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Griffith
12-17-2019, 09:29 AM
Hello, I'm 21 year old and a born Muslim
I've created this account specifically to seek answers and advice, since I'm not really confident to go to the experts or maybe I'm too afraid because they'll probably label me as a disbeliever.
The problem is that I'm so depressed because of this continuous impiousness and shirk thoughts about Allah, this problem occurred ever since I started praying five times a day and I even made an oath that I will not leave prayer no matter how bad the situations are... I really can't describe in detail what's going on both inside my mind and my heart because it's so repulsive to even saying it both verbally or not...every time I seek refuge to Allah, it's just getting worse and even disturb my productivity...
it made me extremely depressed to the point that every time such thoughts occurred I had to spit (I don't exactly know why I do that)...To make matters worse the thoughts also happen when I'm doing my salah (prayer) and I make my dua towards Allah, the harder I try to forget it and seeking refuge the more the bad thoughts happen again... What happened to me? are there any other Muslims who also struggling with this problem?

I feel like I'm the worse person to ever been created by Allah, and it makes me feel like I'm already doomed

Please help me, what should I do?
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taha_
12-17-2019, 09:43 AM
Assalam o alaikum rahaumtullahi wa barakuthu brother..
Welcome to forum..

These are waswas. The remedy is to ignore them. Read more quran, do more dikhr, try remain in wudu state. Also recite surah e baqarah in your home.

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah has forgiven my followers the evil thoughts that occur to their minds, as long as such thoughts are not put into action or uttered."


Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 5269
In-book reference : Book 68, Hadith 19
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 63, Hadith 194
(deprecated numbering scheme)




jazakAllah khair
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Ahmed.
12-17-2019, 10:43 AM
:wa:

Shaytan messes with a person when they start worshipping, hence your waswas problem since you started to pray

Constant zikr is the cure, constant zikr and learn to IGNORE those thoughts and carry on with your life

Waswas ( no matter how bad it is) is like a barking dog, now say we are on our way for a meeting with the King and there is a dog barking at us in the streets, if we try and shut the dog up then we'll miss our meeting so we should ignore the dog and let it bark and continue on our way. Similarly, we ignore shaytan and continue in our meetings with Allah (five daily salah) and our journey to Jannah
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'aznil
12-17-2019, 11:17 AM
Read more القرآن. Pray more night prayers. Be closer to اَللّهُ
إن شاء الله
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Griffith
12-17-2019, 12:50 PM
Thank you for your answer.
The dog and a person analogy really helps I really appreciate it, however my main concern also is that how do we determine between our thoughts and shaytan whispers? can we agree on one point that sometimes prone to think negatively towards Allah (may Allah forgive us) in a more indirect or respectable manners (mine is far more worse than that as I already mentioned above).
And also I don't really know whether I *should* really ignore it, because I tried many times to ignore it it made me feel so mentally and spiritually uneasy, like "What I can't just ignore that! such despicable thing towards Allah can't be ignored right?!"
Moreover, the BAD NEWS is, obviously I do dhikir very often after I finish my prayer, and the evil thoughts still won't go away....

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Thank you for your answer.
The dog and a person analogy really helps I really appreciate it, however my main concern also is that how do we determine between our thoughts and shaytan whispers? can we agree on one point that sometimes prone to think negatively towards Allah (may Allah forgive us) in a more indirect or respectable manners (mine is far more worse than that as I already mentioned above).
And also I don't really know whether I *should* really ignore it, because I tried many times to ignore it it made me feel so mentally and spiritually uneasy, like "What I can't just ignore that! such despicable thing towards Allah can't be ignored right?!"
Moreover, the BAD NEWS is, obviously I do dhikir very often after I finish my prayer, and the evil thoughts still won't go away....
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Ahmed.
12-17-2019, 01:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Griffith
Thank you for your answer.
The dog and a person analogy really helps I really appreciate it, however my main concern also is that how do we determine between our thoughts and shaytan whispers? can we agree on one point that sometimes prone to think negatively towards Allah (may Allah forgive us) in a more indirect or respectable manners (mine is far more worse than that as I already mentioned above).
And also I don't really know whether I *should* really ignore it, because I tried many times to ignore it it made me feel so mentally and spiritually uneasy, like "What I can't just ignore that! such despicable thing towards Allah can't be ignored right?!"
Moreover, the BAD NEWS is, obviously I do dhikir very often after I finish my prayer, and the evil thoughts still won't go away....

- - - Updated - - -

Thank you for your answer.
The dog and a person analogy really helps I really appreciate it, however my main concern also is that how do we determine between our thoughts and shaytan whispers? can we agree on one point that sometimes prone to think negatively towards Allah (may Allah forgive us) in a more indirect or respectable manners (mine is far more worse than that as I already mentioned above).
And also I don't really know whether I *should* really ignore it, because I tried many times to ignore it it made me feel so mentally and spiritually uneasy, like "What I can't just ignore that! such despicable thing towards Allah can't be ignored right?!"
Moreover, the BAD NEWS is, obviously I do dhikir very often after I finish my prayer, and the evil thoughts still won't go away....
Any thoughts you are not deliberately thinking will be just the waswas and not your own thoughts. Sometimes extreme waswas can make us think bad deliberately too as we get so used to those horrible thoughts that we lose control somewhat of managing our deliberate thoughts too, but as long as we don't mean those thoughts then even the deliberate thoughts will be considered as a symptom of the waswas InshAllah

It's hard to ignore horrible evil thoughts, this is why the first method of cure I mentioned was constant zikr, that is constantly being engaged in praising/remembering Allah by saying zikr's such as SubhanAllah, Alhamdulillah, lailahailellah, Allahuakbar. It is said the mind cannot entertain 2 thoughts at same time so occupying the mind with constant zikr will keep waswas away

If wawas is very intense then some of it may still get through along with zikr but in time it should fade and dissappear

Always try to keep yourself busy too (other than necessary rest) as waswas invades an idle self more easily
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'Abdullah
12-17-2019, 03:25 PM
When do you have these negative thoughts? While praying only or through out the day?
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Griffith
12-17-2019, 10:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by HabibUrrehman
When do you have these negative thoughts? While praying only or through out the day?
At first time, it was during my relaxing time like me being completely idle and then it gotten worse.. it invades my mind during prayer time and now almost throughout the day....it doesnt appear constantly every minute but the evil thoughts will inevitably appear every day especially when I'm about to do my prayer
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Ahmed.
12-17-2019, 10:34 PM
Brother, see this thread too, it's good advice on there:

https://www.islamicboard.com/general...te#post3020130

I need desperate help
I know I have done a post like this before but it is extremely worse now I have been getting these shirk thoughts and now it is constant throughout my...
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Griffith
12-17-2019, 11:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed.
Brother, see this thread too, it's good advice on there:

https://www.islamicboard.com/general...te#post3020130

I need desperate help
I know I have done a post like this before but it is extremely worse now I have been getting these shirk thoughts and now it is constant throughout my...
I really can't thank you enough for your help and explanation above, it really alleviates my worries. I think I just decided to take this problem into a more positive approach. It makes me think that by going through this problem I can confirm the existence of the other side of our world (which is those of jin and shaytaan) although I already believe it (I used to read a lot of materialistic philosophical works, ngl). It strengthen my faith more that the more I'm suffering the more stronger my faith toward Allah and therefore I wouldn't have to worry more about me being categorized as a disbeliever or something......
again Thanks man, hadith alone is not enough to satisfy one's answer, it needs to be thoroughly explained...
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Ahmed.
12-18-2019, 02:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Griffith
I really can't thank you enough for your help and explanation above, it really alleviates my worries. I think I just decided to take this problem into a more positive approach. It makes me think that by going through this problem I can confirm the existence of the other side of our world (which is those of jin and shaytaan) although I already believe it (I used to read a lot of materialistic philosophical works, ngl). It strengthen my faith more that the more I'm suffering the more stronger my faith toward Allah and therefore I wouldn't have to worry more about me being categorized as a disbeliever or something......
again Thanks man, hadith alone is not enough to satisfy one's answer, it needs to be thoroughly explained...
You are welcome brother. May Allah always guide you and bless you and keep you firm in Islamic faith, aameen
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Abu-Abdullah
12-22-2019, 01:49 PM
https://seekersguidance.org/answers/...t-or-blessing/


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Dolly nimje
11-11-2020, 04:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Griffith
Hello, I'm 21 year old and a born Muslim
I've created this account specifically to seek answers and advice, since I'm not really confident to go to the experts or maybe I'm too afraid because they'll probably label me as a disbeliever.
The problem is that I'm so depressed because of this continuous impiousness and shirk thoughts about Allah, this problem occurred ever since I started praying five times a day and I even made an oath that I will not leave prayer no matter how bad the situations are... I really can't describe in detail what's going on both inside my mind and my heart because it's so repulsive to even saying it both verbally or not...every time I seek refuge to Allah, it's just getting worse and even disturb my productivity...
it made me extremely depressed to the point that every time such thoughts occurred I had to spit (I don't exactly know why I do that)...To make matters worse the thoughts also happen when I'm doing my salah (prayer) and I make my dua towards Allah, the harder I try to forget it and seeking refuge the more the bad thoughts happen again... What happened to me? are there any other Muslims who also struggling with this problem?

I feel like I'm the worse person to ever been created by Allah, and it makes me feel like I'm already doomed

Please help me, what should I do?
Assalamu alaikum brother! I'd like to know your condition because I'm suffering with the same and in my case, I feel like I'm doing shirk by trying to imagine Allah...it gets really worst at times and even takes me very long to make istighfar..I'd like to know is there any improvement in your condition?
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Khadija Ghafoor
06-07-2021, 07:05 PM
Assalamualaikum I am also suffering from the same problem and this is the second time this has happened to me I get so much bad shirk thoughts I don't know what to do about it it happened to me first in 2018 it was so bad and I kept crying for 8 months I called out to Allah countless times I was afraid that I was going to hell but after 8 months of suffering I was back to normal I went to makkah and madinah and it helped and like you I have also promised Allah that I will never leave my prayers I am praying since I was 12 years old and now I am 23 years old I used to love my prayers so much and I also loved Allah so much but when these shirk thoughts started I felt bad and I am thinking I am the worst person that Allah has ever created I don't know how will I face Allah on the judgement day everyone is telling me to ignore these thoughts I tried so much to ignore them but they just keep coming back I am tired and scared I want help please it is happening again it's been four months at first I couldn't even eat and sleep and couldn't even get up from my bed I was scared and kept calling out to Allah in sujood but now I can't even do that I feel hopeless prayers are getting hard for me what should I do now
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