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William Wallace
08-23-2020, 04:06 PM
What do folks think of BLM?
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Islami.Mu'mina
08-23-2020, 04:41 PM
Tbh I don't mind it if people are peacefully protesting, freedom of speech. Just like the all lives matter, black lives matter too. Tbh though I dont support what has happened this year with the protests. All the looting and raging was ridiculous. 2020 is kind of crazy with the news publicizing so many random events going on this year
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William Wallace
08-23-2020, 06:31 PM
I agree with that brother.

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format_quote Originally Posted by William Wallace
I agree with that brother.
Sry should say sister
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'Abdullah
08-23-2020, 08:25 PM
Islam generally does not allow protests and demonstrations because it only result in chaos in the society. Unfortunately many Muslims get involved in the so-called protests arranged by liberals and socialists who only want to use us for their evil agenda. Anyways below is one video illustrating what I have stated above in brief:
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M.I.A.
08-24-2020, 02:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by William Wallace
What do folks think of BLM?
It's another case of the truth being subjective..

Most races are racist..

Most races have specific issues that are more important to them than other ethnicities.

And they become more valid or less valid depending on the people they associate with.

And most races do not actually think of what is implied by what they say.. Who's mind actually works that fast?

To measure the words that come out of there mouths?

And why should they?

The absolute truth is that "life" affects us all, its a waking dream..

You have to try your best to not let it turn into a nightmare..

Or turn you into a nightmare.

All the while trying to work towards the things you want to achieve.

..And that's the joke really, it's very hard to find peace in such a competitive world.

Some people would have you live in their successes all the while trying to increase them.

And some people would want to live in your failures, all the while trying to maintain them.

It's what I see to be the case although you can't think twice and act once because nobody is that fast.

So...

What moves us?

Ya'seen.



The world wants gangster rappers..

Although most people would settle for less gun violence.

....I dunno, who the hell isn't a stereotype?

I'm not an advocate of keeping silent, I just have no control of what comes out sometimes.. So Iv gotton use to not talking.

I'm OK with being warned, as things stand.

But yeah, the conversation and tone will change with time inshallah.

Just keep your mind from twisting until then.


...I would say that all lives matter but it doesn't mean what I thought it meant.

So less posting from me I suppose.
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William Wallace
08-24-2020, 07:22 PM
Thank you for the contributions folks

In my opinion Black Lives Matter as an organization is in the wrong. This is because in a proper society based on the equality, society based on proper Christian and Islamic values equality must be a part of the society. So all lives matter. And I question the finances of Black Lives Matter because there are still so many poor Black people across the United States that need help...why isn’t blm Helping these people?

The United States is overwhelmingly Christian and it is at the epicenter of these protests and riots. But the vast majority of Americans are not taking part of the protest. It could be foreign agents with intolerant views, people who are dishonest who want to tear apart civilized society such as what we have in America. There’s no doubt that some of the protesters are foreign agents who will in the end fail in their goal to tear apart civilized society. So many American Muslims and Christians are friends with each other, they are part of the same families and we will not be broken by foreign agents and rioters

Also to think that there should be protests in America is wrong considering the injustices that go on all around the world.

There is a reason why masses of immigrants around the world choose America as their number one destinations. They want to come to America for a better life... so the protesters and rioters in a sense are selfish.... They already get to live in a free country while millions of other people dream of flocking to a country such as America for a better life, a life that is based on freedom and equality. Studies have shown that United States is the number one destination for immigrants and refugees worldwide. So systemic racism is not an issue in America as Black Lives Matter wrongly suggests.
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William Wallace
08-24-2020, 07:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah
Islam generally does not allow protests and demonstrations because it only result in chaos in the society. Unfortunately many Muslims get involved in the so-called protests arranged by liberals and socialists who only want to use us for their evil agenda. Anyways below is one video illustrating what I have stated above in brief:
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'Abdullah
08-25-2020, 04:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by William Wallace
Thank you for the contributions folks

In my opinion Black Lives Matter as an organization is in the wrong. This is because in a proper society based on the equality, society based on proper Christian and Islamic values equality must be a part of the society. So all lives matter. And I question the finances of Black Lives Matter because there are still so many poor Black people across the United States that need help...why isn’t blm Helping these people?

The United States is overwhelmingly Christian and it is at the epicenter of these protests and riots. But the vast majority of Americans are not taking part of the protest. It could be foreign agents with intolerant views, people who are dishonest who want to tear apart civilized society such as what we have in America. There’s no doubt that some of the protesters are foreign agents who will in the end fail in their goal to tear apart civilized society. So many American Muslims and Christians are friends with each other, they are part of the same families and we will not be broken by foreign agents and rioters

Also to think that there should be protests in America is wrong considering the injustices that go on all around the world.

There is a reason why masses of immigrants around the world choose America as their number one destinations. They want to come to America for a better life... so the protesters and rioters in a sense are selfish.... They already get to live in a free country while millions of other people dream of flocking to a country such as America for a better life, a life that is based on freedom and equality. Studies have shown that United States is the number one destination for immigrants and refugees worldwide. So systemic racism is not an issue in America as Black Lives Matter wrongly suggests.
US history of almost 400 years is full of oppression and racism against black people. Police brutality against black people is also a fact and no one is to blame for this but USA laws & constitution which treats rich differently than poor; black people differently than white people, a Muslim differently than a Christian or follower of any other faith.
US may be Christian majority on paper but in reality God and religion has no place in lives of many Americans. Divine law has been pushed to a corner and man made law has taken over which allows all types of evil ( homosexuality, legalization of drugs, prostitution, gambling, pornography etc.). No one is conspiring against USA, USA is only going to face what previous great nations have faced when they disobeyed Allah. It is only a matter of time, US will no longer be a super power and we can already see that coming in the form of increase in number of fires, earth quakes and hurricanes hitting USA in last few years.
Allah says in the Quran:

Did We not destroy the former peoples?
Then We will follow them with the later ones.
Thus do We deal with the criminals (the polytheists, the disbelievers, the sinners and the criminals) [Quran 77: 16-18]
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xboxisdead
08-25-2020, 06:21 PM
The black life matter is false. It is not at all about the lives of black people at all and their well being. It is a cult like many of these organizations are cult and black live matter is actually run by majority white people and in additional to that it's true agenda is promote breaking of family and promoting evilness and homosexuality. Like many of these agendas they scream and shout and have well prepared background music and narrative that convince the majority of the people that they are good organization intended to protect the message they are preaching but actually is a corrupted organization with a much hidden agenda. Not man-made organization will work. You want live matter, protection of human rights, family and society ....the only way to do it is Islam. Qura'an and the way of the prophet (authentic ahadeeth) sunnah. THIS...IS WHAT YOU should be protecting. Through Islam there is no sexism, racism, or anything with ism at the end. In fact we can go as far as say to respect your children ....no agism even. Meaning if a child (young youth) of age ten years have wisdom and knowledge that an adult of age 40, even as far as the parent itself then that adult should listen to that child and learn from him and not look down at him or belittle him because of his age and show arrogance because of your age. We can go as far as say that if a young youth is first to be on the front line in the mosque for prayer it is not RIGHT for any shiekh or adult to tell that young youth to go back....that is oppression..he sat there first it is his right and no bullies are allowed in Islam, just because he is weaker than you and younger than you that you go ahead and take him away from his seat and you take his seat? Nope. Not even that allowed. I will not even ask the question, we all know not one organization or special interest group can give just and right to human being better than Islam!!

So no. No black live matter for me! No feminism for me. No ...no..no..no man-mad special interest group. I am not interested. If it is not Islam...I am not interested.
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William Wallace
08-26-2020, 05:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abdullah
US history of almost 400 years is full of oppression and racism against black people. Police brutality against black people is also a fact and no one is to blame for this but USA laws & constitution which treats rich differently than poor; black people differently than white people, a Muslim differently than a Christian or follower of any other faith.
US may be Christian majority on paper but in reality God and religion has no place in lives of many Americans. Divine law has been pushed to a corner and man made law has taken over which allows all types of evil ( homosexuality, legalization of drugs, prostitution, gambling, pornography etc.). No one is conspiring against USA, USA is only going to face what previous great nations have faced when they disobeyed Allah. It is only a matter of time, US will no longer be a super power and we can already see that coming in the form of increase in number of fires, earth quakes and hurricanes hitting USA in last few years.
Allah says in the Quran:
Hello brother

in Islam Muhammad trusted Christian Ethiopia with saving Muslim refugees that were fleeing Arab pagans, this is known as the migration to Abyssinia.


America is not Christian on paper...it is not theocratic but the countries population is overwhelmingly Christian. God is a huge part of America because for example in our currency it says in God we trust.

Christianity is not the problem. But we appear to both agree on that

The historian Henry Louis Gates jr who is also African-American reports that Africans, Europeans and Arabs all took apart in the slave trade in the post Middle Ages era. Slavery used to be a worldwide issue but is now pretty much a non-issue in the modern times with a few exceptions.

So look at where we are now today. We can compare America to other countries of the world and it is undeniable that America is one of if not the most free country of the world. This could be proven by the following link. The following link shows the rise of interracial marriage in America

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...iage-in-the-us

There is also a huge rate of interfaith marriage in America which by the way Christianity and Islam approve of interfaith marriage. Compare this to countries with unequal laws such as Saudi Arabia and Israel which outlaw interfaith marriage. And in Pakistan and India there’s issues when people want to marry someone of a different racial background that doesn’t happen in America though.

And interfaith marriage is not allowed in any country in the Middle East or Africa except for South Africa and Turkey.

As for law Enforcement and so-called racism. It’s no longer an issue in America. Again compared to other countries of the world such as South American countries and African countries were bribery among policeman is a huge issue... For example Egyptian‘s themselves have told me about how Egyptian police will in large part force people to bribe them..... Bribery and racism among American policeman it’s just about unheard of.

We can note practically all of the protests in America have been centered around cases were policeman were actually doing their job. For example George Floyd was high on meth, he also had the coronavirus and died from heart failure not from strangulation... George Floyd also once held a pistol to a pregnant lady‘s stomach. By the way I think George Floyd’s death was unfortunate but the media is totally miss reported the circumstances surrounding his death and that is not right. The prosecutor in that case initially said that the four policeman could be exonerated but the mob and looters surely including foreign agents burned down a police building in Minnesota and got their way.

I would agree that some of the media in America lie about our police forces and create division. And I agree with the other Muslims in this thread that it is completely wrong for folks to take to the streets and riot and loot.

Most important what has Black Lives Matter done for poor Black people? Because I see it every day the struggle that beautiful and hard-working black Christians and Muslims face living in neighborhoods with dilapidated houses, holes in the streets. What about the millions of dollars Black Lives Matter has been given from American companies and billionaires ....where has all that money gone?


And when it comes to hurricanes and floods it has been countries such as Puerto Rico and Haiti That have suffered the most by far and wide.....This is surely the work of the devil not of God. We must pray for our brothers and sisters across the world who live in poverty, live in unjust countries or live in areas where climate can poorly affect them


Finally according to the FBI itself.... Far more white people are arrested and killed by police officers in America. And here is the key statistic... out of 10 million arrests in America only One thousand of them resulted in the deaths of the arrested person...And incredibly only 41 of those people were unarmed and The majority of the unarmed were white. Overwhelmingly policeman in the United States practice safe procedures.

There are Muslim police officers in America and they are being degraded and insulted by the frenzied black lives matters rioters and looters
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