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And Eddy insisting on the 12 cousins to learn the bear story orally and to reject the textual version...even though the 12 cousins are more than capable of verifying that the textual version is accurate.
Well, I think you and mister smart (Supernova) have just proved my point but I don't believe for a second "the 12 cousins" could verify the textual version is accurate, it is the opposite, the textual version is the one that can prove and correct the mistakes of the oral version.
As (AabiruSabeel) kindly showed, there is to the day a chain of oral Quran transmission.
To be correct it is not a 100% oral transmission because it is aided by written Qurans.
So even if it is a wonderful practice it doesn't lead all the way to Prophet Muhammad.
This doesn't mean the Quran memorized today is not the exact one revealed to prophet Muhammad, it could be or maybe not, there's no way for us to say.
I'm pretty sure there was a real oral chain for some time but later we got the written Quran and as mister Smart (Supernova) said, "any verbal transmitted story in any sphere of life - it would be eventually be represented in textual format.".
At that precise time the real oral chain became what it is today, (a memorization practice of the current Quran).
Now I can say with total confidence that the Muslim "apologists" who at speakers corner lie every week when they claim there's a 100% oral tradition that they are WRONG.
Special thanks to AbiruSabeel for the information provided.
We could have done just fine without mister Smart remarks.