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wayfarer91
07-22-2020, 06:28 AM
CAn Satan use humans to incite or induce waswasas in other people? Like use a human being to say such and such thing to another person who is already going through a tough time?
If we were to use an example then,
can satan use a 3rd person to instigate fight among two people ?
Or tell an abusive father through a 3rd person that he is right to beat his kids and wife?
or use a person to tell a person that the dua they are making would be of no use because it isn't humanly possible?
or make a person tell a suffering person that things would get better, but by that time it would be to late so no need to ask Allah for it?
or after giving an exam tell the person u know better what you have written even God can't change that?
When a person is saying above mentioned things to another person? would we call it waswas, or just logical explanation?
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Ümit
07-22-2020, 08:16 AM
Of course he can...in fact...he does this all the time.
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wayfarer91
07-22-2020, 08:35 AM
even if the person gives logical explanation.
like for the abusive father, he says that the person is metnally not right.
and for the dua he says that things can't change for so and so reason?
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Ümit
07-22-2020, 08:46 AM
yes.. having a logical explanation does not automatically mean doing the right thing.

shaytaan can use a third person to carry out his waswasa to someone...and of course he will try to make it logical to make it easy for someone to accept the waswasa easily.

one should be aware of that.
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'Abdullah
07-22-2020, 02:57 PM
Allah says in the Quran
114:5
ٱلَّذِى يُوَسْوِسُ فِى صُدُورِ ٱلنَّاسِ

Who whispers in the breasts of mankind,

114:6
مِنَ ٱلْجِنَّةِ وَٱلنَّاسِ

Of jinns and men."

In Surah Ana'm, Allah Subhanahu Wa Taa'la says:
6:112
وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِىٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَٰطِينَ ٱلْإِنسِ وَٱلْجِنِّ يُوحِى بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ ٱلْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا وَلَوْ شَآءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ


And so We have appointed for every Prophet enemies - Shayatin (devils) among mankind and jinns, inspiring one another with adorned speech as a delusion (or by way of deception). If your Lord had so willed, they would not have done it, so leave them alone with their fabrications.

From above verses, we come to know that devils are from jinns as well as from human race.
It was narrated that Abu Dharr said:
"I entered the Masjid and the Messenger of Allah [Peace be upon him] was there, so I came and sat before him and he said: 'O Abu Dharr, seek refuge with Allah from the evils of the devils among the Jinn and mankind.' I said: 'Are there devils among mankind?' He said: 'Yes.'"

أَخْبَرَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ عَوْنٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ أَبِي عُمَرَ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ بْنِ خَشْخَاشٍ، عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍّ، قَالَ دَخَلْتُ الْمَسْجِدَ وَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فِيهِ فَجِئْتُ فَجَلَسْتُ إِلَيْهِ فَقَالَ ‏"‏ يَا أَبَا ذَرٍّ تَعَوَّذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنْ شَرِّ شَيَاطِينِ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنْسِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قُلْتُ أَوَلِلإِنْسِ شَيَاطِينُ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Reference: Sunan an-Nasa'i 5507
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 0
English translation: Vol. 6, Book 50, Hadith 5509
https://sunnah.com/urn/1154920

Same hadith is also reported by Imam Ahmad and Abu Hatim.
And Allah knows the best!
May Allah make things easy for us and save us from the whispers of devils among the Jinn & mankind. Ameen!
Ma'aSalaam
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