Language

[Pinky]

Is there anyone who has any difficulty speaking their own language i.e Urdu? I feel this is an important subject to talk about. How have your parents taught you and anyone not pick it up well? And anyone as an adult find it difficult to learn and improve now?

[Alamgir]

Is there anyone who has any difficulty speaking their own language i.e Urdu? I feel this is an important subject to talk about. How have your parents taught you and anyone not pick it up well? And anyone as an adult find it difficult to learn and improve now?

Asalamu Alaikum

My ability to understand Urdu is pretty good, but I'm pretty terrible at trying to repeat the language for myself (but I'm improving). I do intend to properly learn the language, it isn't that difficult. You just need to learn the basic grammar, and from there just learn new words.

Urdu is excellent because it allows you to communicate with such a large number of people across Pakistan and Hindustan, it's also got the largest amount of Islamic literature of any language (yes, even more than Arabic).

Inshallah I will learn it so I can finally read Tafsir Al Tabari (it's not available in English, and learning Urdu is easier than learning Arabic).

Afterwards I also want to learn Gojri (pretty similar to Urdu so it shouldn't be tough), since I might as well go all the way and also learn the language of my ethnic group (Gujjars).

[*charisma*]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Well, if you speak more than one language, you will probably have some issues when speaking each simply because they are competing in your brain. I've learned 4 languages, and even though English is my strongest language, I sometimes will forget a very simple word in English but remember it in another language. Also if you're not using a language often, even if you can understand it, you will have difficulty speaking it because it's not your main use of communication. However, if you go to Pakistan for example, and no one there speaks English, and you're forced to speak Urdu to everyone, then you will actually pick it up very quickly and it will become much stronger than before. It's all about the circumstances you find yourself in, but the simple rule goes, "if you don't use it, you'll lose it!" :D

[Alamgir]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Well, if you speak more than one language, you will probably have some issues when speaking each simply because they are competing in your brain. I've learned 4 languages, and even though English is my strongest language, I sometimes will forget a very simple word in English but remember it in another language. Also if you're not using a language often, even if you can understand it, you will have difficulty speaking it because it's not your main use of communication. However, if you go to Pakistan for example, and no one there speaks English, and you're forced to speak Urdu to everyone, then you will actually pick it up very quickly and it will become much stronger than before. It's all about the circumstances you find yourself in, but the simple rule goes, "if you don't use it, you'll lose it!" :D

Walaikum Asalam

Except almost half of Pakistan can communicate in English. In fact, English is also the official language of Pakistab along with Urdu (all the major signs and government documents are in English, but a purge of English is being pursued).

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[*charisma*]

Walaikum Asalam

Except almost half of Pakistan can communicate in English. In fact, English is also the official language of Pakistab along with Urdu (all the major signs and government documents are in English, but a purge of English is being pursued).

There are many other countries though where English is not an official language nor used often, like in China for example. But even in Pakistan, I'd assume they'd rather speak in their mother tongue. My basic point was your speaking skills can be strengthened simply by using the language. It's always easier/faster to learn when you find the necessity in it.

[Abz2000]

I can't understand, speak, or write much bengali and can speak understand and speak Sylheti quite well -though it's not much of a current written language any more.
I think it's best to focus on Arabic and English since these to are the most useful in terms of ad-Dunya and al-Aakhirah and are familiar in all parts of the globe.

So many intellectuals now use Arabic and English in material and Spiritual treatises that it's wise to jump on the bandwagon ahead of the game since most other languages are going obsolete even in their motherlands.

English is all over soap bars and light bulbs and toothpastes and most other commercial equipment and interestingly has the most number of Quran interpretations on the planet.

Arabic is a must for anyone who seeks to understand what they are praying and how to conduct themselves as the best of creation - above animals and heedless humans - and to be able to absorb the depth and intricate detailed dimensional texture of the Quran - unless they want to be categorized with parables to donkeys and drunkards by Allah :swt:

So in sum - the only use i see in languages other than Arabic and English are their transient communication value, and the need for their preservation for the sake of reference - a bit like how heiroglyphics professors are needed in order to understand certain details of ancient Egypt.

I project that Arabic and English are the languages of future generations and investment in these will streamline progress and make brain memory usage efficient - although Arabic needs the "pa" after the "ba".

My fav bollywood accent:
I'reely think you nouvat i'am saying - haqq eemaandaari aur muhabbat se.

[Alamgir]

I can't understand, speak, or write much bengali and can speak understand and speak Sylheti quite well -though it's not much of a current written language any more.
I think it's best to focus on Arabic and English since these to are the most useful in terms of ad-Dunya and al-Aakhirah and are familiar in all parts of the globe.

So many intellectuals now use Arabic and English in material and Spiritual treatises that it's wise to jump on the bandwagon ahead of the game since most other languages are going obsolete even in their motherlands.

English is all over soap bars and light bulbs and toothpastes and most other commercial equipment and interestingly has the most number of Quran interpretations on the planet.

Arabic is a must for anyone who seeks to understand what they are praying and how to conduct themselves as the best of creation - above animals and heedless humans - and to be able to absorb the depth and intricate detailed dimensional texture of the Quran - unless they want to be categorized with parables to donkeys and drunkards by Allah :swt:

So in sum - the only use i see in languages other than Arabic and English are their transient communication value, and the need for their preservation for the sake of reference - a bit like how heiroglyphics professors are needed in order to understand certain details of ancient Egypt.

I project that Arabic and English are the languages of future generations and investment in these will streamline progress and make brain memory usage efficient - although Arabic needs the "pa" after the "ba".

My fav bollywood accent:
I'reely think you nouvat i'am saying - haqq eemaandaari aur muhabbat se.

Asalamu Alaikum

I don't think Arabic will take off anytime soon. There are too many dialects, and there's no new motivation to learn it that hasn't already been there.

[Abz2000]

Asalamu Alaikum

I don't think Arabic will take off anytime soon. There are too many dialects, and there's no new motivation to learn it that hasn't already been there.

Prepare to be surprised! Coz it's either this or the nuuude!!! :)


BTW. I Think i might die soon, and i want to get me and my children into Madinah educational establishments ASAP where it's illegal in community to play haraami, and when you admonish someone with Allah's guidance, they are obliged to listen, coz everything else seems to be crumbling - can anyone get anyone they know to get us some recommendations?
I will sell or put as collateral every piece of property i have if necessary (apart from my clothes and a few halaal necessities - obviously) as guarantee of focused sincerity.
I can fix computers etc and shouldn't find it difficult getting a job or buying and selling online inshaAllah.

I state this on the internet whilst praying to Allah and not to any single individual because it's the most likely pool to put my request in and get an answer.

This is not a joke, i pray that someone takes notice for Allah's sake and contacts me ASAP.


Here are some accounts which inspired me:

[Abz2000]

Here's one i just came across now - deeply pondering and wanting to learn Arabic simply because he heard the Quran - and there'll be millions like him soon InshaAllah.

[Alamgir]

Here's one i just came across now - deeply pondering and wanting to learn Arabic simply because he heard the Quran - and there'll be millions like him soon InshaAllah.

Unlikely, this will only promote Quranic studies.

[ardianto]

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Is there anyone who has any difficulty speaking their own language i.e Urdu? I feel this is an important subject to talk about. How have your parents taught you and anyone not pick it up well? And anyone as an adult find it difficult to learn and improve now?

I come from Java ethnic. But I was born and grew up in Sunda ethnic region, and my parents always talked to me in Indonesian language, although they usually spoke Javanese to our relatives. So I cannot speak Javanese correctly. But I can speak Sundanese because most of my friends speak Sundanese.

Did I ever tried to improve my Javanese language ability?. Yes. When I studied in Yogyakarta, center of Javanese culture, I tried to communicate in Javanese with random people. However, when I tried to speak Javanese, usually I got replied in Indonesian language. :D

[Abz2000]

Unlikely, this will only promote Quranic studies.

That's what i'm talking about, it is for the sake of Allah's Word and other source material that the Arabic language is gaining and will increase in traction - the secularist world dream has approached rock bottom and it is the impending economic shake-up that will force people to take notice despite the distractions.

[JustTime]

Asalamu Alaikum

My ability to understand Urdu is pretty good, but I'm pretty terrible at trying to repeat the language for myself (but I'm improving). I do intend to properly learn the language, it isn't that difficult. You just need to learn the basic grammar, and from there just learn new words.

Urdu is excellent because it allows you to communicate with such a large number of people across Pakistan and Hindustan, it's also got the largest amount of Islamic literature of any language (yes, even more than Arabic).

Inshallah I will learn it so I can finally read Tafsir Al Tabari (it's not available in English, and learning Urdu is easier than learning Arabic).

Afterwards I also want to learn Gojri (pretty similar to Urdu so it shouldn't be tough), since I might as well go all the way and also learn the language of my ethnic group (Gujjars).

Arabic is way easier than Urdu, I'm not Pakistani but reading Urdu is a mess and all the words sound the same like "e" this "e" that, it's probably because I'm not a Pakistani that it's harder for me.

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Here's one i just came across now - deeply pondering and wanting to learn Arabic simply because he heard the Quran - and there'll be millions like him soon InshaAllah.

Wallahi listening to this man brought some tears remembering how it is the nature of man to be called to Islam and how the fitra of man responds to the Quran, the speech of Allah, I ask Allah to guide him he even stated he rejects idols and believes in one God, Subhan'Allah May Allah guide him to Islam.

[Alamgir]

Arabic is way easier than Urdu, I'm not Pakistani but reading Urdu is a mess and all the words sound the same like "e" this "e" that, it's probably because I'm not a Pakistani that it's harder for me.

Asalamu Alaikum

It does depend on where you are from. I find speaking/understanding Urdu easier simply because I am more exposed to it. However, Urdu does have some quirks that just don't make sense (e.g for some words you just have to know whether or not to pronounce them in a masculine or feminine way).

Arabic is only easier for me to read/write in, the script is more straight forward and less stylised than Urdu.

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That's what i'm talking about, it is for the sake of Allah's Word and other source material that the Arabic language is gaining and will increase in traction - the secularist world dream has approached rock bottom and it is the impending economic shake-up that will force people to take notice despite the distractions.

The Arabic language will not become a world renowned language again just because interest in Islam starts increasing. People's interest in Islam has been increasing at a steady rate over the past few decades, but has Arabic's global influence increased with it? No. I doubt Arabic will overtake English anytime soon.

What "economic shake-up"? The West is going to remain the dominant economic power for quite a while. Even when they get replaced, it won't be by an Arabic speaking country, it would be by China. The only Muslim countries that have a rapidly growing economy are non-Arab Muslim countries, e.g Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

Unless a miracle happens, Arabic will remain a language only for the Arabs and some (but not all) of the more religious-minded among us.

[Abz2000]

Asalamu Alaikum


The Arabic language will not become a world renowned language again just because interest in Islam starts increasing. People's interest in Islam has been increasing at a steady rate over the past few decades, but has Arabic's global influence increased with it? No. I doubt Arabic will overtake English anytime soon.

What "economic shake-up"? The West is going to remain the dominant economic power for quite a while. Even when they get replaced, it won't be by an Arabic speaking country, it would be by China. The only Muslim countries that have a rapidly growing economy are non-Arab Muslim countries, e.g Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.

Unless a miracle happens, Arabic will remain a language only for the Arabs and some (but not all) of the more religious-minded among us.

Allah knows best.