format_quote Originally Posted by
Nikki1234
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
Soooo I am new to Islam (It'll be a year this coming february since I took my shahada). I do not know very much about Islam. All I know is that I believe that there is no God but, God and that Allah is the only one worhty of worship. I worship only Allah. I believe that the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhim wasallam is the messenger of Allah. Everything else, I don't really have much knowledge of. So it's a little confusing to know who I should learn from. I have two muslim friends who both follow the Sunnah. But, one is Salafiyyah and the other is just Sunni but, believes that Sufi's are pious people. They both claim that the other is not muslim because of there sect of Islam. How come they can't just either share knowledge to find out the truth or agree-to-disagree? I feel like I am stuck in the middle and I don't know who I should learn from because I want to know both sides. And I value both friendships. I don't like sneaking around learning from one person and then sneaking to learn from the other. Please share your thoughts, advice, feelings, and comments. Barakallahou feekum.
Shukran,
Nikki
Asalaamualaykum
The differences are very intricate and require more than the basic knowledge of the layman to actually ascertain the right from wrong (If applicable).
You need to speak to each sides scholars regarding their views and chose for yourself.
The greatest fallacy regarding these differences between these 2 groups is that the layman on each side with very limited knowledge makes unjust remarks about the other side with very little knowledge regarding the actually differences.
All the layman on each side does here is basically parrot repeats from their Scholars although they still don't understand the issue at its fullest measure.
Consider the following Example:
A man goes to his GP and after tests are done finds out he is diagnosed with Cancer. He does not accept the GP's diagnoses and asks the GP for proof. The GP then spends more time with him showing him all the proofs on paper and scan results etc. The man then believes he has Cancer after looking at the proof.
Although the man now believes he has cancer after looking at the proof, the harsh reality is he is in no better position before or after looking at the proof. The reason being is that although proof was rendered to him on paper and scan results etc...How does the layman know that the very derivation or methodology of the test was correct so as to result in a correct diagnoses ? Just simply seeing the proof on paper and scans might render a possible proof but definitely does not qualify the patient to be a Dr or say he now has expert knowledge of how Cancer is diagnosed.
Using that parable this is what happens between most layman Salafis, Wahabis, Sufis, Tablighis (and whatever other mainstream groups exists) and the entire following of each groups. They know what their side says and they might know what the other side says but I can assure you that most are not in a position to actually academically form a final unbiased decision between the differences.
The sheer arrogance of these people is similar to that of a person that travels on an Aeroplane weekly. After 10 years of being a passenger, is that person qualified to say that they know the exact ins and outs of how the Aeroplane works ranging from the mechanical parts, to the electronics, to the aerodynamics, the flight patterns, the procedures of emergency etc etc .
The point here being is that this problem of group bashing ranging from accusations of bidah right up to Kufr is a serious topic that one has to spend many years learning Islam and all its related sciences.
As a revert it is either recommended that you follow Islam in accordance with the ones whos hands you reverted upon OR follow the majority in your area.
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format_quote Originally Posted by
Nikki1234
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
Soooo I am new to Islam (It'll be a year this coming february since I took my shahada). I do not know very much about Islam. All I know is that I believe that there is no God but, God and that Allah is the only one worhty of worship. I worship only Allah. I believe that the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhim wasallam is the messenger of Allah. Everything else, I don't really have much knowledge of. So it's a little confusing to know who I should learn from. I have two muslim friends who both follow the Sunnah. But, one is Salafiyyah and the other is just Sunni but, believes that Sufi's are pious people. They both claim that the other is not muslim because of there sect of Islam. How come they can't just either share knowledge to find out the truth or agree-to-disagree? I feel like I am stuck in the middle and I don't know who I should learn from because I want to know both sides. And I value both friendships. I don't like sneaking around learning from one person and then sneaking to learn from the other. Please share your thoughts, advice, feelings, and comments. Barakallahou feekum.
Shukran,
Nikki
Asalaamualaykum
The differences are very intricate and require more than the basic knowledge of the layman to actually ascertain the right from wrong (If applicable).
You need to speak to each sides scholars regarding their views and chose for yourself.
The greatest fallacy regarding these differences between these 2 groups is that the layman on each side with very limited knowledge makes unjust remarks about the other side with very little knowledge regarding the actually differences.
All the layman on each side does here is basically parrot repeats from their Scholars although they still don't understand the issue at its fullest measure.
Consider the following Example:
A man goes to his GP and after tests are done finds out he is diagnosed with Cancer. He does not accept the GP's diagnoses and asks the GP for proof. The GP then spends more time with him showing him all the proofs on paper and scan results etc. The man then believes he has Cancer after looking at the proof.
Although the man now believes he has cancer after looking at the proof, the harsh reality is he is in no better position before or after looking at the proof. The reason being is that although proof was rendered to him on paper and scan results etc...How does the layman know that the very derivation or methodology of the test was correct so as to result in a correct diagnoses ? Just simply seeing the proof on paper and scans might render a possible proof but definitely does not qualify the patient to be a Dr or say he now has expert knowledge of how Cancer is diagnosed.
Using that parable this is what happens between most layman Salafis, Wahabis, Sufis, Tablighis (and whatever other mainstream groups exists) and the entire following of each groups. They know what their side says and they might know what the other side says but I can assure you that most are not in a position to actually academically form a final unbiased decision between the differences.
The sheer arrogance of these people is similar to that of a person that travels on an Aeroplane weekly. After 10 years of being a passenger, is that person qualified to say that they know the exact ins and outs of how the Aeroplane works ranging from the mechanical parts, to the electronics, to the aerodynamics, the flight patterns, the procedures of emergency etc etc .
The point here being is that this problem of group bashing ranging from accusations of bidah right up to Kufr is a serious topic that one has to spend many years learning Islam and all its related sciences.
As a revert it is either recommended that you follow Islam in accordance with the ones whos hands you reverted upon OR follow the majority in your area.