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iantot0617
I believe jesus is a prophet and the our father means it's ours not just his and you won't understand what i believed. That's why i convert because there's something wrong happened in the past that no one would understand. You'll go crazy first until you know what that prayer means. I believe Allah swt knows best and there's nothing wrong with that prayer. He is praying to Allah swt by saying father does'nt mean his real father. May our father Allah swt someday clear that to anyone who believes in Him no matter how crazy will it be. Ameen
Peace be with you
I am not in anyway attempting to call you out on your beliefs. There's no reason to do so. Of course I don't "understand" what you believe. I have no idea who you are and your beliefs are not for me to question. I asked only for the reason behind your wording of the lords prayer in the OP. Because I am curious and I am always willing to learn a thing or ten.
Except that Allah is no one's father. Not mine or anyone else's. Not in any way, shape or form. Creator is not creation. Ever. I do not recall him being referenced anywhere in the quran or in any hadith as such. In fact, I only heard that in sunday school. But if that is how you feel about it, I will not get on your case. I , as well as others here, have pointed it out and your conversion to islam should have made it clear to you.
As for the reason for your conversion or for anything that happened in your past, again, I made no reference to that either. It is certainly none of my business. I asked about a prayer that you posted, which was slightly different than what I had learned
About understanding or not understanding, I made it quite clear that I did not fully understand what the prayer was all about. I referenced a personal anecdote of mine. I have a bad habit of doing that, I will rectify my ways انشالله
Now "going crazy" because I don't understand something? Nope. I actually don't. I seek knowledge and I ask anyone who might know. If theres no answer, then so be it. As you stated,
Allah knows best. All we can do is learn. Sometimes that means learning to just accept
I am not the person to drive myself crazy about things. I've found it to be a very unproductive and downright destructive thing to do. Oh, this is also simply an opinion of mine. Look in other things I wrote: I have a bunch of opinions and questions.
Please forgive me if my previous posts somehow offended you or caused you to think I am questioning you or your faith. That is between you and Allah alone. No one else has any business going between.
Peace and blessings upon you and your family and may allah make your affairs easy for you