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Silas
The European New Right is nationalistic in the way that the Japanese are nationalistic.
Should the Muslim Turks be nationalistic, limit immigration into their country, embrace an Islamic culture and worldview? Or should they let in 2 million Christians and Jews into the country, provide them with generous welfare, let them build churches and temples in Istanbul, establish insular communities, etc.? Or are you going to say that is somehow different?
Most on the "right" are simply arguing for rational immigration policy, and it isn't really about Islam.
Muslims and "right-wing" Europeans are socially-conservative, religious, and family-oriented. A small minority of Muslims in the US and elsewhere have latched on to this idea that leftist groups, Jews, and others better represent them. So they end up forming alliances with groups that promote homosexuality, pederasty, promiscuity, 3rd-wave feminism, militant atheism, Zionism, drug abuse, degenerate Hollywood entertainment, widespread abortion, and other stuff. Is it worth selling your soul to these people so that your brother-in-law might have a better chance at getting a visa into the country?
If you are "anti-zionist" I don't understand why you are even bringing up the right. Let's get this straight each and every right-wing and far-right parties are Zionists. Sweden Democrats- Zionist, Geert Wilders - Zionist, Trump- Zionist, Milo Yiannopolus - Zionist, Danish People Party - Zionist, Le Pen - Zionist, Salvini - Zionist. I could honestly keep going.
I'm not going to bring up the popular support from Christians and Evangelical zombies.
The only European right-wing party that isn't openly zionist are Hungary's Victor Orban I think and that's it. Who the hell are you kidding?
On the other hand, it's usually leftists who are anti-Zionist.
Quote: "Muslims and "right-wing" Europeans are socially-conservative, religious, and family-oriented"
This shows more than anything you don't know the compass of European politics. The European far-right champions feminism, homosexuality, sexual openess as European culture and denounces Muslim communities for rejecting that and not assimilating.
You confuse evangelical politics with the Alt-right.
THE ALT-RIGHT are NOT RELIGIOUS. They are a race-based white identitarian movement.
The Ottomans already let in thousands of Polish refugees (at a time when they were enemies btw), Circassian refugees when 94% of them were wiped out by the Russians, thousands of jews fleeing from Spain, thousands of jews fleeing Austria, Poland, gypsy refugees, etc. Don't try to view pre-20th century muslims with European lenses, it won't work. Muslims have completely different perception of life than Europeans.