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Ümit
Really? Then I would like to know what their arguments would be to question the word of Allah over a hadeeth...If you could provide that...that would be great.
Well it's called Sunni Islam for a reason. As one of the scholars (forgot his name) said, Quran needs the Sunnah more than the Sunnah needing the Quran. This is why overwhelming majority of fiqh is based on hadiths not Quran.
https://seekersguidance.org/answers/...ate-the-quran/
Sunna Abrogation of Qur’an
There were two main opinions on this matter:
(1) The Hanafis, Imam Malik, and most theologians maintained that the Qur’an can be abrogated by a Sunna that is established by multiple-chain transmission [mutawatir] or by a Sunna that is well-known [mash’hura], “well-known” according to the Hanafis meaning a prophetic report that is accepted and implemented by the vast majority of jurists such that it is akin to multiple-chain transmission.
Imam Karkhi narrates that Imam Abu Yusuf [one of the two companions of Abu Hanifa] said, “It is valid for the Qur’an to be abrogated by the likes of the report of wiping over leather socks [khuffs], which is well-known [mash’hur].” Incidentally, this is the example you brought up in your question.
(2) Imam Shafi’i, most scholars of his school, and [according to one narration] Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal maintained that the Qur’an is not abrogated by the Sunna. Imam Shafi’i stated this in his famous “Epistle” [al-Risala]. There was some disagreement, however, among Shafi’i scholars as to whether the Imam meant that it is not possible or simply that it never occurred.
It surprises me to see Imam Hanbal reject sunna abrogation because I learnt about sunnah abrogation of Quran from Salafists, and generally they are hanbali.
But then again Salafis specialize in not sticking to one madhab and choosing what they feel is appropriate from time to time. But I remember coming across this phenomenon of hadith abrogating Quran in a Jihadi thread, where people were using hadith to abrogate a Quranic verse.