Self control

[Sunshineday]

I see people with less self-control, leading to them struggling to sort themselves out and being religious.

There are some points to consider in Islam:

1. Nowhere does it say that you have the time for counselling and support groups-you could die at anytime

2. When people are critical of some groups they claim that don't understand mental illness - I don't believe that it's about they don't understand but the world was not setup that way. For example, they had to go out and work, farm etc and get food on the table and not just hold sessions with people.

3. This is not meant to be a criticism of people with mental health issue, but I believe that the system is geared to tell people just to sit there and talk -here Allah is not going to be saying to anyone that they should have sat with you to support you whilst in this world-that wasn't the criteria. With people in the past and many examples you do need to take each day as it comes and learn more understand your own behaviours.

4. There are children who are aren't taught much to self control their minds and bodies. Used to be an emphasis on the little things that have huge importance-to sit still, when visiting other people's homes to be respectful, dinner times to eat properly-all leading to self-control and discipline. I am not saying that this is the issue with everyone (as they need to understand their own behaviours and what makes them tick), but to highlight there are instances were people don't build proper self control, this is here the Shaytaan takes advantage.

5. Like to also use the end example of wrong doers, they may still and destroy property-all down to lack of control, if they were at a party, they would probably want to take more that their fare share of cake, if they liked what someone else had they wish to take it. What people are being taught today is to get everyone else to be nice to them-people should be respectful. But here, the evil doers believe that if they were just given everything that they would be good-but this is wrong as they are not sorting themselves out, but asking the environment to be changed for them. Even Allah didn't just give Paradise to them. There is a lot of blame game and not proper talking of how to deal with problems, but more of how to make others understand. Well Allah is not going to treat that individual as if they were treated badly, if they were not able to participate in a counselling session, that such and such person didn't understand them-as that is not the criteria or the job for anyone to do. To be kind yes, but to ask people to sit and work, which is what is essentially the level of the own mind works doesn't make any sense. As Muslims we give the poor their due-it is not about giving people whatever they want, if we did that it would just be following the desires of people.

6. People wouldn't be asking their elderly parents to provide them with more support due to mental health issues, they've already done the job of raising them up-asking too much-again not the setup. This is where Allah is not going to say to anyone on the Day of Judgement that should have just sat and support and motivated people -as that is treating this world like you have all the time in the world.

Need to hold onto the fact that this is a test, and not a life, there is no guarantee that you will get what you want, Allah says that he may give you something of what you ask for, not he definitely well. The time that is being spent and discussions had is a distraction from their test and their reward in the hereafter. I agree with the fact that it is a serious issue, but somehow no matter how many information is put forward, relevant questions are not being asked, such as expectations of what they can have and in terms of the setup of this world, were anything could happen i.e natural disaster. I think people use references from people in the past going through a bad time, to endorse it's OK for them to be that way, but what they have to remember is that none of the people in the past asked for support groups to have a chit chat with, or a complaint of others that they didn't understand what they were going through.

I think people are less disciplined which explains some of the problems they do go through, following bad desires and looking at the life of this world.

[Sunshineday]

I also like to add, believe that people are purposely being treated as if they are incapable. But going back to Allah's word that is not true (only for those who are excused (mentally insane, mentally disabled etc). There is too much talk of people asking others to make the environment good for them, or in such a way that they wouldn't think of doing bad deeds-this is the opposite to Allah, if this was the only way for people to be good, than Allah would have given us Paradise. You here of people who say they cannot help themselves, unless they are given some sort of support-even if they wait for years -but here you can die at anytime. There are some people who claim benefit say if they didn't get it they would steal-then no control. Also like to mention how they cannot replace what Allah has taught of the wrong doers behaviour. Like to point out some behaviour- 1. If a child is not taught to behave, simple things when visitng other people's home, not washing their hands before meals, how are they going to learn? 2. There are children who just scribble the answer for their homework and hand it in and say its done-here being complacent. There are people who if they went to a party would want to take more than their fair share of food, touch things that don't belong to them. If they touch things and break them, they accept it was a stupid thing they did and shouldn't have done it, but couldn't help themselves at the time. If at a immature age, you see a box, your going to break it, if you see a pen, you're going to scribble everywhere with it, if you see some cake, you're going to eat it, without thinking of what matters. This is where people when they are older look at other people's property and just wish to destroy, steal, harm people's bodies. So when you confront them, they have a blank expression on their faces and it wasn't much significant for them to do. This is where they do wish to treat it as a mistake and ask to have another chance. The psychology cannot replace what Allah has taught us about them-from the Day of Judgement say that if they were told and be given another chance they would do it better-people in this world at times wish they were told, they act if they weren't, but they were, Here they were not paying attention like some children who want to "have fun" with their friends at school, and then complain afterwards that they would have paid attention if they were taught differently-but this is not the case it is rather that they are asking people to confront them and shake them. But it is not the job of others to prevent you from being one of the wrong doers, we are each responsible for our minds and bodies. Allah himself is not going to be saying to the wrong doers, that actually you should have got people to shake you aggressively and make you listen. Neither is he going to say it is the job of others to walk with you, creating a good setting so that you'll be good. They are not complicated subjects but rather that people who do bad deeds, don't listen, pay attention, be complacent, inconsiderate-here they say something that no good person ever does, they look down on those needing help in a sort of smugness as if they are saying you want me to help you, rather than the believers who believer it is a privilege to help others.