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anatolian
08-23-2018, 02:49 PM
Although I continously criticize Erdoğan because of his mistaken and deliberate wrong politics, we cant ignore the ongoing American financial attacks on the Turkish economy. America by the command of Trump withdrew most of Its dollar from the Turkish market and this caused a rapid rise of dollar against the Turkish lira and since dollar is used as the international trade currency the Turkish Lira decreased against all currencies. As you know that means devaluation and then inflation and finally economic crisis in the country.

That is done because of the ongoing relations between Turkey and the East (Russia, China and Iran) and especially the current Turkish Chinese trade deals. America is preparing for a war with these countries and their first target is to destroy the Chinese economic power. They know that In a possible hot war with Russia the enemy cannot economically support it long time without the help of China and Turkey which is a member of NATO cannot be left to the hands of the enemy.

Turkey’s president: US waging “economic war” against Turkey
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.3b2b882ec9e2
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Abz2000
08-23-2018, 03:16 PM
If the people of turkey traded their dollars for grain and other storable and consumable goods such as steel, copper, poultry and cattle feed, their trade would have been profitable.
The only reason why the dollar was worth anything is because people accepted their own enslavement by trading gold for dollars and other promissory pledge notes when the dollar was temporarily pegged to gold - and since the rothschilds (alchemists) had a monopoly on gold and could raise and lower its value via manipulating the exchanges and via speculation - gold too would have been a liability - although not as bad as the dollar or lira.
Regarding china vs america vs fulaan vs fulaan - it's simply a facade for those who control the usury system - they took over the chinese economy during the opium wars and still excercise artificial control over all artificial markets whilst they continually enslave the masses of peoples who put themselves in the wromg by rejecting Allah :swt: and by willingly accepting usury - and oppress those who refuse usury -by artificially inflating market housing and commodity prices.


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Tulip mania (Dutch: tulpenmanie) was a period in the Dutch Golden Age during which contract prices for some bulbs of the recently introduced and fashionable tulip reached extraordinarily high levels and then dramatically collapsed in February 1637.[2]

It is generally considered the first recorded speculative bubble;[3]

although some researchers have noted that the Kipper und Wipper (literally "Tipper and See-Saw") episode in 1619–1622, a Europe-wide chain of debasement of the metal content of coins to fund warfare, featured mania-like similarities to a bubble.[4]

In many ways, the tulip mania was more of a hitherto unknown socio-economic phenomenon than a significant economic crisis.

Historically, it had no critical influence on the prosperity of the Dutch Republic, the world's leading economic and financial power in the 17th century.[5][6][7]

Also, from about 1600 to 1720 the Dutch had the highest per capita income in the world.

The term "tulip mania" is now often used metaphorically to refer to any large economic bubble when asset prices deviate from intrinsic values.[8]

In Europe, formal futures markets appeared in the Dutch Republic during the 17th century. Among the most notable centered on the tulip market, at the height of tulip mania.[9][10]

At the peak of tulip mania, in February 1637, some single tulip bulbs sold for more than 10 times the annual income of a skilled craftsworker.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania




This was a very informative and educational movie about economic manipulation and its relationship to politics:

I know it's black and white - but it's more enlightening than fifty shades of annabelle neilson. (Though i didn't watch "loving annabelle" - i just read up on it on wikipedia after reading about his rumpus magazine's page 7.

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سيف الله
08-23-2018, 10:12 PM
Salaam

There is something else going on, it cant just be about this pastor.

I agree Erdogan has made many 'mistakes' (or more like deliberate policy decisions), particularly on the economic front, he needs to put Turkey on a firmer economic foundation and move towards a policy of self sustainability and self reliance, of course it can never be 100% but better that than allowing the globalists to keep you under their thumb.
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anatolian
08-24-2018, 08:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
If the people of turkey traded their dollars for grain and other storable and consumable goods such as steel, copper, poultry and cattle feed, their trade would have been profitable.
The only reason why the dollar was worth anything is because people accepted their own enslavement by trading gold for dollars and other promissory pledge notes when the dollar was temporarily pegged to gold - and since the rothschilds (alchemists) had a monopoly on gold and could raise and lower its value via manipulating the exchanges and via speculation - gold too would have been a liability - although not as bad as the dollar or lira.
Regarding china vs america vs fulaan vs fulaan - it's simply a facade for those who control the usury system - they took over the chinese economy during the opium wars and still excercise artificial control over all artificial markets whilst they continually enslave the masses of peoples who put themselves in the wromg by rejecting Allah :swt: and by willingly accepting usury - and oppress those who refuse usury -by artificially inflating market housing and commodity prices.


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Tulip mania (Dutch: tulpenmanie) was a period in the Dutch Golden Age during which contract prices for some bulbs of the recently introduced and fashionable tulip reached extraordinarily high levels and then dramatically collapsed in February 1637.[2]

It is generally considered the first recorded speculative bubble;[3]

although some researchers have noted that the Kipper und Wipper (literally "Tipper and See-Saw") episode in 1619–1622, a Europe-wide chain of debasement of the metal content of coins to fund warfare, featured mania-like similarities to a bubble.[4]

In many ways, the tulip mania was more of a hitherto unknown socio-economic phenomenon than a significant economic crisis.

Historically, it had no critical influence on the prosperity of the Dutch Republic, the world's leading economic and financial power in the 17th century.[5][6][7]

Also, from about 1600 to 1720 the Dutch had the highest per capita income in the world.

The term "tulip mania" is now often used metaphorically to refer to any large economic bubble when asset prices deviate from intrinsic values.[8]

In Europe, formal futures markets appeared in the Dutch Republic during the 17th century. Among the most notable centered on the tulip market, at the height of tulip mania.[9][10]

At the peak of tulip mania, in February 1637, some single tulip bulbs sold for more than 10 times the annual income of a skilled craftsworker.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania




This was a very informative and educational movie about economic manipulation and its relationship to politics:

I know it's black and white - but it's more enlightening than fifty shades of annabelle neilson. (Though i didn't watch "loving annabelle" - i just read up on it on wikipedia after reading about his rumpus magazine's page 7.

You continue to surprise me each post. Where from did you find a 1940 german made movie about a jewish banker family? :D You know hitler had most of his money to fund the military from these jewish banks. These jews can rule any country with their money. They could even rule the Nazi germany..
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Abz2000
08-24-2018, 09:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian
You continue to surprise me each post. Where from did you find a 1940 german made movie about a jewish banker family? :D You know hitler had most of his money to fund the military from these jewish banks. These jews can rule any country with their money. They could even rule the Nazi germany..
When a conspiracy takes place - it is only a few controllers who are in the know - the majority of operatives are simply zealous dupes actually believing their undertaking to be either aimed towards noble ends or for selfish personal gain.
Not everybody in Nazi germany knew that they were being spurred on by the zionist criminal masterminds - otherwise there would have been no turmoil.

Consider the fact that "juden raus" was a private (most probably zionist) enterprise, and that the nazis even condemned it:


Juden Raus! (1936)

Juden Raus! (lit. "Jews Out!") is a Cross and Circle-style game published in Germany by Günther & Co. in 1936.[3][4] The game was advertised as "entertaining, instructive and solidly constructed."[5] The game's equipment includes a pair of dice, a game board, and several game piece figurines with large pointed hats meant to represent Jews.[6]

Players take turns rolling the dice and moving their "Jews" across the map toward "collection points" outside the city walls for deportation to Mandate Palestine.[7] Written on the game board, it says "If you manage to see off 6 Jews, you’ve won a clear victory!"[6]

Juden Raus is a commercial boardgame rather than a Nazi propaganda effort,[8] and contains no Nazi symbolism.[9] The game was officially criticized by the SS journal Das Schwarze Korps, which believed the game trivialized anti-Semitic policies.[9] Ben Barkow of the holocaust museum at the Wiener Library recounts it being documented as a "considerable commercial success", with possibly a million copies of it being sold.[8][9] However, an article in the International Society for Board Game Studies Journal suggests that the game's commercial performance may never actually be known because it may have been exaggerated in advertising material. The article considers it unlikely that the game could have been successful in Germany after having been condemned by the SS.[9]

The article published by the International Society for Board Game Studies calls it "[h]istory's most infamous board game". The review says, "Juden Raus! shows that after decades of propaganda, anti-Semitism was so deeply rooted in German society in the 1930s, that someone thought it would be a good subject for a children’s game.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_board_games
This is an indication that not all so-called nationalist efforts were controlled directly by the nazi leadership and that people and groups of various leanings and takes on the issue were putting their own slants forward.


Anyway, brainstorm it - if you had moneychanging ancestors running down from Sulaiman :as: 's time who had clashed with Jesus and later moved to europe after the expulsion of jews by the romans, and knew about the confiscated arts buried under Sulaiman :as: 's throne, then financed crusades (only "jews" were allowed to practice usury from non-jews in roman converted europe) started big archaelogical digs, run travel-money changing rackets with for piligrims and tourists travelling to the holy land - had spent the best part of the last century gearing up primarily from London to set up a godless shell state of israel - and your brother who was running the german operations died without leaving heirs, and the german front was shuttered, and you'd played the monarchs and got the land but not enough settlers with european ties - and the jews you'd been entertaining and nurturing were mostly german, and you wanted to use hitler as a tool.... would you:
a. sit directly with hitler in meetings.
b. knowing that political leaders are hostage to financiers - keep it "real" simply by getting a front financier to act as handler and director claiming to have a grudge against you?

Also consider the status of barings and how the pan-european rothschilds took over their public position as primary bankers after the waterloo war games and stock market monopolozation:


Barings helped to finance the United States government during the War of 1812.[9] By 1818, Barings was called "the sixth great European power", after England, France, Prussia, Austria and Russia.[5] A fall off in business and some poor leadership in 1820s caused Barings to cede its dominance in the City of London to the rival firm of N M Rothschild & Sons.
With the failure of Barings, N M Rothschild & Sons is the only name remaining from the glory days of 19th-century British merchant banking.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barings_Bank




I found it accidentally when researching the story of nathaniel rothschild and anastasia steele....err....anna....belle? And his days in oxford and the bullingdon with osborne and cameron and isis.
But you've got to admit - it's a high quality movie though.


Think about these musings in January: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...yal-of-the-u-s


Now that the east india company financiers own more than fifty percent of the turkish stock market - it appears they are playing poker.
What do you think - they like to make a profit so they expect the turkish government to back down on the kurdish border scenario - but know that they plan to short it before the global collapse - or simply use the turkish economy as a primary domino for the next controlled demolition of the global economy since they always make a profit and short it before a messy collapse anyway.
Either way - the fiat economy game will not end happily ever after and people will need to look to useful goods as money instead of the digital smoke money being prepared by the usurers for the world's people.
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