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abdallah1
12-29-2019, 08:00 PM
China to rewrite Quran and Bible to fit ‘socialist values’

In recent months, the world has had its eyes fixated on China, anticipating its next moves. The torturous methods inflicted on its Uyghur Muslim minority have come to light, millions of whom are held in modern-day concentration camps.

Chinese authorities have constantly denied its “ethnic cleanse” of the Uyghur Muslims since 2017, despite its blatant attempts to create a communistic nation. Instead, they claim them to be “vocational training centres designed to combat Islamic extremism.”


Muslim sport stars such as Sonny Bill Williams and Hashim Amla have themselves taken to social media to speak out against China and stand with the Uyghur Muslims, urging Muslim leaders around the world to do the same.




South African Batsman, Hashim Amla, speaks out against the oppression of Uyghur Muslims, reminding us of the Hadith of the Prophet (sall Allāhu ʿalayhi wa sallam):⁣

“And fear the prayer of the oppressed, for between it and Allah, there is no barrier.”


Mesut Ozil’s infamous tweet hailed Uyghurs as “warriors who resist persecution”. He criticised China’s crackdown on the minority group as well as the silence of Muslims worldwide.


Since then, China has cancelled the broadcast of Arsenal’s match, removed his fan club from search engine, Baidu, and had him removed from video games, claiming he was misled by “fake news”.


These developments have finally allowed for China to take centre stage for its inhumane and abominable treatment to a minority community in its lands.
But now China have outdone themselves and said that all “classical religious books” will be “re-evaluated”. It intends to rewrite the Islamic and Christian Holy Books in order to prevent “extreme thoughts” and “heretical ideas” from eroding the country.


The instruction for the rewriting of the Quran and Bible was given at a meeting in November held by the Committee for Ethnic and Religious Affairs, which is responsible for all religious matters of the country, so that it may be fitting of the “era of President Xi Jinping,” who despite being President, is also general secretary of the Communist Party of China.

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https://www.islam21c.com/news-views/...ialist-values/
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Avis
12-29-2019, 10:00 PM
I hope they try, Allah said He will protect His Word and its high time one of these Evil Nations get a severe punishment.
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Eric H
12-30-2019, 07:44 PM
Greetings and peace be with you abdallah1;
The instruction for the rewriting of the Quran and Bible was given at a meeting in November held by the Committee for Ethnic and Religious Affairs.
China might be big and powerful; but they will fail if they try and rewrite the Quran and Bible. They will not be challenging Muslims and Christians; they will be challenging God.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,

Eric
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xboxisdead
12-31-2019, 03:58 AM
Allah will defeat them. They have this misconception that they can do anything and nothing will happen, because they do not believe in Allah. They cannot see Allah, they cannot physically hear Allah, they cannot touch Allah, Allah is not on the Earth, he is not physically standing on Earth where you can get weapons to shoot him or stab him, so the Chinese people who do not believe in him think they can do anything they want and Allah will not touch them or harm them. That is the very definition of disbelieve. The Chinese believe in incarnation, or believe some science fiction ideology of the afterlife, some even believe they will come back as a spirit to guide the warriors and give them some magical powers, etc. Some even believe in female Goddesses and worship her, the list goes on. Allah knows what is in their heart and he will only misguide the wicket, the evil, the defective human being who can never be guided and those are the people whom hellfire is their abode. Even then, when hellfire is shown to them in day of judgement they will wickedly point fingers at Allah and blame him for their demise, they are evil, wicket till the very end. When they are thrown in hellfire they will then confess of their crimes and admit their wicket ways only then it will not save them from the pits of hellfire.
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Logikon
01-04-2020, 12:20 AM
Well Al-Queda and Islamic State both use paragraphs of the Koran to justify their violent acts. Changing those paragraphs would stop the violent acts.
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CuriousonTruth
01-04-2020, 06:07 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Logikon
Well Al-Queda and Islamic State both use paragraphs of the Koran to justify their violent acts. Changing those paragraphs would stop the violent acts.
Well the Europeans moving from Bible to Secularism hasn't stopped them from being vile, racist, genocidal maniacs. So I wouldn't bet on any change.
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xboxisdead
01-04-2020, 06:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Logikon
Well Al-Queda and Islamic State both use paragraphs of the Koran to justify their violent acts. Changing those paragraphs would stop the violent acts.
This statement is full of false, wrong and illogical ...I couldn't even start with it. You are implying with your own hand that MAN knows better than his creator? That MAN are more merciful than HIS CREATOR? THAT MAN have right to correct his creator? That man have right to even have the inner audacity to disbelieve in his creator BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FULFILL his whims and desires?

If Allah (the creator) orders his creation (us human being) to fight, you know what I will do (I don't know about you...seeing you will sit on the couch and eat chips) I will get sword and shield even if my arm and my strength is that of a 10 year old child and I have a stomach and weak and can easily be defeated (but if I am chosen to fight) I will go out there and fight. I will fight happily with a smile on my face for Allah's pleasure alone. Not with the attention to die martyr. Not with the attention to attain paradise, not with the attention to attain fame or power, but with attention for his pleasure alone and because I am doing it because I love him. To you...in your eyes...that is considered barbaric, considered violence act, considered murder, considered toxic masculinity...the naming convention that non-Muslim throw in to avoid battles baffle me.

But you know what I look at you or people who think like that? A coward. A person who loves this world. A disbeliever who do not want to die because he knows if he dies his time of punishment starts the second his soul leaves his body. He will leave this world and it's blessings to something worse now. Something that no police, government, human being, mother or father can save him now. He is going to be alone with his deeds to be judged and the last thing he wants is to be alone with his deeds because he have nothing to offer. Those are the people who are going to say things like "Changing those paragraph would sop the violence acts."
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xboxisdead
01-04-2020, 06:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth
Well the Europeans moving from Bible to Secularism hasn't stopped them from being vile, racist, genocidal maniacs. So I wouldn't bet on any change.
Not only it didn't change it it made it worse. In Islam there are zero tolerance for racism, genocide, etc. But also Islam doesn't say show them the back of your head and let them smack you on the back of your head and take it...get screwed and just watch and smile either. If they are going to use violence to fight you...fight back UNTIL THEY STOP...if they stop YOU STOP. If they persist you persist. This is the "violence" act that it AH OK to do. Of course, Islam does not promote you going with your shield and sword and killing innocent lives (even if they are not Muslims) NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! It however says, if they are going to come to your homes, your place of worship, your daily lives and attack your innocent men, women and children...YES....GET YOUR GUN, YOUR AMMUNITION AND FIGHT BACK...VIOLENCE AT THAT POINT is the only way....BUT YOU DO IT UNTIL THEY STOP and retreat which at that point YOU STOP. In Islam when you use violence do not hurt the trees or animals....



THEY...THE SECULARISM AND NON-MUSLIM they throw bomb that wipe half the forest with it's animals to kill INNOCENT children. Come out you secularist, Christians and non-Muslims alike.....and come back to Islam...so that you may save your skin and become civilized. I am sorry, but America and non-Muslim countries are far from being civilized. Something as simple as using the toilet have shown that Muslims are more civilized than non-Muslims. I come from Hajj where each toilet have a bucket of water to clean your private parts and there are doors sealed so no one can see each other and you have to sit down to urinate...too when I landed at the airport of so called first world country like Canada and a guy moves in front of me before I can use the toilet...stands up...like an animal..on the toilet...without closing the door..like some wild beast...does his due...and gets out of the washroom.....without cleaning his private part...his underwear my be stained by his urine...and leaves without even WASHING HIS HAND. Yeah.....yeah.....something as basic as that they are like wild animals.
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CuriousonTruth
01-05-2020, 05:54 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Not only it didn't change it it made it worse. In Islam there are zero tolerance for racism, genocide, etc. But also Islam doesn't say show them the back of your head and let them smack you on the back of your head and take it...get screwed and just watch and smile either. If they are going to use violence to fight you...fight back UNTIL THEY STOP...if they stop YOU STOP. If they persist you persist. This is the "violence" act that it AH OK to do. Of course, Islam does not promote you going with your shield and sword and killing innocent lives (even if they are not Muslims) NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! It however says, if they are going to come to your homes, your place of worship, your daily lives and attack your innocent men, women and children...YES....GET YOUR GUN, YOUR AMMUNITION AND FIGHT BACK...VIOLENCE AT THAT POINT is the only way....BUT YOU DO IT UNTIL THEY STOP and retreat which at that point YOU STOP. In Islam when you use violence do not hurt the trees or animals....

THEY...THE SECULARISM AND NON-MUSLIM they throw bomb that wipe half the forest with it's animals to kill INNOCENT children. Come out you secularist, Christians and non-Muslims alike.....and come back to Islam...so that you may save your skin and become civilized. I am sorry, but America and non-Muslim countries are far from being civilized. Something as simple as using the toilet have shown that Muslims are more civilized than non-Muslims. I come from Hajj where each toilet have a bucket of water to clean your private parts and there are doors sealed so no one can see each other and you have to sit down to urinate...too when I landed at the airport of so called first world country like Canada and a guy moves in front of me before I can use the toilet...stands up...like an animal..on the toilet...without closing the door..like some wild beast...does his due...and gets out of the washroom.....without cleaning his private part...his underwear my be stained by his urine...and leaves without even WASHING HIS HAND. Yeah.....yeah.....something as basic as that they are like wild animals.
Lol no European is going to "come to Islam". This is why I dislike the precedent the Dawah people have set. It gives the ignorant a perception that Europeans are some sort of nuanced, people who supposedly respect other people, cultures. But in reality the converts are usually fringes of Western society and they are like 0.001%. The majority of Europeans are racist, vile and genocidal and wants to kill anyone who disagree with their secular humanism narrative.
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Ümit
01-05-2020, 11:46 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Logikon
Well Al-Queda and Islamic State both use paragraphs of the Koran to justify their violent acts. Changing those paragraphs would stop the violent acts.
no it wouldn't. no matter how you change the text...there will always be groups of people that misinterpret the text and will be in conflict with other groups which always will result in war.
al qeaida and islamic state just terrible misinterpreted those paragraphs.
no that is not true. the text is clear...the message of those paragraphs are also clear...al qeaida and islamic state just deliberately misinterpreted it wrong in such a way that would fit their agenda.
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CuriousonTruth
01-05-2020, 05:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit
no it wouldn't. no matter how you change the text...there will always be groups of people that misinterpret the text and will be in conflict with other groups which always will result in war.
al qeaida and islamic state just terrible misinterpreted those paragraphs.
no that is not true. the text is clear...the message of those paragraphs are also clear...al qeaida and islamic state just deliberately misinterpreted it wrong in such a way that would fit their agenda.
I will not comment on ISIS and Al-Qaeda, as they are Salafists and I'm not.

But clearly there is enough verses to prove that war for just cause is backed by the Quran, one doesn't need to be a Salafist to find that. We need to stop being ashamed and apologize for these. For example, if there was a powerful Muslim political bloc with equal military technology as the West, it would be mandatory for the Muslim coalition to declare war on the West/Europe, without a doubt.

Also, if the Uighurs weren't following Islam or Quran, they would be Turanists anyway, who are a sort of extreme Turkic nationalists who would call the name of Oghuz Khan, Atilla, Tomyris instead of Islamic slogans. The underlying scenario in East Turkestan is "Oppressed vs Oppressor", not "Muslim vs Kaafir".
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keiv
01-05-2020, 08:03 PM
Assuming they try to, rewriting the Quran will not stop the Chinese government from oppressing it's people. This isn't about changing the Quran, it's about eliminating Islam.
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Nitro Zeus
01-06-2020, 09:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by abdallah1
China to rewrite Quran and Bible to fit ‘socialist values’

In recent months, the world has had its eyes fixated on China, anticipating its next moves. The torturous methods inflicted on its Uyghur Muslim minority have come to light, millions of whom are held in modern-day concentration camps.

Chinese authorities have constantly denied its “ethnic cleanse” of the Uyghur Muslims since 2017, despite its blatant attempts to create a communistic nation. Instead, they claim them to be “vocational training centres designed to combat Islamic extremism.”


Muslim sport stars such as Sonny Bill Williams and Hashim Amla have themselves taken to social media to speak out against China and stand with the Uyghur Muslims, urging Muslim leaders around the world to do the same.




South African Batsman, Hashim Amla, speaks out against the oppression of Uyghur Muslims, reminding us of the Hadith of the Prophet (sall Allāhu ʿalayhi wa sallam):⁣

“And fear the prayer of the oppressed, for between it and Allah, there is no barrier.”


Mesut Ozil’s infamous tweet hailed Uyghurs as “warriors who resist persecution”. He criticised China’s crackdown on the minority group as well as the silence of Muslims worldwide.


Since then, China has cancelled the broadcast of Arsenal’s match, removed his fan club from search engine, Baidu, and had him removed from video games, claiming he was misled by “fake news”.


These developments have finally allowed for China to take centre stage for its inhumane and abominable treatment to a minority community in its lands.
But now China have outdone themselves and said that all “classical religious books” will be “re-evaluated”. It intends to rewrite the Islamic and Christian Holy Books in order to prevent “extreme thoughts” and “heretical ideas” from eroding the country.


The instruction for the rewriting of the Quran and Bible was given at a meeting in November held by the Committee for Ethnic and Religious Affairs, which is responsible for all religious matters of the country, so that it may be fitting of the “era of President Xi Jinping,” who despite being President, is also general secretary of the Communist Party of China.

Article can be read at

https://www.islam21c.com/news-views/...ialist-values/
That's so freakin' funny and ridiculous task of theirs. These crazy people think they can do whatever they want to. Well, they are wrong in first place because each time Quran is dead and Islam is eliminated, then Quran will be revived continually and none can truly vanquish Islam because it is not man made religion. And Islam will continue to be revived until the day Allah will lift Quran and then there will be no more Muslims and there will be only non Muslims on Earth.

So, I really doubt that they would succeed in doing this.
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