format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
Yes but there are plenty of rich people that didnt oppress and kill people to get their wealth, they helped improve peoples lives, invent products that are useful to humans for generations to come etc.
Yes, you are correct in the assertion there are plenty of righteous wealthy people, however, i was attempting to provide a definable contrast - since sacrifice of worldly comforts (sometimes life) for al aakhirah is often required of a believer - whereas Allah :swt: informs us that the rewards of the rejecters good deeds are usually granted in full here on earth - and nothing awaits them in the end but torment.
The word "dhanee" comes from "worldly" (dunya) and is often used to describe people who possess wealth - even though it can be argued that there are some muscular women
Hud 11:15
مَن كَانَ يُرِيدُ ٱلْحَيَوٰةَ ٱلدُّنْيَا وَزِينَتَهَا نُوَفِّ إِلَيْهِمْ أَعْمَٰلَهُمْ فِيهَا وَهُمْ فِيهَا لَا يُبْخَسُونَ
English - Yusuf Ali
Those who desire the life of the present and its glitter,- to them we shall pay (the price of) their deeds therein,- without diminution.
English - Sahih International
Whoever desires the life of this world and its adornments - We fully repay them for their deeds therein, and they therein will not be deprived.
Hud 11:16
أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ ٱلَّذِينَ لَيْسَ لَهُمْ فِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ إِلَّا ٱلنَّارُۖ وَحَبِطَ مَا صَنَعُوا۟ فِيهَا وَبَٰطِلٌ مَّا كَانُوا۟ يَعْمَلُونَ
English - Yusuf Ali
They are those for whom there is nothing in the Hereafter but the Fire: vain are the designs they frame therein, and of no effect and the deeds that they do!
English - Sahih International
Those are the ones for whom there is not in the Hereafter but the Fire. And lost is what they did therein, and worthless is what they used to do.
Az-Zukhruf 43:33
وَلَوْلَآ أَن يَكُونَ ٱلنَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً لَّجَعَلْنَا لِمَن يَكْفُرُ بِٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ لِبُيُوتِهِمْ سُقُفًا مِّن فِضَّةٍ وَمَعَارِجَ عَلَيْهَا يَظْهَرُونَ
English - Yusuf Ali
And were it not that (all) men might become of one (evil) way of life, We would provide, for everyone that blasphemes against (Allah) Most Gracious, silver roofs for their houses and (silver) stair-ways on which to go up,
English - Sahih International
And if it were not that the people would become one community [of disbelievers], We would have made for those who disbelieve in the Most Merciful - for their houses - ceilings and stairways of silver upon which to mount
Az-Zukhruf 43:34
وَلِبُيُوتِهِمْ أَبْوَٰبًا وَسُرُرًا عَلَيْهَا يَتَّكِـُٔونَ
English - Yusuf Ali
And (silver) doors to their houses, and thrones (of silver) on which they could recline,
English - Sahih International
And for their houses - doors and couches [of silver] upon which to recline
Az-Zukhruf 43:35
وَزُخْرُفًاۚ وَإِن كُلُّ ذَٰلِكَ لَمَّا مَتَٰعُ ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنْيَاۚ وَٱلْءَاخِرَةُ عِندَ رَبِّكَ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ
English - Yusuf Ali
And also adornments of gold. But all this were nothing but conveniences of the present life: The Hereafter, in the sight of thy Lord is for the Righteous.
English - Sahih International
And gold ornament. But all that is not but the enjoyment of worldly life. And the Hereafter with your Lord is for the righteous.
format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
Regarding the kingpin chilling on the beach with girls and drinks, you cant copy that in Jannah because your restricted to 1 wife and 2 Hoor-al-Ayn (unless your in the very few % that are shaheed then you get hooked up with 72, massive upgrade, but to even get a chance of getting that status you have to give up 100% of your dunya so most people cant/wont)
Raised couches, embroidered silk bathrobes, the hottest women, fruit punch, calling for what they want ... it's what most kids dealing drugs and hitting gold shops dream of unless they consider the bigger picture in the matrix.
The "72" in chapter 55 verse 72 is a verse number, not necessarily a reading of 72 wide eyed maidens (hoors).
Possibly a misreading and mixing up of the verse number as a part of the verse?
Ar-Rahman 55:72
حُورٌ مَّقْصُورَٰتٌ فِى ٱلْخِيَامِ
English - Yusuf Ali
Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;-
English - Sahih International
Fair ones reserved in pavilions -
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format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
Look trust me I have thought of all the variables, and in the end, i have answered my own question.
Step 1. Scrape a entry "pass" into Jannah on minimum points.
Possible, unless one falls short from whence they never expected - a weightier stock of good deeds are needed to tip the balance in favour, and Allah :swt: runs the accounting office.
Best to simply carry on doing good and avoiding evil as we live through it - though we will sometimes slip.
format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
Step 2. Wait until Judgement is over, until Allah (swt) anger has cooled down because Allah (swt)
will be angry with the creation like never before on Judgement Day.
Wait where? and fold your arms and whistle?
format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
Step 3. In Jannah quitely ask Allah for Earth Simulator.
Some like vehicles, i would probably ask for a track that allows high velocity in my current frame of mind - where you fly off the track but get saved as you hurtle towards something (like those falling dreams where you suddenly wake up). This world would probably feel like a short dream then though and those things might feel like juvenile aspirations.
format_quote Originally Posted by
ukakhi
btw, im not the only one who is weak in this regard... there was a Sahabi like me who wanted to do Agriculture in Jannah! :p:shade:
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 39 :: Hadith 538
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Once the Prophet was narrating (a story), while a bedouin was sitting with him. "One of the inhabitants of Paradise will ask Allah to allow him to cultivate the land. Allah will ask him, 'Are you not living in the pleasures you like?' He will say, 'Yes, but I like to cultivate the land.' " The Prophet added, "When the man (will be permitted he) will sow the seeds and the plants will grow up and get ripe, ready for reaping and so on till it will be as huge as mountains within a wink. Allah will then say to him, 'O son of Adam! Take here you are, gather (the yield); nothing satisfies you.' " On that, the bedouin said, "The man must be either from Quraish (i.e. an emigrant) or an Ansari, for they are farmers, whereas we are not farmers." The Prophet smiled (at this).
This is the only Hadith i found on the matter that gives me some reassurance.
1 thing i would add that the Sahabi (ra) didnt is i would slow down the process of growth...from the hadith it seems instantaneous or rapid growth.
Those are some amongst the endless pursuits that people who put their heads down and struggle receive as a reward - just as the student in his final year who soon has his own practice whilst the rude boys try to run from cops or avoid prison officers ... or clean the streets.
I pray that Allah :swt: gives and increases wisdom and scope of vision in our hearts and minds so that we can stay focused and on track to eternal happiness.