a huge weight has been lifted off my head
but it comes back quickly when i see sinful people or tv...


live exorism going on...
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Nitro Zeus
01-14-2018, 10:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Desert
i think someone gave me sincere dua from this website
i feel as if the jinn in my body wanted to be religious
im not a religious person i was posessessed at 13 just for watching tv...
it feels like a split personality it feels as if a huge weight has been lifted off my head
but it comes back quickly when i see sinful people or tv...


live exorism going on...
If it happens this to you that a Jinn has entered your body and controls it without your will, it is your chance to Guide him to the right path by the help of God, and if God wishes you’ll get rewarded for this. But, you can teach the Jinn the things you know about Islam and then learn about Islam and then you can become Jinn’s teacher and then the Jinn if God wishes will become a religious Muslim.
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M.I.A.
01-14-2018, 11:07 PM
Yeah somehow i think the movie references were better than where this thread is now headed.

You dont need to teach anyone anything only recify yourself.

Be warned..

This place was designed to teach you.

No point blaming jin when most of us give ourselves over to wrong things..

By which we wrong our own souls only.

..And those willing to hold tails.


Ancient japanese story that may be copypasta.

Describes a japanese general that fishes without a hook on the line.

When asked why..

He says.

Only the willing can be caught by this line.

It was a grand story but im no story teller.
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Desert
01-14-2018, 11:11 PM
im not the religious one its the jinn thats making me act religious
i never pray salah when i get the jinn controlling my mind it forces me to worry about prayers and talk about hazart maryamo whoever she was
i dont know anything about islam all i do is wait for that huge weight on my shoulders to become weak so i can express myself

i never wore hijab like it controled me to do so

it seems to be a learned muslim jinn...that is messing around with my mind...

the witch is out of its box i was never in prayer fever i was a sinner...
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Nitro Zeus
01-14-2018, 11:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Desert
im not the religious one its the jinn thats making me act religious
i never pray salah when i get the jinn controlling my mind it forces me to worry about prayers and talk about hazart maryamo whoever she was
i dont know anything about islam all i do is wait for that huge weight on my shoulders to become weak so i can express myself

i never wore hijab like it controled me to do so

it seems to be a learned muslim jinn...that is messing around with my mind...

the witch is out of its box i was never in prayer fever i was a sinner...
Maybe it is a sign from God To wake you up from your imaginary world and do the important things before you regret it. Right?
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M.I.A.
01-14-2018, 11:44 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Desert
im not the religious one its the jinn thats making me act religious
i never pray salah when i get the jinn controlling my mind it forces me to worry about prayers and talk about hazart maryamo whoever she was
i dont know anything about islam all i do is wait for that huge weight on my shoulders to become weak so i can express myself

i never wore hijab like it controled me to do so

it seems to be a learned muslim jinn...that is messing around with my mind...

the witch is out of its box i was never in prayer fever i was a sinner...
We are all driven by some intent at the least..

Lets hope for increased understanding within our flawed understandings.

And ultimately a coming to terms with whatever allah swt provides on the path.


format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Maybe it is a sign from God To wake you up from your imaginary world and do the important things before you regret it. Right?
Lets try not to become monsters while we are at it..

Its far from imaginary.
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Nitro Zeus
01-15-2018, 12:17 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.
We are all driven by some intent at the least..

Lets hope for increased understanding within our flawed understandings.

And ultimately a coming to terms with whatever allah swt provides on the path.




Lets try not to become monsters while we are at it..

Its far from imaginary.
What? Monsters??? I was trying to help him in good.
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Desert
01-15-2018, 01:05 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
What? Monsters??? I was trying to help him in good.
i think gog and magog is out like imran nazar hosain says and i think they are either mongols or somesort of white race

IS IT ME OR DO WE LIVE A SECOND AWAY FROM JUDGEMENT DAY!????

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I MAY GET BANNED FOR SAYING THIS

BUT I THINK IM ALSO A GOVERNMENT US STATE LAB EXPERIRMENT BY THE GOG MAGOG FREE MASONS!
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M.I.A.
01-15-2018, 11:20 AM
Well in my neigbourhood they eat each other alive..

And they are heedless in doing so.

Food for thought.

And now people are asking me to join them on hajj.

..im not sure i can trust what they have planned.

Alhamdulillah.
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Desert
01-15-2018, 10:08 PM
someone spoke on my lips saying they hate god and they hate me

jinns are a reality if your ahlul sunnah wal jammaah....

I better go to face book and complain there
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Nitro Zeus
01-15-2018, 10:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Desert
someone spoke on my lips saying they hate god and they hate me

jinns are a reality if your ahlul sunnah wal jammaah....

I better go to face book and complain there
Well, I think that you should say “I seek refuge from God against all evil, and from male and female devils” or recite “The Cow” if you don’t want to hear it. And I think that this is one of the signs that God is testing you, and all you need to do is, pray and Make Supplication To God all the time and if He wishes, everything will be fine.
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Desert
01-16-2018, 07:07 PM
......

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Umm Malik
01-16-2018, 10:07 PM
Sister .... if you can tell one of your family members about your intention of doing hijamah it will be so good for you
And they will encourage you if you conceal going any time
You will feel so good after it in shall ah
It will also be easy for you to pray or to read Quran
Be with Allah ask him and make istighfar as long as you can
May Allah help you and grant you jannah for your patience
It's easy for Allah to heal you if you put your trust in him.
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M.I.A.
01-17-2018, 12:32 AM
"soon the earth will be ruled by Islam because it is the only true religion
western thinkers will have to submit to the Truth of Islam even though they openly deny it even though they
know its the truth..."

This destroys me lol.

Well..

If you ever find yourself in a position of authority.
..
..
Write something good.


I find security in my anonimity, although nobody is really alone.

And if i can hold away your intent..

Then the world is a different place entirely.

Lol im afraid to speak of them for fear of changing them.
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Desert
01-17-2018, 12:49 AM
dot...
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Desert
01-31-2018, 06:34 AM
I found out who the witch was today its a certain family member...just mumuring garbage to get what she wants....

how I found out was like this I was in my room when i heard her pass she started uttering those garbage then all of a sudden my own hands rose and started choking me
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M.I.A.
02-02-2018, 01:45 PM
Well, its the state of the world.

..if you were to leave, where could you possibly go?

All this time i thought allah swt would write it for me..

But they only ever write it for themselves.

Someone said to me that for someone with such a big head you do have a small brain.

..im just content dodging traffic.

Hopefully live and learn.. to write better.
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