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Nitro Zeus
12-27-2017, 11:28 PM
Say: “Call upon Allah, or Call upon Rahman; By whatever name ye call Upon Him, (it is well): For to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names”. [Al Qur’an 17:110]

I can say like, O King of kings, please Make this or that. Or, O All-Merciful, please do this or that. Or, O the absolute ruler, please do this and that only one time.

Is that true that due to Islamic point of view, I can call upon God as I described you?
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Good brother
12-28-2017, 09:56 PM
Salam alaikum

You can add mp3 files of Takbeer, Fatihah, Short surah, what to say in prostration, tashahhud etc to your mobile and in a few weeks you will say them fluently In shaa' Allah.
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Nitro Zeus
12-28-2017, 10:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Good brother
Salam alaikum

You can add mp3 files of Takbeer, Fatihah, Short surah, what to say in prostration, tashahhud etc to your mobile and in a few weeks you will say them fluently In shaa' Allah.
Oh, so that’s means, I can Say any surah from beginning of Du’a and at the end of Du’a? Like, if I start making a Du’a on my own, I can start with Fatiha, and also at the end I can say Fatiha again? And the rest, I leave up to God To decide if He wants To grant me the wish or not?
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sister herb
12-28-2017, 10:03 PM
Salam alaykum

That´s a good idea but what about original question; can we call Allah by our own language´s word what means the same or should we only say Allah? And what about prayers? Are prayers invalid if we say them by any other language than Arabic only? I am sure this question comes to many new muslims minds.
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Nitro Zeus
12-28-2017, 11:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Salam alaykum

That´s a good idea but what about original question; can we call Allah by our own language´s word what means the same or should we only say Allah? And what about prayers? Are prayers invalid if we say them by any other language than Arabic only? I am sure this question comes to many new muslims minds.
Yeah, that’s what I have in my mind, because I heard people saying that it is haram to pray and call Allah in your own language, and I know that God Almighty knows every single language other than Arabic, which means it includes also Arabic, like, I have made a Du’a in Romanian language which is my mother language and my Du’a have been answered even if it is not Arabic, so I got the conclusion that I can call Allah in any language I feel comfortable, now I don’t know if I’m correct.
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sister herb
12-28-2017, 11:37 PM
Maybe because Allah knows what you have in your heart. No words needed. ;)

But that´s just my own opinion. Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer.
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Insaanah
12-29-2017, 09:01 PM
:salamext:
Could you please clarify what you mean by prayers? Do you mean the five compulsory daily prayers at fixed times, ie salat, or do you mean dua, your own supplication to Allah which can be done any time, when you raise your hands and ask Allah for your needs and wants?
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 09:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Maybe because Allah knows what you have in your heart. No words needed. ;)

But that´s just my own opinion. Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer.
I meant on Salat, because I know that God knows every single language, and I want to pray to Him in Romanian language instead of Arabic, because it is my mother language and I understand much better than any other languages and if I pray in Arabic, I would not understand what I say and even if I memorized the whole prayer, still, it would not be enough because, I simply don’t understand Arabic, but extremely little and that is still not enough. So my question is, I can pray in Romanian? As I described above with starting at the beginning of prayer by saying “Dumnezeu este cel mai mare” which in Arabic is “Alahu Akhbar”
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 09:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah
:salamext:
Could you please clarify what you mean by prayers? Do you mean the five compulsory daily prayers at fixed times, ie salat, or do you mean dua, your own supplication to Allah which can be done any time, when you raise your hands and ask Allah for your needs and wants?
I meant on Salat, because I know that God knows every single language, and I want to pray to Him in Romanian language instead of Arabic, because it is my mother language and I understand much better than any other languages and if I pray in Arabic, I would not understand what I say and even if I memorized the whole prayer, still, it would not be enough because, I simply don’t understand Arabic, but extremely little and that is still not enough. So my question is, I can pray in Romanian? As I described above with starting at the beginning of prayer by saying “Dumnezeu este cel mai mare” which in Arabic is “Alahu Akhbar”
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Insaanah
12-29-2017, 09:38 PM
The five daily prayers ie salat must be done in Arabic. The dua which you can ask any time can be done in your own language.
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 09:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Insaanah
The five daily prayers ie salat must be done in Arabic. The dua which you can ask any time can be done in your own language.
Even if I don’t understand and I just memorize the whole Islamic prayer, then it is perfectly fine? And, can you tell me how you started to learn how to pray, what was the easiest way to learn how to pray? Because, I really want to recover the moments I I haven’t prayed at all. So if I pray in any language other than Arabic, then it will invalid my prayer, right?
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Supernova
12-29-2017, 10:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Say: “Call upon Allah, or Call upon Rahman; By whatever name ye call Upon Him, (it is well): For to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names”. [Al Qur’an 17:110]

Is that true that, if I call Him God, then it is ok? Because, when I say God I refer strict to Allah.

For instance, I say when I start the prayer, “Dumnezeu este cel mai mare” which in Arabic is “Allahu Akhbar”

And, it is permissible to make the declaration in Romanian for example:
“Nu cred niciun alt Dumnezeu decât unu, iar Muhamed este profetul lui Dumnezeu”
I make declarations every night in Romanian.

I wonder, is my declaration and prayers valid if I say the declaration or Islamic prayer in Romanian? Because, it is easily for me to understand Romanian than Arabic, because, it is my mother language, and Arabic language is not my language, and I don’t understand what I’m saying if I say in Arabic, because I have done few times by saying in Arabic, and it was like speaking like a parrot without understandings, and only in Romanian and in English language I understand well.

Like in English every start of prayer I say: “God is the greatest” and in Romanian I say: “Dumnezeu este cel mai mare”

So my question is, I can Say the prayers in Romanian language( my mother language) and make declarations in my mother language as I described there? Oh, and I can make every night declarations as I described for any eventuality? And I can call Allah by saying “Doamne” which means “O Allah”?
​Do you understand your own question ?
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 10:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Supernova
​Do you understand your own question ?
Yes, In here I want step by step, I mean first question if I can say the prayers on my own language and second question if I can make the Islamic deceleration in Romanian, so yes, I do understand. What makes you think I don’t understand?
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 10:40 PM
Oh I think, I understand the verse now. Sorry for disturbing, my bad I did not payed attention. I will correct it.
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Nitro Zeus
12-29-2017, 11:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Supernova
​Do you understand your own question ?
Oops, sorry, my bad that I did not payed attention. Thanx for warning me. I will correct it.
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2017, 12:29 AM
Can anyone delete this post please?
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Ümit
01-02-2018, 08:57 AM
prayer like dua can be done anytime and in any language. Allah understands every language.
But during the salat you need to recite parts of the Quran. this cannot be done in a different language than Arabic.

You have to memorise these verses in the original language. if you want you can look up the translation of these verses, but during salat you have to pray in Arabic.
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Alim012
01-02-2018, 01:14 PM
Assalamu Alaikum
For learning quran i would suggest The World's Most Useful Islamic Software (http://Alim.org) , this has translations and recitation of quran and hadiths. You can also learn about the Islamic history as well. They do have a mobile app for the same
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cinnamonrolls1
01-02-2018, 01:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Salam alaykum

That´s a good idea but what about original question; can we call Allah by our own language´s word what means the same or should we only say Allah? And what about prayers? Are prayers invalid if we say them by any other language than Arabic only? I am sure this question comes to many new muslims minds.
I think if you know no arabic whatsoecwr its okay to say it in ur language but ideally you should know at least the basics
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Ümit
01-02-2018, 02:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
I think if you know no arabic whatsoecwr its okay to say it in ur language but ideally you should know at least the basics
No.
The Salat (the obligatory 5 times a day prayer) needs to be done in Arabic. Because you have to recite verses from the Quran during Salat. This can not be done in your own language. If you do not know arabic, then write it down in phoneatically arabic and read that during Salat. That is much better then memorizing the verses in your own language.

Besides, The Quran is very poetic which makes it easy to memorize even if you do not understand it.

The other prayers like dua where you do not need to recitate parts of the Quran, can be performed in every language.
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cinnamonrolls1
01-02-2018, 03:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umie
No.
The Salat (the obligatory 5 times a day prayer) needs to be done in Arabic. Because you have to recite verses from the Quran during Salat. This can not be done in your own language. If you do not know arabic, then write it down in phoneatically arabic and read that during Salat. That is much better then memorizing the verses in your own language.

Besides, The Quran is very poetic which makes it easy to memorize even if you do not understand it.

The other prayers like dua where you do not need to recitate parts of the Quran, can be performed in every language.
Sorry i didng explain my self properly, the basics include quran for salah etc
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99sobi
01-02-2018, 03:54 PM
Bismillah,

قُلِ ٱدْعُواْ ٱللَّهَ أَوِ ٱدْعُواْ ٱلرَّحْمَـٰنَ أَيّاً مَّا تَدْعُواْ فَلَهُ ٱلأَسْمَآءَ ٱلْحُسْنَىٰ وَلاَ تَجْهَرْ بِصَلاَتِكَ وَلاَ تُخَافِتْ بِهَا وَٱبْتَغِ بَيْنَ ذٰلِكَ سَبِيلاً

Translation: Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."

When the Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, used to call Allah, may He be exalted, he used to say: O Allah, O Compassionate One. So the disbelievers would think why the Prophet would forbid them from worshipping multiple Gods when he would call upon two Gods - "Allah" and the "Compassionate One". This is why the verse was revealed: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman (compassionate one)". This means, call him by any of his 99 names, as narrated in a saheeh hadeeth from Tirmidhi.
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sister herb
01-02-2018, 04:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umie
No.
The Salat (the obligatory 5 times a day prayer) needs to be done in Arabic. Because you have to recite verses from the Quran during Salat. This can not be done in your own language. If you do not know arabic, then write it down in phoneatically arabic and read that during Salat. That is much better then memorizing the verses in your own language.
I think that this might sounds quite illogical to many new Muslims. They may think why Allah accepts only Arabic while praying.
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Ümit
01-02-2018, 09:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
I think that this might sounds quite illogical to many new Muslims. They may think why Allah accepts only Arabic while praying.
Sorry sister herb but reciting quran can only be done in original language. Every other language changes the content and it is not the same.
Reciting Quran is one of the farzd parts of the salat. So there is not much choice than to learn some verses in Arabic.

Like said...learning some verses in Arabic is quite easy because the Quran is poetic. And you do not have to learn the whole Quran for ypur salat.
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Nitro Zeus
01-04-2018, 08:22 PM
One thing, if I say “nu exista niciun al Dumnezeu decât unu, iar Muhamed este propfetul lui Dumnezeu” is this shahada accepted even if I said in Romanian language other than Arabic?
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99sobi
01-04-2018, 09:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
One thing, if I say “nu exista niciun al Dumnezeu decât unu, iar Muhamed este propfetul lui Dumnezeu” is this shahada accepted even if I said in Romanian language other than Arabic?
Yes, because "actions are by intentions". The intention is to take the testimony of faith, to become a Muslim by declaring that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is His messenger. As long as that belief is in your heart, there's no problem with doing dhikr or making du'a in a different language.
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Nitro Zeus
01-04-2018, 09:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 99sobi
Yes, because "actions are by intentions". The intention is to take the testimony of faith, to become a Muslim by declaring that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is His messenger. As long as that belief is in your heart, there's no problem with doing dhikr or making du'a in a different language.
And, is it accepte even if I say shahada millions of times, each night before I go to sleep? Will I get rewarded if I say the shahada all the time? And if I made 4 times kufr and is shahada again accepted? Because, I think I have done more than 4 times and I don’t like this, because I have made an oath to God that I will never commit kufr nor shirk till the end. Because, my wish is to die as a good strong believer as I promised to God.
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Saeeda Shaikh
01-05-2018, 05:25 AM
Asalaam Alikum, The wisdom behind praying in Arabic only is that it remind us the universal message of Lord and His oneness and give us spirit of unity and oneness among Ummah. It unite us together regardless of our race, color, nation or language. Religion of Islam is not just ritualistic religion, but inspire the person to be practical in all walk of life. While reading creator's message again and again, we ask for guidance that show us the straight path. This brings dynamic revolution to person's charchter since its is word of Allah. Quran says "those who have believed and their intellect is set at rest by the remembrance of Allaah. Unquestionably, only through the remembrance of Allaah do the minds find satisfaction"! (13 : 28). This is my views.
Allah knows best.
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