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Zafran
I disagree - take UK for example, the vast majority of people are ignorant of Islam and only know what the news or the friend down the street tells them. Its alot like Muslims and Buddhism for example. Most people are either to invested in the paradigm they live in eg liberalism Pro LGBT stuff or right wing racism. The common person is told that religion is outdated and that Muslims are backwards. They watch the news and go online and thats what they see and of course conclude they don't want any part of it.
The Muslims sometimes do stupid stuff and that magnifies what the society tells them. So I dont think they have rejected Islam. There are of course people that hate Islam and are enemies of Islam but even they can change - we have plenty of examples of that recently from far right party members becoming Muslim.
God decides who Goes to heaven and hell - some are mentioned in the Quran by name others are alluded,that includes the Hypocrites.
You are right in terms of how God might judge them, however what I said about judging on the apparent is correct brother and that's been the Islamic way for last 14 centuries:
Logically, if rejecting an essential part is
kufr, then rejecting the whole is a priori kufr. For this reason, Muslims have traditionally seen non-Muslims as kuff¥r (disbelievers), as they are not part of the fold of Islam.
The legal status of a k¥r is important to ascertain, as a k¥r does not inherit from Muslims, nor do Muslims inherit from a k¥r Moreover, a k¥r is not buried according to Islamic funeral rites, NOR IS HE OR SHE PRAYED FOR AFTER DEATH BY MUSLIMS. .
The Prophet Mu^ammad said, “I was commanded to judge by the outward, and to God is left the [ matter of judging] inner realities.”
https://www.scribd.com/document/2153...e-Disbelievers
and here is the reason why non-Muslims are not prayed for after their death:
As for after their death, it is impermissible (haram) to make dua for forgiveness and the like for a non-Muslim, for Allah Most High said, “It is not for the Prophet and those who believe to pray for the forgiveness of unbelievers even though they may be near of kin after it has become clear that they are people of hell-fire.” [Qur’an, 9: 113]
https://www.seekersguidance.org/answ...o-passed-away/