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Nitro Zeus
01-08-2019, 06:46 PM
Then Adam had another son. When he grew up he was married to a Jinn woman and she gave birth to four girls. Later, [Edited Out]h's sons were married to the daughters of the Jinn woman."- Ibid p. 91

I wonder, if human jinn hybrids do exist, then do human-jinn hybrids can have the Permission from God to move from one Universe to another? Becausd, I heard that God has prohibited to Jinns to travel from this heaven to another, only we humans can.
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نور الرحمن
03-13-2020, 12:04 PM
The First Thing that Allah created was the Veil then the Book and the Pen and He said to the Pen write, it replied what shall I write? He said write something that is nothing like Him nor nothing before Him and then the Pen wrote three words, which is Thy 100th name.

Then He wrote all their is in that Book from a mosquito and above from an atom and above and all that will occur and happen.

He created Angels from light.
He created Jinn from the fire of hell.
He created mankind from what you know.

He created the Universe in six days and countdown started from Friday to Friday timely measured calculated to the second by His estimation.

He created four worlds in confirmation:{6. To Him belongs what is in the heavens and the earth, and what is between them, and what is beneath the soil.}

1- The Heavens is the world of the angels.
2- The Earth is the world of mankind.
3- Between them is the world of the tormented.
4- A world beneath the soil we stand upon.

The beneath world is a land none of the Muslims in Mohammed's generation has ever stepped foot on and it is the land that we will inherit after the Greatest and Biggest War between Good and Evil in the history of creation in confirmation:{27. And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions, and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} and this part:{And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions} refers to Khaybar in which the Muslims inherited from the Jews and the other part:{and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} Is the upcoming promise to inherit a region, a world none has ever seen and Praise be to the Ruler of the land of Two sunrises and Two sunsets.

Regarding your enquiry my fellow brother you answer lies in His self explanatory saying:{128. On the Day when He gathers them all together: “O assembly of jinn, you have increased in multitudes of humans.” Their adherents among mankind will say, “Our Lord, we have enjoyed one another, but we have reached the term that you have assigned for us.” He will say, “The Fire is your dwelling, wherein you will remain, except as Allah wills. Your Lord is Wise and Informed.}
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Nitro Zeus
03-13-2020, 03:38 PM
Originally Posted by نور الرحمن
The First Thing that Allah created was the Veil then the Book and the Pen and He said to the Pen write, it replied what shall I write? He said write something that is nothing like Him nor nothing before Him and then the Pen wrote three words, which is Thy 100th name.

Then He wrote all their is in that Book from a mosquito and above from an atom and above and all that will occur and happen.

He created Angels from light.
He created Jinn from the fire of hell.
He created mankind from what you know.

He created the Universe in six days and countdown started from Friday to Friday timely measured calculated to the second by His estimation.

He created four worlds in confirmation:{6. To Him belongs what is in the heavens and the earth, and what is between them, and what is beneath the soil.}

1- The Heavens is the world of the angels.
2- The Earth is the world of mankind.
3- Between them is the world of the tormented.
4- A world beneath the soil we stand upon.

The beneath world is a land none of the Muslims in Mohammed's generation has ever stepped foot on and it is the land that we will inherit after the Greatest and Biggest War between Good and Evil in the history of creation in confirmation:{27. And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions, and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} and this part:{And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions} refers to Khaybar in which the Muslims inherited from the Jews and the other part:{and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} Is the upcoming promise to inherit a region, a world none has ever seen and Praise be to the Ruler of the land of Two sunrises and Two sunsets.

Regarding your enquiry my fellow brother you answer lies in His self explanatory saying:{128. On the Day when He gathers them all together: “O assembly of jinn, you have increased in multitudes of humans.” Their adherents among mankind will say, “Our Lord, we have enjoyed one another, but we have reached the term that you have assigned for us.” He will say, “The Fire is your dwelling, wherein you will remain, except as Allah wills. Your Lord is Wise and Informed.}
Are you sure that the Jinns are created from the fire of Hell? Last time I checked, they created from smockeless fire and nowhere says that they created from fire of Hell as far as I know. If you are certain of this, can you please bring clear proof of your claims from Quran and Sunnah?
Can you please bring an explanation this phrase "you have increased multitudes of humans"? I really dont understand its true meaning.
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نور الرحمن
03-14-2020, 07:30 AM
In the name of Allah and peace be upon all in this site even those who don't understand our statements for that it started strange and it will return strange and peace be upon Nitro, I am sad to say that Allah does not wish for you to get your answer for that the Islamic Board can not accept our statement twice for that it is something they never heard from the scholars and those before them peace be upon them all and it is a new interpretation to them the board members and what it new is unwanted and will be banished it except for those who listen and process it in their minds is it from Allah's book or from our forefathers' but most of us follow our forefathers over Allah and that is the truth black and white in the Quran and your answer dear Nitro has been rejected twice so it was not destined to be released but if Allah wishes it will some other time and praise be upon Him.
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Scimitar
03-14-2020, 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Are you sure that the Jinns are created from the fire of Hell? Last time I checked, they created from smockeless fire and nowhere says that they created from fire of Hell as far as I know. If you are certain of this, can you please bring clear proof of your claims from Quran and Sunnah?
Can you please bring an explanation this phrase "you have increased multitudes of humans"? I really dont understand its true meaning.
I also wanna know his answer to that. He did a very slippery escape move though.
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نور الرحمن
03-14-2020, 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Scimitar
I also wanna know his answer to that. He did a very slippery escape move though.

If I am allowed by the moderator to post my statement it is ready for posting but rejected unjustly twice dear, may God bliss you.
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Avis
03-15-2020, 12:37 AM
Yes, Jinn are made from smokeless fire (Click on the link at the bottom of my post for more information). Please don't take knowledge from random people on the internet, especially not from someone who doesn't link to their sources. You should be even more suspicious of people who have recently joined the forum. IslamQA is a good site to get information, they are not perfect, but they provide lots of evidence for their rulings.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/13378/the-jinn

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Scimitar
03-15-2020, 09:28 AM
Originally Posted by نور الرحمن
If I am allowed by the moderator to post my statement it is ready for posting but rejected unjustly twice dear, may God bliss you.
Private message your answer to me!
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keiv
03-15-2020, 01:30 PM
Good luck! Private messages are moderated as well.
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eesa the kiwi
03-17-2020, 09:12 AM
Originally Posted by Scimitar
Private message your answer to me!
Dont bother it was weird esoteric garbage with no trace of daleel. Heres an excerpt so you understand why it was deleted

When Adam ate from the forbidden tree He was isolated from His title as a Caliphate and the replacement Caliphate was one of the close Angels whom was in severe denial for Adam and that Angel was Marut. He was an angel who got transformed to a Man thinking he will be able to do a better Job than Adam but soon lost to his lusts and gave up on God's mercy and Allah said:
{16. Like the devil, when he says to the human being, “Disbelieve.” But when he has disbelieved, he says, “I am innocent of you; I fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.”17. The ultimate end for both of them is the Fire, where they will dwell forever. Such is the requital for the wrongdoers.}
The devil in this verse is Iblis aka Harut which is one of his many names in the Holy Book and the human being in this verse is a specification to a certain human being which is Marut and it is not a generalization, and the ultimate end for both of them is Fire.


1- Harut's offspring are Gog and they are Jinn.
2- Marut's offspring are Magog and they are Humans.
3- A hybrid between Jinn and Humans.
I got accused of being cattle with no brain for deleting posts similar to this
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Scimitar
03-17-2020, 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by eesa the kiwi
Dont bother it was weird esoteric garbage with no trace of daleel. Heres an excerpt so you understand why it was deleted [snip]


I got accused of being cattle with no brain for deleting posts similar to this
Hardly surprising tbh, he is delusional and anything/anyone that doesn't fit with his wild meandering thoughts would be considered such by him. The moment I read him referring to himself as "We" I knew this guy was a moron. Not trying to offend. Just can't find a word nicer than moron to describe him.

Good job on deleting his garbage!!
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MazharShafiq
03-17-2020, 11:02 AM
Originally Posted by نور الرحمن
The First Thing that Allah created was the Veil then the Book and the Pen and He said to the Pen write, it replied what shall I write? He said write something that is nothing like Him nor nothing before Him and then the Pen wrote three words, which is Thy 100th name.

Then He wrote all their is in that Book from a mosquito and above from an atom and above and all that will occur and happen.

He created Angels from light.
He created Jinn from the fire of hell.
He created mankind from what you know.

He created the Universe in six days and countdown started from Friday to Friday timely measured calculated to the second by His estimation.

He created four worlds in confirmation:{6. To Him belongs what is in the heavens and the earth, and what is between them, and what is beneath the soil.}

1- The Heavens is the world of the angels.
2- The Earth is the world of mankind.
3- Between them is the world of the tormented.
4- A world beneath the soil we stand upon.

The beneath world is a land none of the Muslims in Mohammed's generation has ever stepped foot on and it is the land that we will inherit after the Greatest and Biggest War between Good and Evil in the history of creation in confirmation:{27. And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions, and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} and this part:{And He made you inherit their land, and their homes, and their possessions} refers to Khaybar in which the Muslims inherited from the Jews and the other part:{and a region you have never stepped on. Allah has power over all things.} Is the upcoming promise to inherit a region, a world none has ever seen and Praise be to the Ruler of the land of Two sunrises and Two sunsets.

Regarding your enquiry my fellow brother you answer lies in His self explanatory saying:{128. On the Day when He gathers them all together: “O assembly of jinn, you have increased in multitudes of humans.” Their adherents among mankind will say, “Our Lord, we have enjoyed one another, but we have reached the term that you have assigned for us.” He will say, “The Fire is your dwelling, wherein you will remain, except as Allah wills. Your Lord is Wise and Informed.}
agreed
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Avis
03-17-2020, 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by eesa the kiwi
Dont bother it was weird esoteric garbage with no trace of daleel. Heres an excerpt so you understand why it was deleted


I got accused of being cattle with no brain for deleting posts similar to this
I would just like to know where people come up with this trash and how people can be so gullible to believe it without any evidence.
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Nitro Zeus
03-22-2020, 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Scimitar
Hardly surprising tbh, he is delusional and anything/anyone that doesn't fit with his wild meandering thoughts would be considered such by him. The moment I read him referring to himself as "We" I knew this guy was a moron. Not trying to offend. Just can't find a word nicer than moron to describe him.

Good job on deleting his garbage!!
Hey, I have a perfect description of him. The perfect description of him is that he is Wahhabi, because only a Wahhabi have this kind of mentality which that has. It's obvious to me that he misinterpretate Quran and Sunnah. Because, a Wahhabi misinterpretate Quran and Sunnah like that user have done.

Am I right?
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Scimitar
03-23-2020, 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Hey, I have a perfect description of him. The perfect description of him is that he is Wahhabi, because only a Wahhabi have this kind of mentality which that has. It's obvious to me that he misinterpretate Quran and Sunnah. Because, a Wahhabi misinterpretate Quran and Sunnah like that user have done.

Am I right?
Somewhat. Thing is bro Nitro, you don’t have to a “wahhabi” to misinterpret the Quran. Even Shia do that, and so do Muslims from other sects.
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MazharShafiq
03-23-2020, 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by Avis
I would just like to know where people come up with this trash and how people can be so gullible to believe it without any evidence.
exactly.
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Nitro Zeus
03-23-2020, 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by Scimitar
Somewhat. Thing is bro Nitro, you don’t have to a “wahhabi” to misinterpret the Quran. Even Shia do that, and so do Muslims from other sects.
Yeah but, compared to Shias. Wahhabis even insult the non Wahhabis such as Sunnis and Shias for not agreeing with the ideology of the Wahhabis. And Wahhabis in fact, are worst than Shias. But even shias do not insult Sunnis for not agreeinf with their ideology. Atleast, Shias know how to behave properly than Wahhabis, Wahhabis are not open minded people and because of this problem, many non Muslims portrayts as Islam being a death cult when in reality it is Wahhabi Islam a death cult.

Personally as a Sunni, I have no problem with the misinterpretation of Quran by Shias, so as long as they do not exagerate and go even further astray like Wahhabis are. I really don't care that Shias believe Ali or who the heck is Ali to be a Prophet after Muhammad. WhatI do care is that Shias atleast they do not misinterpretate as such that they begin even to become killers like Wahhabis
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Scimitar
03-23-2020, 02:15 PM
I think a death cult is a death cult. Ignorant people sometimes tend to be quite rude to those who do not share their views. Like I said before, you could hail from any sect and be informed, kind, respectable, tolerant of others but it is the misinformed ones who do all the trash talking.

Sadly, each sect has misinformed followers to some degree or the other.
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