Greetings,
Yes, seems Allah can't make up his mind, wheter to be nice or bad.
And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allah, lest they insult Allah wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do. (6:108)
For the above verse I’m not going to stoop to the level of insulting you or what you believe.
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
The amount of time I have seen this verse used due to not comprehending what it means is just plain boring.
With the Qur’an each verse is sent for a reason, and thus you need to understand why the verse was sent and when it was sent. If you don’t know the origin and purpose of the verse you won’t understand it and thus falsehood is spread about it. I’m not going to blame you; there are plenty of anti-Islamic websites that are jumping up and down due to the existence of this verse. However, as soon as you refute it they hide, oh the irony.
I'm in a rush at the moment so i'll post something later to clear the misconception about the above verse, if someone else posts it before me then that is good.
Yes, very merciful I must admit. Humans are not immune to flaws, true. Now can you please tell me the names of some muslim countries that have a
democracy that is not firmly controlled by religious people and that is not put in a bad light by any human rights organisations?
Oh yes the great democracy. Democracy is praising and encouraging the homosexuals, free speech which causes distress amongst certain groups, superiority, arrogance, child molesters, rapists, murders (whom get a slap on the wrist), fathers rapping their own children, consuming alcohol, drugs, heterosexuals….need I go any further? The list is endless. The reason Muslim countries are failing is because we have not taken the shar’iah law, the law prescribed by God, who knows us better than ourselves. Like I said we can sit here picking at the flaws of humans and believe me it would take us decades but that isn’t the point of this forum. It is called Islamic forum and thus Islam is what we refer to not human desires and mistakes.
I am afraid I will have to answer yes to that question, most americans are ignorant or at best unaware. Americans has been led for decades to believe that their gouvernment is an elected and democratic one. The thruth is the totally opposite. I don't know what agenda those who controls The US has, but I am certain it is not peace and human rights. US authorities are downright evil and definitely not christian. Bush himself is a pagan and a member of Skulls and Bones, a secret society (as all other earlier presidents before him), and I wouldn't begrudge him the title christian if you lit a torch and poked me in the eye with it.
Wow what a paragraph, well Bush speaks for himself but I wouldn’t go to the extent of saying
majority of Americans are ignorant. Furthermore, UK is America’s best friend, though they do back stab one another in darkness. However, I wouldn’t say one country is better than the other. After all British troops did join the US, so does that not speak for itself? Anyhoo I prefer not to dwell on politics.
Well, if the muslims are unable to practice what they read in The Quran, then where is the fault?
The people themselves are to blame, how many Christians actually practice the bible, such a small percentage, most of them are Christians by title and we have some Muslims like that. How is that Islam’s fault?
Why doens't christian countries go to war at each other?
Have you done history on Ireland, Protestants V Catholics, doesn't that ring a bell? you'll notice that christians do go to war with one another.
There must be things ridden in The Quoran that muslim leaders can use to hide behind?
You can do that with everything, You'll know this had you done years of analytical study of poems or books. The minority who use Islam as a scapegoat will get their payment in the highest court in front of God. Furthermore just because few muslims use Islam as a way to cause havoc does not mean that is what Islam is about.
And when it is said to them:
"Make not mischief on the earth,"
They say: "We are only peacemakers."
Verily! They are the ones
who make mischief,
But they do not perceive. (2:11-12)
Theoretically, peace exists inside Dar ul-Islam, the House of Submission. I say theoretically, because we all know that Muslims, even though they are not supposed to, do fight fellow Muslims. The most recent examples are the civil war in Afghanistan between the Pushtuns on one side and the Northern Alliance (Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc.,) on the other. Other recent exceptions were the Iraqi attack on Iran, the Iraqi attack on Kuwait, the West Pakistani attack on East Pakistan which subsequently became Bangladesh, the Yemeni Civil War with Egypt and Saudi Arabia interfering, the civil war in Algeria, the war between Morocco and Algeria over the Saharan Republic, etc.
Islam can be practised and it is practised, however, the minority who don't always get the most attention and it is only those minority that the world recognises. Just because two parties are at war and they happen to be muslim does not mean that is what Islam is all about. You seem to be confusing Islam and the manner of how some muslims conduct themselves, which is a great error no doubt.
Peace is possible if those who called themselves Muslim practised what they preached.
You say that it is only a coincedense that muslim countries are so often involved in wars? Now please show me the peacefull islamic nations? Which are they?
There is no Islamic state at this moment but look at the history of Islam and you'll find many. Note:
this does not mean you dash out info from anti-islamic websites.
Yes, please show me! We have the United States, and you may say that they have killed so many in the arab world, but guess what? I don't consider the US a christian country NOR a democracy.
That is very interesting, so tell us which countries do you consider
christian and democratical?
But show me where muslims have been massacred the same whay they have massacred others?
Battle of Kerbala, First Crusade, Seige of Acre, Chamerian massacre, Yelwa massacre etc those are just few which came to mind.
Then what is the point? What is the point with Islam, if it has laws that are impossible for humans to follow?
Its not impossible for humans to follow, its simple but muslim countries are too busy trying to please the west and why islamic law has not been adopted in many muslim countries is only known to their rulers and Allah (swt).
"When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then maim them in every limb and smite of them each finger."
"(It will be said): Take him and fetter him and then expose him to hell-fire And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is 70 cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in allah the Tremendous, And urged not on the feeding of the wretched, Therefore hath he no lover here this day, Nor any food save filth Which none but sinners eat."
Peacefull?
Would you like me to quote from the bible? The above verses are talking about the calamity that will befall those who turn their back on the truth in the hereafter or a past event. God is merciful and if you do what is good for your heart then verily you will be rewarded and if you're amongst the transgressors. Well i'm sure you know, if you steal you might find yourself in prison. I'm sure alot of people in jail are probably thinking
this isn't fair and what not.
Really? What does the Quoran say about non-muslims (disbelievers) then?
I find it strange that you will quote something without even knowing its meaning or the reason why the verse was sent. Non-muslim is not the same as a disbeliever (kufar). Jews are non-muslims but they are not disbelievers but an atheist who has been shown the truth and ignores, mocks Islam is one who has disbelieved in the message while it has been given to them.
Wa Allahu'3llim (and God knows best)
And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allah, lest they insult Allah wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do.
Say, "Dispute you with us about Allah
while He is our Lord and your Lord?
And we are to be rewarded for our deeds
and you for your deeds.
And we are sincere to Him
in worship and obedience."
Regards
Silver Pearl