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You don't know that, and even if were to happen, so what? How far are you willing to give up your religion just so some righty will like you? lol
90% of the ones on reddit perhaps, but not in the rest of the world. And there are people leaving Islam even in muslim majority countries. There are even those who marry nonMuslims, yes coming from Muslim majority countries. So these issues are not western issues, they are global issues. My experiences are not anecdotal. You probably have never lived outside of your home country. I try to refrain from generalizing groups of people, but the reality is that there are good and bad muslims everywhere regardless where they were born or where they've lived. Is there an excuse for those living in Muslim countries? Allah knows. But the mentality that "muslims should stay in their place, not request adhan to please the white man" is exactly the mentality that keeps Muslims weak. When you respect yourself, you gain the respect of others.
Dude you're the ones living there, you have to abide by the constitution, government, and western culture. Let's say my country becomes Islamic Republic, do you think we will tolerate Hindus ringing their temple bells, or Christians putting their sermons on loud speakers? Never. Infact we will use it as political points to call for further discrimination against non-muslims and post all over social media "Hindus taking over" just like Far-right does in your country.
Again muslims living in the West know what it's all about and what they signed upto.
In many European countries, swimming lessons in less than modest swimsuits are mandatory. There's peer pressure to attend Prom parties, being "virgin" is embarrasment, infact "virgins" are taunted. Government run schools emphasize on disproving religious texts that oppose Evolution.
"And there are people leaving Islam even in muslim majority countries."
Yeah and? They are liberals and gays, obviously Islam isn't for them. They have unstable lives and usually don't actively pro-create, ending their line of blood. And all ex-muslims in a yea, are replaced in a month because muslims have high birth rate, especially conservatives.
"There are even those who marry nonMuslims"
I live in one of the most liberal, secular muslim country. Never seen it happen. There's a sub-conscious firewall. I can attest this myself, I've always had repulsion against Hindu girls although some were good looking, if you ask anyone except the ultra-liberals (who have no Islam left), even they will say, "Hindus? Eh no thanks".
"good and bad muslims everywhere"
Sure there's something called averages.