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xboxisdead
04-20-2018, 12:15 AM
I wanted to ask a question that have me thinking. With advanced in scientific technology and especially in reproductive technology, what is the Islamic saying toward lesbian or gay couple having children on their own without the interaction of the opposite gender? Would the child be a victim because it is born without a mother or a father or the child still have obligation to treat their parents well and give them their rights? I know in Muslim countries it will not happen..but the more and more and more we move away from the right path, such thing will happen in Muslim countries. It is already a major hype here in Western world.
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Eric H
04-20-2018, 08:03 AM
Greetings and peace be with you xboxisdead;

Sadly I see the secular world gaining the upper hand in the Western World; marriage is loosing it's meaning. It started about fifty years ago with the contraceptive pill, and this gives people the freedom to sleep around with little risk of pregnancy, but a greater risk of STDs.

Our town is arranging its first gay pride event and there seems little we can do to oppose it. I am in the process of talking with our local interfaith group, to see if together, we can represent conventional marriage at this event. We would be allowed to talk about the benefits of marriage for life, but we would not be allowed to talk about what we are against. Whatever stance we might take, it seems fraught with dangers and confrontation.

In the spirit of searching for God
Eric
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Zzz_
04-20-2018, 03:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
I wanted to ask a question that have me thinking. With advanced in scientific technology and especially in reproductive technology, what is the Islamic saying toward lesbian or gay couple having children on their own without the interaction of the opposite gender? Would the child be a victim because it is born without a mother or a father or the child still have obligation to treat their parents well and give them their rights? I know in Muslim countries it will not happen..but the more and more and more we move away from the right path, such thing will happen in Muslim countries. It is already a major hype here in Western world.
maybe in the arab world it'll happen as they are the ones that will follow the people of the book even if it means going through a lizard's hole per the hadith but this won't happen in other muslim nations, especially the subcontinent, the public knows how to put such deviants in their place. This is what Indian Muslims did to a vegan peta wanna bee lol

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XllxetqXV...egan%2Beid.jpg

http://www.india.com/wp-content/uplo...09/2492014.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...7-2_dblbig.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G3MDmqSMn...%2Bprotest.jpg
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azc
04-20-2018, 06:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
I wanted to ask a question that have me thinking. With advanced in scientific technology and especially in reproductive technology, what is the Islamic saying toward lesbian or gay couple having children on their own without the interaction of the opposite gender? Would the child be a victim because it is born without a mother or a father or the child still have obligation to treat their parents well and give them their rights? I know in Muslim countries it will not happen..but the more and more and more we move away from the right path, such thing will happen in Muslim countries. It is already a major hype here in Western world.
From Islamic point of view lesbian or gay marriage/relationship is prohibited..
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xboxisdead
04-20-2018, 07:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
From Islamic point of view lesbian or gay marriage/relationship is prohibited..


AL-HAMDOLILLAH IT IS PROHIBITED! AL-HAMDOLILLAH IT IS PROHIBITED! :Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill :Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill:Alhumdill :Alhumdill

But what about the ruling of lesbian and gay couples having kids though!! Would they be punished for doing such act? Because it is a destructive force to the opposite gender regardless of it two men doing it or two women doing it and confuses the child and gives the assumption that it is ok and there are no difference between the sexes and marriage is unnecessary or marriage can be done by gays or lesbianism. Gay act or lesbian is an evil force in my opinion they should not be allowed to have kids either! I want to know the ruling on this and the evil scientists who make this possible should be destroyed!

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format_quote Originally Posted by Zzz_
maybe in the arab world it'll happen as they are the ones that will follow the people of the book even if it means going through a lizard's hole per the hadith but this won't happen in other muslim nations, especially the subcontinent, the public knows how to put such deviants in their place. This is what Indian Muslims did to a vegan peta wanna bee lol

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XllxetqXV...egan%2Beid.jpg

http://www.india.com/wp-content/uplo...09/2492014.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...7-2_dblbig.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G3MDmqSMn...%2Bprotest.jpg
I am laughing my head off! Are you serious??! :heated::heated::heated::facepalm::facepalm::facep alm: * sigh * I am not surprised. Here in Canada I see muslimah with hijab taking her kids for halloween and letting their kids wear customs and some even celebrate christmas too :facepalm::facepalm: My brother and mom tells me it is your birthday and I keep telling her I do not celebrate birthday. There is no such thing as birthday in Islam. There is no such thing as mothers day even by the way, just for everyone here to understand. In Islam we do not celebrate mothers day...mothers day is an insult to mothers and any sister here who have their kids celebrate it should be offended and insulted and not be happy. Everyday is a mothers day it suppose to be. Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) already informed us how to treat our parents, our mothers and should not follow biddah....should not go astray. We should be an example of the rest of the world and inform people why we don't celebrate mothersday or fathersday or halloween........or valentine day.

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format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
Greetings and peace be with you xboxisdead;

Sadly I see the secular world gaining the upper hand in the Western World; marriage is loosing it's meaning. It started about fifty years ago with the contraceptive pill, and this gives people the freedom to sleep around with little risk of pregnancy, but a greater risk of STDs.

Our town is arranging its first gay pride event and there seems little we can do to oppose it. I am in the process of talking with our local interfaith group, to see if together, we can represent conventional marriage at this event. We would be allowed to talk about the benefits of marriage for life, but we would not be allowed to talk about what we are against. Whatever stance we might take, it seems fraught with dangers and confrontation.

In the spirit of searching for God
Eric

Unfortunately for you...you will not be able to convince any of your christian people...especially men the benefit of marriage when your society is pro female and anti-male. When your society gives 100% benefit to women for marriage and after divorce and screw your men royalty in family court law you will find so men hard to convince. When your society disrespect patriarchy and disrespect masculinity and put the idea that patriarchal society is an oppression to women and must be destroyed it is hard to convince your men to wanting to get married. It is like saying to your boy..."Boys are unnecessary. Boys are stupid. Boys are evil. We do not need you." Then right after..you should get married and get a job and take care of a woman. Huh?? :heated:^o):heated::heated: Whaat?! :heated:^o) This is your society. You need to fix your gender roles in your society first. Give your men and boys respect and tell them you are our leaders and head of the household and there is nothing wrong with patriarchy and teach them they need to be provider and protector of their women and then teach your women not to be verbally abusive to their men....ah fiddle...even better. Read how the prophet peace be upon him treat his wife and see how his wife treat her husband and see how Islam respect both genders and give them proper role then you emulate that in your society and you will find marriage a very lukirtive and appealing thing. Better yet...revert back to Islam. It is best for you in the afterlife and leave the falsehood and come back to the right path. You have more problems in your hand than just having a gay parade invading your country.
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Zzz_
04-20-2018, 07:09 PM
speaking of hijabis, i saw this really funny pic of an hijabi i want to share but it may not be appropriate for this place lol
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xboxisdead
04-20-2018, 09:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zzz_
speaking of hijabis, i saw this really funny pic of an hijabi i want to share but it may not be appropriate for this place lol
Heheh :D
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