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saad056
02-17-2020, 04:34 AM
Assalam-o-Alaikum Brothers/Sisters. I'm a researcher on Islam and comparative religion (although I'm a Muslim). The aim of my research is to find the scientific/numeric and archaeological consistencies amongst these religions. However, I'm a convinced believer of Islam and the concept of Tauhid makes logical sense to me. In terms of knowing the eternal truth it is essential for a book to have no contradictions, errors and omissions, the Quran lives up to the mark of being a miraculously perfect book, Alhumdullilah. However, recently i came across the story of Moses in Surah Taha (Chapter 20), where Pharoah challenges Moses to a duel with magicians. After the duel, the magicians start to believe in Allah. However, they make the following comment interpreted in the following verses from which i have question:

(20:73) We believe in our Lord that He may forgive us our sins and also forgive us the practice of magic to which you had compelled us. Allah is the Best and He alone will abide."

My question with the above verse is that how was the practice of magic a sin in those days when it had become so common? Who revealed to these magicians that sorcery is a sin, as far as my knowledge is concerned Moses never delivered them the message which states that practicing magic is a sin before the duel.
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MazharShafiq
02-17-2020, 11:25 AM
Islam’s position on sorcery for both the one who practices magic and the one who believes in sorcery can be summed up in just one sentence. Sorcery is absolutely forbidden. However, let us try to discover why Islam forbids it. Remembering that Islam is a way of life, not just a set of beliefs that people may or may not practice, we find that sorcery is forbidden because of the damage it can do to individuals, families and the community.

Since the dawn of time, human beings have been fascinated by sorcery in all its forms. They have been mystified and awe inspired and often times unaware of the dangers inherent in sorcery. Sorcery is known in Arabic as sihr and it is one of the tricks that Satan uses to lead humankind astray. It is for this reason Islam warns against magic. God warns against it in the Quran.

“And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves, if they but knew.” (Quran 2:102)

Sorcery is performed with the aid of the Jinn[1], whose help is attained when the sorcerer or sorceress does acts of disbelief and worships the Jinn and Satan. Thus they take the Jinn and Satan as lords besides God. Once the Jinn are pleased with the sorcerer or sorceress, they will do what they ask them. Renowned Islamic scholar of the 20th century Sheikh Ibn Baz, may God have mercy on him, said, “Sihr (sorcery) is a word referring to something hidden. It is real and there are kinds of witchcraft that may affect people psychologically and physically, so that they become sick and die, or husbands and wives are separated. It is a devilish action, most of which is only achieved by means of associating others with God and drawing close to the minions of Satan”.

Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, counseled his followers to avoid the seven destructive sins. “Making anyone or anything a partner with God; practicing sorcery; killing a living being without justification whose life has been declared sacred by Allah; practicing usury; misappropriating the property of an orphan; running away in a battle; and slandering chaste, innocent, believing women.”[2]

During the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad one of the most popular forms of sorcery was to tie knots in a rope and then recite incantations over knots, thus bewitching or harming another person. This is mentioned in the second to last chapter of the Quran where we are encouraged to seek refuge from this evil. “And from the evil of those who practise witchcraft when they blow on knots.” (Quran 113:4)

This form of sorcery was done to Prophet Muhammad but God did not allow it to cause him any harm. An evil man cast a spell on Prophet Muhammad using a hair that was caught in a comb along with a few fibers of a date palm. After the spell was cast the Prophet began to imagine that he had sexual relations with one of his wives when he had in fact not done so; The affect of the spell was limited and it did not in any way interfere with his responsibility of conveying the Divine Message. His beloved wife Aisha narrates that, “One day he (Prophet Muhammad) made supplication to God and then he said, “Do you know that God has shown me where my cure is? Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet. One of them said to the other, ‘What is ailing the man?’ He said: ‘He has been bewitched.’ He said, “who has bewitched him?’ He said: ‘Labeed ibn al-A’sam.’ He said, ‘With what?’ He said, ‘With a comb, a hair that was caught onto it, and the fiber of a male date palm. He said, ‘Where is it?’ He said, ‘In the well of Dharwaan.’” He went to the well, came back and said, “Its date palms are like the heads of devils.” I said: “Did you take it out?” He said: “No. God has healed me, and I feared that that might bring evil upon the people.” Then the well was filled in. [3] Prophet Muhammad again warns his followers about the dangers of magic (sorcery or witchcraft) when he states that, "Whoever ties a knot and then says incantations over it has committed sorcery and whoever commits sorcery has associated partners with God and whoever relies on something (other than God) will be turned over to it." [4
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saad056
02-18-2020, 06:08 AM
Thank you so much for such a useful and brief post brother. However, that wasn't my question, my question specifically relates to the era of Musa (PBUH). When was magic banned then?
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MazharShafiq
02-18-2020, 09:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by saad056
Thank you so much for such a useful and brief post brother. However, that wasn't my question, my question specifically relates to the era of Musa (PBUH). When was magic banned then?
When the magicians found out that Mosa (pbuh) was on the right path and Mosa was showing that was not magic, but rather a miracle from Allah, they had asked Allah to forgive them. They wanted to confront the miracle with their magic.
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MazharShafiq
02-18-2020, 09:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by saad056
Thank you so much for such a useful and brief post brother. However, that wasn't my question, my question specifically relates to the era of Musa (PBUH). When was magic banned then?
When the magicians found out that Moses was on the right path and what Moses was showing was not magic, but rather a miracle from Allah, they had asked Allah to confront them. They wanted to confront the miracle with their magic.
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Ümit
02-18-2020, 11:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by saad056
Thank you so much for such a useful and brief post brother. However, that wasn't my question, my question specifically relates to the era of Musa (PBUH). When was magic banned then?
you have to read the story of Harut and Marut and of course Sulaiman as's story...then it will become clear to you that sorcery was already evil at the very start of it...that it was spread around humans through devils...that it involves trickery, illusion and deception...and therefore it wad always haram to perform.
Sulaiman as already forbade to use sorcery...so way before Musa as.
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MazharShafiq
02-18-2020, 01:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit
you have to read the story of Harut and Marut and of course Sulaiman as's story...then it will become clear to you that sorcery was already evil at the very start of it...that it was spread around humans through devils...that it involves trickery, illusion and deception...and therefore it wad always haram to perform.
Sulaiman as already forbade to use sorcery...so way before Musa as.
yes it is authentic .
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saad056
02-18-2020, 10:32 PM
Sulaiman (AS) came way after Musa(AS). Please use some common sense
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Ümit
02-18-2020, 11:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by saad056
Sulaiman (AS) came way after Musa(AS). Please use some common sense
It seems that you are right. I am sorry.
I was using common sense...just made a mistake. thanks for correcting me.
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Ümit
02-19-2020, 08:41 PM
update:
According to some revelations, Harut and Marut came to Earth at the time of Idris as. So way before Musa as. the rest of my post still stands. Sorcery was evil since the very start of it...and everybody knew that.
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