Originally Posted by bint e aisha
You cannot compare eating meat to plants and vegetables that is not on. If we could not eat vegetables then we would starve. I agree to a certain extent with your post. All food whether it be meat or veg can be unethical. Ie if food id produced by illicit means ie by robbing the poor then that food will be deemed as being unethical food.
ie if meat is produced in a factory that causes more harm then that is unethical and unmoral.
It is about striking a healthy balance. Ie over producing vegetables can cause soil desegregation and is harmful to the planet.
In the Dharmic faiths eating meat is discouraged.
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Originally Posted by keiv
Kiev, animals eating other animals is perfectly acceptable. We cant do the same as we are above animals. God has given us a higher level of intelligence to know right from wrong.
Killing animals to feed our hunger when there is plenty of veg available is wrong. How would you like it if a animal ate you for his dinner?
Dharmic faiths are more ethical and fair on the world and society . Islam, Christianity and Judasim is all about wants and needs to satisfy oneself.
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Originally Posted by Physicist
Killing animals in halal method which is exactly the same as kosher method has been proven to be very painful to the animal. It is a barbaric practice that was carried out in the dark ages. We have much more humane techniques to slaughter animals these days. Such as stunning. But Jews and muslims still practice old inhumane methods that are outdated.
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Medieval rabbis such as Joseph Albo
and Isaac Arama
regarded vegetarianism as a moral ideal,
and a number of modern Jewish groups and Jewish religious and cultural authorities have promoted vegetarianism. Groups advocating for Jewish vegetarianism include Jewish Veg
, a contemporary grassroots
organization promoting veganism as "God's ideal diet"
, and the Shamayim V'Aretz Institute, which promotes a vegan diet in the Jewish community through animal welfare activism, kosher veganism, and Jewish spirituality.
One source of advocacy for Jewish vegetarianism in Israel is Amirim
, a vegetarian moshav
has named 75 contemporary rabbis who encourage veganism for all Jews, including Jonathan Wittenberg
, Daniel Sperber
, David Wolpe
, Nathan Lopes Cardozo
, Kerry Olitzky
, Shmuly Yanklowitz
, Aryeh Cohen
, Geoffrey Claussen
, Rami M. Shapiro
, David Rosen
, Raysh Weiss
, Elyse Goldstein
, Shefa Gold
, and Yonassan Gershom
Other rabbis who have promoted vegetarianism have included David Cohen
, Shlomo Goren
, Irving Greenberg
, Asa Keisar
, Jonathan Sacks
, She'ar Yashuv Cohen
, and Yitzhak HaLevi Herzog
. Other notable advocates of Jewish vegetarianism include Franz Kafka
, Roberta Kalechofsky
, Richard H. Schwartz
, Isaac Bashevis Singer
, Jonathan Safran Foer
, and Aaron S. Gross
Jewish vegetarians often cite Jewish principles regarding animal welfare
, environmental ethics
, moral character, and health
as reasons for adopting a vegetarian
Some Jews point to legal principles including Bal tashkhit
(the law which prohibits waste) and Tza'ar ba'alei hayyim
(the injunction not to cause ‘pain to living creatures’).
Many Jewish vegetarians are particularly concerned about cruel practices in factory farms
and high-speed, mechanized slaughterhouses
. Jonathan Safran Foer
has raised these concerns in the short documentary film If This Is Kosher...
, responding to what he considers abuses within the kosher meat industry.
Some Jewish vegetarians have pointed out that Adam and Eve were not allowed to eat meat. Genesis 1:29
states "And God said: Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree that has seed-yielding fruit—to you it shall be for food," indicating that God's original plan was for mankind to be vegan.
· According to some opinions, the whole world will again be vegetarian in the Messianic
era, and not eating meat brings the world closer to that ideal.
As the ideal images of the Torah are vegetarian, one may see the laws of kashrut
as actually designed to wean Jews away from meat eating and to move them toward the vegetarian ideal.