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kososhahab
02-07-2006, 01:19 PM
[B]Response to the Danish Caricature Of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w[B]

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My bros and sis out there...
don u think its better to b peaceful than to terrorize pple out there...
why cant we juz show them that Islam is really peaceful? why? why cant we do that? is it so dificult????

i'm not sayin that we cant protest ...insted we hav the rite to protest, but i also think that we shud do it peacefully..
even our rasul s.a.w took the mocking from the disbelievers peacefully. he didnt burn down their house...
so what i propose to muslims out there to b peaceful at the same time justify our rites as a muslim...

Anyway Allah s.w.t is the All-Knower and i think Allah know what to do with the dannish journalist....
And i also think that we shudnt harm the innocents...
I want to apologise for spelling the word Prophet wrongly..Thanks

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Yur Bro,
Muhammad
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yasin
03-04-2006, 02:41 AM
a peaceful demonstration holds a lot of power,

a peaceful intellectual form of demonstration or protest is indestructible.

It's good to hear somebody who is offended by the violent reactions of 'Muslims' all over the world
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sheerheart1
04-16-2006, 07:04 PM
[BANANA]many danish embraced islam after this happening but our argument is not with the danish people but with the goverment and the news paper we talk about boycotting thier products i agree somewhat but what about all the other countries that also published these cartoons if u boycotte one should u not boycotte all [/BANANA]
And our prophet s.w.s went through alot more difficult humiliating times
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extinction
04-16-2006, 07:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sheerheart1
[BANANA]many danish embraced islam after this happening but our argument is not with the danish people but with the goverment and the news paper we talk about boycotting thier products i agree somewhat but what about all the other countries that also published these cartoons if u boycotte one should u not boycotte all [/BANANA]
And our prophet s.w.s went through alot more difficult humiliating times
hear hear!!
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salafiah
04-20-2006, 04:34 PM
denmark done very bad.
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Islamic_Always
04-25-2006, 05:05 PM
Assalaam o alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakathu
I live in Denmark! and the hole thing about our beloved prophet Muhammad Salla Allahu Alayhl wa Sallam is far from over! every singel day one can read in danish news paper there war on islam & Muslim below i urge you to read whats been said about us as muslims and about Rasul Allah salla allahu Alayhl wa sallam

Some Truth on the danish political party DPP Danish people party and a
support team to prime minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen of Denmark

Let me start by saying i am a muslim converted to islam (Alhamdulillah)
trew out the years islam and the muslim have been victims of hate from
the vest and beyond!" many anti muslim haters, aswell anti muslim writers
like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Irshad Manji, & Salman Rushdie, as well so called
islamic expert Like a man such as Daniel Pipes, and Theo Van Gogh, who
all have gone out of there way to lie false on Islam and the muslim trew
out the world.Now danish Jyllands posten newspaper in the name of free
press tell us we danish ppl and ppl outside of denmark have to get youse
to funny pictures according to them of driffent religions.But in this
case, and only in this case, it have to do with the muslim..Nore do we
see cartoons hatefull pictures made of the christians ore the jews
because of respect towords there feelings.I now youse my VOICE to let you
know of some info about in this case The party in denmark called DPP..Not
every danish man/woman support the drawings on Rasul allah saws.But the
hate towords the muslim for the last 10 years have been out of order..and
like i say Enough is Enough..How come a muslim is fanatic according to
others when they express themeself i am here letting you all know the
TRUTH..To all my muslim friends let the world know what you fell express
yourself according to The Quran & the sunnah and ackt likewise

1.Mogens Camre form the party DPP.Who many times have express his
anti-islamic rhetoric thougts like.Muslim only talk nice to people in
order to make us trust them,for in the end the muslim will kill us.
Mogens Camre E-mail at the Eu Parlamentet is mcamre@europarl.eu.int

2.Kristian Thulsen Dahl from this party DPP. Says that islam is the
biggest threat to the world and a threat to the western world.It eats us
up from inside and the struktur of ours.
Kristian Thulsen Dahl E-mail is dfkrtd@ft.dk

3.Kenneth Kristensen is mamber of the danish party DPP.He have express
that in his eys danish convert to islam is a BIG threat.More then a born
muslim.So he would much like to could kick born danish people out of
denmark because of there choice to islam.Also one can read on his parivat
hompage that he is against a muslim graveyard
Kenneth Kristensen E-mail is kenneth.k@dfu-nettet.dk

4.Louise Frevert who is a member of the danish party DPP and is a x-porno
star her in denmark have said about muslim on her web-page.Muslim is like
cancer it has to be removed.And muslim have been brain wash for over a
1000 years now.Its is said in the danish press that it was not her own
words but the words of her web-master..all tho the same day danish news
got hold of the story she had those strong feelings towords muslim in
denmark and first not deny her hard feelings like islam and muslim was
like cancer.On her privat home page she had a link called artikel now one
had the nerve to print.Her she write her thouhts on muslim.Also we read
in the news her in denmark as well heard in the news Miss Louise Frevert
send sms around to boycot muslim shops..because the islamic world have
done the same with stuff from denmark Miss Louise frevert E-mail is
louise.frevert@ft.dk

Jesper langballe from the party DPP.Says on islam we have to fight islam
and the Hijab like we fight against Hitler..This man is a priest and a
political man.He have express his hard feelings on muslim in denmark for
many years now he also said once that peopels rights is somthing the
devil have made up Jesper langballe E-mail is dfjela@ft.dk

Pia Kjærsgaard The founder of (DPP) have express daily har hate towords
muslims in denmark..he week news edition normily have some kind of
anti-islamic thoughts.She once said in denmark there is no room for Allah
Ore Muhammad.She have also many times espress her hate towards the Hijab
of the muslim women to ban it..She have also express to ban the group
Hizb ut Tahrir for some years now.Everything that have to do with islam
Pia kjærsgaard calls absurd

Alex Ahrendtsen from the party (DPP) Says abput the Quran that every
danish man/women should have it on thre night tabel like the book (mein
kampf) (My Fight) because Alex says it is his finest job as a tru
christian to tell the truth on islam.This man is very redikal anti-muslim
fanatic like the rest of the party (Dpp) many lies have been writte about
the Quran from Mr Alex himself.Some things said to driffent danisk news
paper from Mr Alex (muslim have put out holy war on the west,and the get
to many children) (the muhammadan quran says to be violent) (the quran
teach to kill all jews & Christian) (one cant say a mosque is a house of
peace like a church) (Only peopel born in denmark danes should get
help,not the muslims) (if denmark gives the right to build a mosque in
denmark its like a war on every christians) (the fight on islam is a
christian fight as well as a political one) the list goes on and one
E.mail to Mr Alex Ahrendtsen is alex@ahrendtsen.dk & aahr@odense.dk

Niels Erik søndergård member of the party (DPP) he have written alot
about the quran like his fellow friend Alex Ahrendtsen many lies on
muslim..Even he writes in the news paper that it is really bad for
denmark and the west muslim get more children then what defind normal.
His E-mail is n.e.s@mail.tele.dk

Martin Henriksen form the party (DPP) say on muslims
Martin Henriksen, however, has also
been criticised for having a website that is equally
anti-Muslim.

'From its beginning, Islam has been a terrorist
movement,' Henriksen stated on his website, warning
against letting Muslims run for office in parliament
and municipal councils.

'It's well known that Islam is lying low, well-knowing
that no Islamic group or state has the military power
it takes to conquer us. The goal we know, the method
is to quietly take over and infiltrate our democratic
institutions,' Henriksen said on his website.

Danish converts to Islam get their share of the blame
as 'moral criminals'.

'These young Danes, who turn their backs on their
heritage and thereby all of us, are committing an
indescribable moral crime,' the website stated.

The website was discussed in a DF parliamentary group
meeting last Thursday, where Henriksen said he had
received full backing from his fellow party members.

'It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that an MP
from the Danish People's Party is critical of Islam.
It's a part of the party's policy, so I'm not removing
anything from my website,' Henriksen told national
broadcaster DR.
His E-mail is martin.henriksen@ft.dk

The new Children book written in danish by Kåre Bluitgen about The Nobel
Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah saws) is selling good at the moment in
denmark.In the book there are pictures of rasul allah saws not good once
but very bad,and they try and make muhammad saws look like a evil
man..some danish imams says about the book that this writter Kåre
Bluitgen made on muhammad saws is like the devil would describe
himself...
In denmark there are book shops with good books on Rasul Allah saws and
even last year a new good book on muhammad saws came out written by a
danish muslim..But peopel overlook that.But now in the holy name of free
press when a book comes out in order to provoke muslim and islam its a
bestseller.

Some Danish politcian like the Party called Free Denmark who is a team that
only have a agenda to spred lies about islam to every dane!

her are some words of this party called (free Denmark)

Words of the head master of the party Michael Ellegaard (Boycot every shop
in denmark like some islamic contrys boycot us.Dondt by the pizza muslims
make nore shop in there shops everywhere in denmark.Boycot oil from islamic
contrys and dondt travel to muhammadan contrys boycot air planes to islamic
contrys.Go in the street and tell what islam is really about.Give islams
prophet the finger aswell as the muslim her..)

in a respond to me..i had a dialog with this man here is what he wrote to
me.

(where the smells of pig there must be a muslim & islam)

to abdallah Andersen i dondt whant to her from your stupid mother father
sister ore brother because you all smell like ****.so you and your family
can go elswere and get the hell out of denmark i hate you muslim so
much.you all smell like ****.

This man dondt know i converted to islam years back..so denmark is my home
aswell contry..This is not the first time muslim her get these letters
telling us to get the hell out of denmark..some imams at the moment get
threat letteres send to them and the local news papers in denmark write all
kind of stuff about them

This party called free denmark i call almost a nazi org also have statement
on ther web-site where on member says about the Holy Quran its like toilet
paper

this past sunday the 12/2 this man Michael Ellegaard march forth with a man
called Moses Hansen who have his own aganda against muslim called (muhammad
is dead,jesus lives) he calls the prophet muhammad the worst thing like the
most evil man ever........a pædofile.. a woman beater....a killer...islam
is the religion of satan..and so forth

the web-site www.fritdk.dk is written in danish.....

This man Michael Ellegaard have yoused himself violent mesure once, as he> cut a young mans face with a knife in a public garden her in denmark..he
lies alomst everyday about islam muslim & muhammad saws.

This past week we saw in denmark a muslim grave yeard was destroy, stones
and wood was broken..who left some muslim heart broken..ofcause


Now the danish news papers write that the danes her in a pool they
made..says that they dondt really enymore have respect for muslims..so the
tone is hard everyday in the media...

Muslims a threat to Danish Religion





Minister of Social Affairs Karen Jespersen: "We should have listened to Per Madsen…"


An opinion poll conducted by Sonar shows that Danes are becoming increasingly opposed to Islam. 56% of Danes consider the roughly 130,000 Muslims in Denmark as "a threat to the Danish religion and culture" (Source: Jyllands-Posten, 26.9.) A similar Sonar-Poll conducted in 1997 put the figure at 46%. The greatest resistance to Islam is to be found among the voters of the Danish People's Party (Dansk Folkeparti), where the figure is a predictable 94%.


Another Sonar-inquiry shows, that 48% would "react negatively" if a Muslim woman, wearing a headscarf, were to work the checkout at the supermarket (source: Jyllands-Posten, 30.9.).


A third Sonar-inquiry shows, that 41% of Danes want refugee- and immigration policy put to the people in a referendum (source: Jyllands-Posten, 3.10.). Among Danish People's Party voters, 88% are in favour of a referendum.


Jørgen Bæk Simonsen , leader of the Carsten Niebuhr Institute at Copenhagen University, sees a growing cultural racism in Denmark: "For more than ten years I have been travelling the length and breadth of the country, holding talks on Muslims and Islam and for the most part I have never experienced any actual racist attitude in Denmark. On the other hand, I do experience a form of cultural racism, where the negative attitude to Muslims is "packed in" in politically correct attitudes, e.g. the position of women in society. And this attitude is obviously, that Islamic culture is inferior to Danish culture. But this is caused to a large degree by the fact that the Danes cannot or will not hear what Muslims are saying." (Jyllands-Posten, 26.9.)


Minister of social affairs Karen Jespersen is probably a perfect example of this "not actually racist", but "culturally racist" attitude, draped in the mantle of politically correct opinions and beliefs: "It is a big mistake to view the cultural differences as something symbolic, on a par with our "roast pork" and "Christmas Day". For many immigrants, it's a question of completely different norms, not least in attitudes towards women. It simply won't do: If immigrants want to remain in this country, then they have to be part of Danish society. This does not mean that they have to cast aside all of their culture, but basically they have to learn to function under the terms of the Danish society." (B.T., 22,10.) Karen Jespersen continues: "We must likewise go on the offensive against the extremely intolerant attitude some immigrants display towards Danes. For example, hassling girls that wear oversized trousers, or boys that dress differently than they do themselves. In a worst-case scenario, it could end with gangs of young immigrants terrorising a local community. I have unfortunately myself experienced a very prejudicial attitude towards Danes. This could result in very dangerous and heavy-handed conflicts, because of course; Danes will not accept this in the long run (…) It was a major betrayal of young immigrants, that the Danish society quietly accepted such reprehensible practices as arranged marriages and forced marriages. From the Danish point of view, many saw it as a "cultural peculiarity" which immigrants should be allowed to practice. Instead of going on the offensive against these misogynist attitudes."


In the same interview, the minister of social affairs maintains that "We should have listened to Per Madsen" Ishøj's Social Democratic Lord Mayor (Ishøj is a satellite town to Copenhagen). "He drew attention to these problems at a very early stage -- and was very unpopular. But he was proved to be more right than we were prepared to give him credit for at the time."


This Per Madsen, who Karin Jespersen is now bringing in from the cold, is the same individual who in The Danish Society's (Danske Forenings) member's journal, amongst other things, expressed the view that "Muslims are still living in the middle ages, with an oppression of women and female culture which is unheard of in this country. Women are bought and sold as if they were cattle, and women are beaten and mistreated" (Danskeren [The Dane] no.1, 1989, p.3).


The Social Democratic leadership have certainly shifted position in the course of the last ten years. Right into the arms of The Danish Society's stereotypical image of foreigners as the enemy -- even though the Social Minister still makes a mild effort to make it seem more palatable.





Glistrup's resurrection


At the Progress Party's (Fremskridtspartiets) annual convention in 1997, 80% voted no to the re-admission of Mogens Glistrup to the party from which he was excluded in 1991, but to the shock of the party's parliamentary members, he was once again voted into the party he founded during the convention of 1999. 236 delegates voted for, while 131 delegates, together with the four parliamentary members, voted against.


He was not many minutes returned to the party before he wreaked havoc at the annual convention, when as a newly admitted member, he found himself ineligible as a candidate to the central committee and loudly accused the party leadership of being corrupt and rotten and threatened with a court case.


Glistrup demanded to be the party's campaign leader and made it clear that there was a need for a completely new party manifesto -- and concerning what had just been adopted: "It is only fit for the bin." (Jyllands-Posten, 27.9.) During the following days, Glistrup made the headlines with statements about selling Muslim girls to Paraguay and deporting all Muslims out of the country, and the Progress Party's four members of Parliament collectively resigned from the party in protest and founded the movement "Freedom 2000" (Frihed 2000).


According to Glistrup, his tactic was to intentionally cause havoc: "Hopefully I have trod on so many toes, that just like my other comments, it will be remembered for many years to come. The Progress Party's only chance is to wake those who have been lulled to sleep. We shouldn't try to enamour ourselves to the old politicians." (Jyllands-Posten, 30.9.) "The goal was to get in and cause havoc. That, in essence, is what the Progress Party thrives on." (Jyllands-Posten, 1.10.)


It was "a capital blunder to say yes to Glistrup again", wrote Jyllands-Posten in it's editorial the 1.10; "He's mad" was written on the first page of Ekstra Bladet the 13.10. None of the daily newspapers supported Glistrup's comments; nevertheless, the Progress Party's electoral support rose with the resurrection of Glistrup, from 1.5% to 3.4% in the space of a few days, according to a "Gallup Poll" in Politiken.


And on the background of a political message, the more supercilious of which, we undoubtedly would have to return to Nazi Germany to find:


"We just can't import Mohammedans and more Mohammedans, and it's only to annihilate and kill Danes that they come here." (Denmark's TV2-News, 27.9)


"They get three months to leave the country. And if they don't leave, then they will be rounded up and put in camps, like we had the refugees in at one time, and invite people to submit tenders, those who will pay the most, they get them. For example, Paraguay says: 'We would like 6,000 Mohammedan girls between the ages of 12 and 20, and we would like to pay five million for them,' yea, and these five millions, they end up in the Danish state coffers, don't they." (DR-P3's radio program "U-land", 28.9.)


"I suggest an extra 8,000 officers. Such a force would be necessary to round up the Mohammedans when the law is adopted, and in the meantime they can be used against the bikers, junkies and burglars." (Jyllands-Posten, 1.10.)


"Of course I'm a racist -- all good Danes are. Either you're a racist, or else you're a traitor." (Berlingske Tidende, 11.10.)


"Have you never heard, the way subjects like Barsebäck (Swedish nuclear power plant in the vicinity of Copenhagen) or pesticides in farm produce and so on, are discussed? Any and every doubt, should be to the detriment of the malign, and that is why it doesn't matter if we happen to deport 100,000 too many. We are already too many on the Danish soil, so if we happen to deport 3-4-500,000 too many, than that's OK. It would be worse if we deported too few." (Ekstra Bladet, 13.10.)


At a meeting in November, the Progress Party's representative committee, decided yet again to distance themselves sharply from Glistrup's comments, but nevertheless, decided to keep him on as a member and parliamentary candidate. So in that way the party plays it safe -- who knows, he might even attract (yet) more voters…





Ekstra Bladet's new campaign against immigrants


On the 24th Oct. Ekstra Bladet launches its third campaign directed against immigrants within the space of the last few years: "The New Denmark".


In a full-page advertisement in bold print, it states: "In Denmark I was not born, but here I make my home." The advertisement proclaims, that there now are "413.873 people with foreign backgrounds" living in Denmark -- of course this includes everybody, whether they be American and Australian or African and Asian. Not withstanding, it is the Muslims who for the most part, are the exclusive focus of the campaign, as for example, the Muslim who wishes to " Islamise the whole world", while no Christian, with for instance, an American pedigree, clutters up the headlines. Apparently, it is neither unusual, nor sensational and suspect to find for example, an ex- American who wishes to "Americanise the whole world" or Christianise.


In the campaign's introduction article, Ekstra Bladet's chief editor, Sven Ove Gade writes, that for sure there can be "no doubt" that "gross discrimination of foreigners is an everyday occurrence" after which deep-felt expression for "objectively" to part the sun and the wind the following observation is upheld: "One of the major stumbling-blocks is religion, more precisely Islam which is a political religion, where the goal, at least as far as the Islamic fundamentalists are concerned, is the introduction of a religious state, and where Islamic Sharia law takes precedence over the civil, earthly law. Islamic law is God's law, and God can hardly be accommodated [under] the democratic decisions of the Danish democracy."


That "fundamentalists" are to be found in every religion -- and every political trend -- is apparently of little or no relevance, and Gade's characterization of "the Islamic fundamentalists" is led neatly and gracefully to an identification of these "fundamentalists" and that which he terms "a reality" which also is presented as a depiction of Denmark: "It is a reality which has to be considered -- Danes and Muslim immigrants -- for if we allow Islamic law to take precedence over Danish law, then it will not be long before Danish society is transformed."


The next step is for this "a reality" just as neatly and gracefully to become "the reality" and after that to become "this brutal reality": "Brutal maybe, but that's reality. And it is this reality which every Muslim must consider, if he or she wishes to become an equal member of the Danish society."


Brutal manipulation and propaganda, maybe, but that is the scope of Sven Ove Gade's reality.





No Muslims for us please, we are Danes





A wave of xenophobia is sweeping Denmark, but its nice Nordic people reject any charges of racism - arguing, without any trace of irony, that as 'nationalists and Christians' they merely object to having 'Muslims and Arabs' in their midst. And since the country has a tiny immigrant population and, unlike States in southern Europe, does not fear an influx of Muslim job- or asylum-seekers, especially given its high rates of employment, the Islamophobia gripping the land must have been long-standing as well as deep-seated.


Most Danes will resent a charge of racism, arguing that the current xenophobia is temporary and stems from the perception of many Danish people that refugees and immigrants - mostly from the Middle East and Africa - are doing better under the country's generous welfare system than they are.


Even those who admit that there is a growing tide of racism tend to draw a distinction between racism and antipathy to a religion, which is alien to the country's western and Christian civilisation. Hans Jorgen Nielsen, professor of political science at Copenhagen University, said in a recent newspaper interview that while that perception is responsible for the rising xenophobia, the brunt of the resentment is directed against Muslims and Arabs - adding that the Vietnamese are popular.


'What seems to be out there is the feeling about immigrants that we get too little, and they get too much,' he told the International Herald Tribune. 'There are real racists out there, but they are a few. It is not a cosmopolitan society here. Some surveys show that the first and foremost opposition is the Muslim groups and the Arabs. The Vietnamese are absolutely popular.'


Nielsen implied that the real reason why Muslims were detested and the Vietnamese refugees lionised was the formers' greater resistance to assimilation. 'The negative feelings relate to how difficult it is to integrate people,' he said.


The anti-Islamic feeling is being whipped up by the rhetoric of a new and tiny political party that wants all immigrants to be deported and immigration laws to be tightened. Founded in 1995, the Danish Peoples Party (DPP) is led by Mrs Pia Kjaersgaard, a '50-year-old middle-class housewife and mother of two grown children,' as she describes herself.


Kjaersgaard, whose party is Denmark's answer to France's National Front, does not like Jean-Marie Le Pen, who leads the Front - dismissing him as a racist, and racism as a crime. But while calling racism a crime, this mother of two describes her own brand of xenophobia as 'nationalism', complaining that the word 'racism' is too readily applied to mere 'nationalists' like her. And she feels no qualms about calling for the expulsion of Muslims, calling them a problem, but Jews who are doing a 'good job.'


'It is a crime to be a racist, awful, and I don't like what I read about Le Pen of France,' Kjaersgaard said in a recent newspaper interview. 'I think the Muslims are a problem,' she added without any hint of irony. 'They are quite as good people as you or me. But it is a problem in a Christian country to have too many Muslims. We have had Jews for many years and they do a very good job.'


Her problem with Muslims, as distinct from Jews, is that they are not prepared to be assimilated, and that they simply do not like her - a rare frankness in a litany of fudge designed to camouflage her fierce racism.


'You must not show a negative attitude toward our traditions and that is the case, I think, for the Muslims,' she explained. 'They don't like me.'


Racists like this 'Christian' and 'Liberal Nordic' Lady do not care whether Muslims like them or not. Kjaersgaard's aim is to put her fledgling party on the map on the strength of her anti-Muslim rhetoric.


The first electoral test for the success of her rhetoric came on November 19, when the results of the first local elections (or national for that matter) held since the establishment of her party in 1995 were published. As her tiny and unknown party captured 7 per cent of the votes, she clearly had no complaint about the effectiveness of her anti-Muslim campaign. The DPP fielded candidates in 142 of Denmark's 275 districts, according to figures from the interior ministry.


Kjaersgaard saw the results as 'this fantastic breakthrough', describing them only as 'a beginning', and predicting that the party would 'go far' in the parliamentary elections that must be held by next September.


She had no doubt - and was frank enough to announce - that her party's electoral success was due to the voters' concern about immigration. 'These results showed that voters have had enough of the government's passive policy on immigration and said clearly that enough is enough,' she said during a television debate on November 19.


As foreign nationals account only for 4.5 percent of Denmark's population of 5.5 million, they are not that visible. Kjaersgaard's success in whipping up so much Islamophobia in such a short time in an environment lacking an immigration crisis must be due to the wider antipathy latent in the west's crusader psyche.


Well i know that some Imam from denmark have all said! that they think the Boycot should stop against Denmark! i must say (me) i am for it,I DONDT accept that they talk this way on Muhammad Salla Allahy alayhl wa sallam! Islam and so forth BELIVE me it hasent STOP her in littel Denmark...

fi aman allah
Abdallah A
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mujahedeen2087
05-04-2006, 02:17 AM
yeah we need t be peaceful, we should have protested peacefuly and called the danish newspaper out about what they have done. this was a great chance to explain to the people of the world about islam. but instead we are violent and destroy things. this makes me sad. many people ask me why we are so angry about a cartoon. it is hard to explain.:heated:
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extinction
05-04-2006, 02:27 AM
an excellent post mashaAllah and I agree we basically by our actions proved them hundred percent right .....they said we were terrorists and we acted like a bunch of terrorists......p.s when I say we I dont literally mean you or me but just in general muslims
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*noor
05-04-2006, 02:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by hafizmo
an excellent post mashaAllah and I agree we basically by our actions proved them hundred percent right .....they said we were terrorists and we acted like a bunch of terrorists......p.s when I say we I dont literally mean you or me but just in general muslims
so true
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syilla
05-04-2006, 02:45 AM
yeah like ghandi...

he protest peacefully and he won...
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beliefindeath
05-04-2006, 08:32 AM
Salam

Thumbs up for me.
I totally agree.
But to boycott danish products which has a big market in de middle east, i don't agree.. because wat did they do? Did they sponsor de newspaper dat published dese cartoons, after being published?
And boycotting means loss to the company becoming loss of jobs.
Turns out dat de muslims are de people hu mostly publicized dese cartoons by passin them out thru email?
The artist will get his punishment which is not in our hands...
So please try not to boycott Danish products...(unless they are haram)

Wassalam
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05-04-2006, 08:34 AM
i'm not sayin that we cant protest ...insted we hav the rite to protest, but i also think that we shud do it peacefully..
even our rasul s.a.w took the mocking from the disbelievers peacefully. he didnt burn down their house...
so what i propose to muslims out there to b peaceful at the same time justify our rites as a muslim...

Oh yeah......agreed :thumbs_up
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SirZubair
05-04-2006, 12:01 PM
Muslims are very good at dishing out 'collective guilt' but when it comes to taking 'collective guilt',we cry a river.

What do i mean?

A muslim blows up a building,..the world shouts "Terrorist!" and we shout back "They dont represent us!"

Then

An editor of some newspaper publishs a disrespectable cartoon,and muslims all around the world decide to boycott products made by the Country the paper was printed in.

It isnt fair to make a country suffer fr the actions of one man.
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Muslim Soldier
05-04-2006, 01:05 PM
Zubair it might not be fair, yes but to show our anger and disappointment we must protest so that they too understand.

During the time of prophets whoever was associated with the mischievious people were punished wether they were mischivious or not.
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SirZubair
05-04-2006, 01:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Soldier
Zubair it might not be fair, yes but to show our anger and disappointment we must protest so that they too understand.
In that case akhi,dont cry a river next time a bombing happens and someone walks past you and gives you an evil look because of the fact that you are a muslim.
..like you said,...it might not be fair..but its a way of showing anger and disappointment...

Works both ways.

Treat others as you would like to be treated.

by boycotting danish products,you're killing the income of hundreds of people.

And doing that isnt a very great form of da'wah.What will they see muslims as at the end of the day?

I am not saying that we have to walk around with the message "roses are red,violets are blue,sugar is sweet,islam is too",but have pride in your religon,show others the beauty of your religon.

And the best way to do it is by thinking to yourself "What would Muhammed s.a.w do if he was alive",and after answering that question honestly,you would forgive them for whatever wrong they have done and you would pray for them.

Islam is a beautiful religon,please dont rubbish it by acting like a child fighting over a piece of chewed gum in the playground.

Wa'salaam.

-Zubair
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Muslim Soldier
05-04-2006, 02:08 PM
Did you get the last part of my post?
Allah punished those who remained quiet when sins were committed. the same way, these people are partly responsible if they too dont do anything about it.
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Syed Nizam
05-04-2006, 02:20 PM
Brother Zubair,

I myself is quite baffled at the action of the muslim worldwide! I'm convinced now that the muslim in general are easily instigated! I'm very sure that the western media is ever ready to capture the whole incident and exposed it to the whole world, how `peaceful' the muslim are! Even the enemies of Islam readily knows about this fact and exploited it to the fullest..... Worse still, there are some muslim whose action is much worse and not befitting of a muslim at all! Are we ignorance or what?

About the boycotting issue, i do believe that it is the very best action that can be taken by the muslim community. United we stand. One for all & all for one. Get the message across... in a peaceful manner. But, i do agree with u that the measure must be atleast temporary.

Afterall, through the course of time... the beauty of Islam is truly manifests in the conviction and action of the ummah as have been exemplified by the prophet (pbuh) himself. Surely, only action counts. Not just any lip service by the muslim community.
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Islamic_Always
05-04-2006, 02:21 PM
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu
When muslim dondt in eny way ackt upon what the news paper Jyllands posten did.Its wrong i dondt say with violence! But what also hurts ppl now at days? MONY and if thats the way so be it!I do know our Umma sleeps.and thats why we have places like Quantanamo and so forth.ppl/Muslims should be ashame to not reackt towords what they do on the muslim world-wide aswell in my contry Denmark

I can tell last week we had some muslims from france in denmark the visit our Mosque and gave dawah! the police took them after a 45min talk a police man hit his Kufi hat of one of the muslims a huge police force came .muslim women and a children was hit by force.and what was there crime? being a Muslim Alhamdulillah.The police and the media ofcause dindet tell the truth.It was said because of the things going on around the world we had to do what we did says the police force..subhaan allah

The 13of may the English language islamic channel presents (Islamophobia) A dilemma in the west.

I say if you muslim (you have not rights) by the kufar hands
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Syed Nizam
05-04-2006, 02:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic_Always
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu
When muslim dondt in eny way ackt upon what the news paper Jyllands posten did.Its wrong i dondt say with violence! But what also hurts ppl now at days? MONY and if thats the way so be it!I do know our Umma sleeps.and thats why we have places like Quantanamo and so forth.ppl/Muslims should be ashame to not reackt towords what they do on the muslim world-wide aswell in my contry Denmark
Assalamualaikum,
I do believe that we, the muslim as an ummah should react in a peaceful way as have been guided by our own religion. Protests, YES! Riots, NO!

format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic_Always
I can tell last week we had some muslims from france in denmark the visit our Mosque and gave dawah! the police took them after a 45min talk a police man hit his Kufi hat of one of the muslims a huge police force came .muslim women and a children was hit by force.and what was there crime? being a Muslim Alhamdulillah.The police and the media ofcause dindet tell the truth.It was said because of the things going on around the world we had to do what we did says the police force..subhaan allah
I'm sad of the whole incident. But again, it is us who have to get the message accross to the uninformed that our religion is PEACE. In name & in essence! They (the Danish people in majority) acts like this because they have fear in Islam. Islam to them, is Islam as have been propagated in their media. There is no easy solution to this. That's why the muslim community have to work hard on conveying the real message of Islam. Not as an individual, but as an ummah!

format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic_Always
I say if you muslim (you have not rights) by the kufar hands
Maybe yes, maybe no. But surely we cant made the mistake by having a prejudice view on the community as a whole.
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Islamic_Always
05-04-2006, 02:45 PM
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu Brother but i cant agree.And i not say every danish man/woman hates muslim.Many do we see it in public and aswell the news paper daily. And to say many parts of the world not have made a war on islam and the muslim! is false Jazákallahu Khayran
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SirZubair
05-04-2006, 05:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Soldier
Did you get the last part of my post?
Allah punished those who remained quiet when sins were committed. the same way, these people are partly responsible if they too dont do anything about it.
Yes i did.

During the time of prophets whoever was associated with the mischievious people were punished wether they were mischivious or not.
Even the Women and the Children?Young and the Old?
Could you provide reference for that please akhi?

Shukran.
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SirZubair
05-04-2006, 05:58 PM
Before any1 else replies to any posts in this thread,please RIGHT CLICK on This link and SAVE it to your computer and listen to it.Once you have done so,insha'allah you might change your mind.

And if you dont,may allah s.w.t guide you.

Brothers and sisters,i urge each and everyone of you to change this mentality.

Stop assuming that 'boycott israel' 'boycott america' 'boycott denmark' 'boycott newzealand' (Nz papers printed the cartoon too!) is the answer to all your problems.

If boycotting products from those countrys will bring about Peace in the islamic world,..it would have happened by now.

It hasnt happened yet for a reason,and it wont ever happy for a reason.And the reason should be obvious by now.I wont point it out,i'll let some of you use your brains and think about this one,since allah s.w.t gave us brains for a reason.Dont listen to every word your local 'import' imam has to say,"hate amrika!" "notty people,they be bad to us aye!",half the time these 'import' imams have as much knowledge about islam as an athiest street sweeper.
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extinction
05-05-2006, 07:23 AM
During the time of prophets whoever was associated with the mischievious people were punished wether they were mischivious or not.
Please tell me when this happened as I dont know about this and this statement is news to my ears.......
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Muslim Soldier
05-05-2006, 11:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
Even the Women and the Children?Young and the Old?
Could you provide reference for that please akhi?
Shukran.
format_quote Originally Posted by hafizmo
Please tell me when this happened as I dont know about this and this statement is news to my ears.......
I had read someting different earlier but didn't get it.
This is what I found

format_quote Originally Posted by Commentary
Koranic commentary tells the story of how Allah made great schools of fish appear on Saturday and disappear before nightfall, to test the Jews' faith and obedience to His commandments. This was too much to bear for the Jews, and they found ways of getting around the divine prohibition against fishing on Saturday. Ibn Abbas, a cousin of the Prophet Muhammad and one of the first Koran commentators, wrote that one Jew secretly caught a fish on Saturday, tied it with a string, and threw it back into the water after tying the string to a stake in the ground. The next day, he pulled the fish in and ate it. When he saw that he was not punished, he repeated his actions on the following Saturday, and on the Saturday after that. Eventually, the neighbors noticed the smell of the fish from his cooking, and began following his example. For a long time they ate in secret, and Allah did not hasten to punish them, but when they began to fish openly and sell their prohibited catches in the markets, they were punished.

Al-Tabari mentions another tactic used by Jews to circumvent the prohibition. One Jew who craved fish dug a pit with a channel leading from it to the sea. On Saturday, he opened the channel so the waves would wash the fish into the pit. On Sunday, the man cooked the fish. The aroma of the cooking fish reached the neighbors, who followed his example, and it soon became common for the Jews to eat fish caught on Saturday. When the sages warned them, they claimed they were fishing on Sunday, when they removed the fish from the pit, and not on Saturday, when they opened the channel.[31]

Not all the Jews acted in the same way. The Koran commentators identify three groups in this context: some of the Jews sinned and violated the divine precept not to fish on Saturday; some warned the sinners of Allah's punishment and forbade them from continuing to do so. The others held their tongues; although they did not eat the fish that the sinners caught on Saturday, they also did not forbid the sinners from sinning.[32]

In such a situation, when the sinners refused to stop sinning, those who followed the divine precept decided that they were unwilling to live in the same village with the sinners and built a wall between them. One day, the sinners were not seen leaving their gate. Those who observed the divine precept climbed the wall and went to check the houses, and found them locked. When they opened the doors, they found that everyone – men, women, and children – were turned into apes. "They locked their houses at night, when people lock themselves in, and awoke as apes."[33] The 13th century Andalusian Koran commentator, Al-Qurtubi,[34] said that the apes identified their human relatives, approached them, smelled their clothes and cried. The humans, in contrast, could not identify their relatives, but told them: "'Didn't we forbid you [from violating the word of God]?' The apes nodded their heads in assent." According to some commentators, the young people of the village became apes while the elderly became pigs.[35]
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SirZubair
05-05-2006, 12:19 PM
All that proved is that the Guilty are to be punished,by ALLAH s.w.t

So my statement still stands correct - collective guilt is not right.
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MusLiM 4 LiFe
05-05-2006, 07:03 PM
why cudnt muslims protest peacefulli lyk da muslims in Trafalgar Square? no wonder people say that islam is a terrorist religion, violent etc.. what was the need of our brothaz (some sisters???) 2 burn dwn embassies? to kill thousands of innocents.. they think Allah will be proud of them but lil do they know that killin innocents/civilians is against Allahs wishes/command.. SubahnAllah, Allah help these people..
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SirZubair
05-05-2006, 08:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by MusLiM 4 LiFe
to kill thousands of innocents.. they think Allah will be proud of them but lil do they know that killin innocents/civilians is against Allahs wishes/command.. SubahnAllah, Allah help these people..

Sister,i can think of two reasons for why they that happens.

1 ) they have weak minds , and weak iman.

2 ) i blame the 'import imams' who dont know how to translate thq Quran properly but go ahead and do it anyway!and people listen to EACH and EVERY word they say and act upon it !

I'll give you an example,i know an 'import imam' who made an announcement at the mosque that "its ij (is) ok to kill dags (dogs),in time of prophet muhammed,they kelled (killed) dags (dogs),but dant (dont) kell (kill) dags (dogs) here in newjeeland (new zealand),because you will go to gel (jail),but yesh (yes),it ij (is) out rephonchibility (responsibility) to kell (kill) ebery (every) dag (dog) we come across"

What he announced was PARTLY TRUE.

They did kill BLACKS DOGS at that time and age.

Why?

There was ONE black dog,which was carrying rabies,freely roaming around town biting people and other animals.And since there were DOZENS and DOZENS of black dogs around,they decided to kill all the black dogs since they couldnt tell the difference between one black dog and another black dog !

I wonder how many muslims around the world have killed dogs,or passed the messages of Imams like these Onto other innocent brothers and sisters the poisoned their minds.

Wa'salaam.
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Islamic_Always
05-16-2006, 11:42 AM
A statement on the continuity of boycott of the Danish companies



In The Name Of Allaah The Most Merciful And Ever Merciful




All perfect praise is due to Allaah; may Allaah exalt the mention of Prophet Muhammad, his companions and those who follow in his footsteps.




To proceed:




Many voices have sounded the request for stopping the influential boycott against the Danish companies, which was initiated as a consequence of the recent publication of the caricatures that ridiculed the Prophet, sallallaahu'alayhi wa sallam, (may Allaah exalt his mention), and as a result of the reaction of the Danish government towards these caricatures.




In response to this request, some big names from among the Muslim businessmen (may Allaah guide them all) have indeed stopped their boycott. On the one hand, this saddened those Muslims who rose in defense of the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, using the weapon of boycott (to the Danish products). On the other hand, this gratified the Danish companies and those who sympathized with and supported them. All this has taken place while the Danish government still insists that there will be no change in their stance or reaction towards the event, reflecting a high level of indifference.




Therefore, we advise all Muslims, especially businessmen and companies, to continue their boycott because it is a very powerful weapon which has proved that it can prevent the aggressors from further aggression, and has made the country of Denmark an example that deters many other countries (from repeating the Danish mistake), in addition to uniting the Muslims on a large scale.




We also advise our brothers who called for lifting of the boycott against the Danish companies to reconsider their statement.




We ask Allaah to guide us all to that which He loves and is pleased with.








Signed by:




Shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin Naasir Al-Barraak.



Shaykh 'Abdullaah bin 'Abdur-Rahmaan Al-Jibreen



Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez bin 'Abdullaah Al-Raajihi
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Ghazi
05-16-2006, 11:52 AM
Salaam

If muslims want to show their love for the prophet follow his sunna and represent him in character.
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Islamic_Always
05-16-2006, 11:56 AM
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu
Ofcause a muslim should stick to the Quran and the Sunnah! i know many muslim are against the Boycot (i am from denmark and not one of those)The new paper Jyllands posten is know in the prosses of a another BIG fitnah to tell denmark that the Hijab is not a must from the Quran.

maa salam
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Muezzin
05-16-2006, 11:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic_Always
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu
Ofcause a muslim should stick to the Quran and the Sunnah! i know many muslim are against the Boycot (i am from denmark and not one of those)The new paper Jyllands posten is know in the prosses of a another BIG fitnah to tell denmark that the Hijab is not a must from the Quran.

maa salam
Why don't we just try and get Jyllands Posten out of business? They're the ones who caused all this mess, not Nestle or Kinder or Lego.

Maybe there's even grounds for blasphemy litigation.
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beliefindeath
05-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Salam

We should remind ourselves that we're not Allah. So who are we to punish them or take revenge by boycotting them. Shouldn't we leave the punishment to Allah? Let us be patient until they get a proper punishment. Let's try to keep Islam a peaceful religion.

Wassalam
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Islamic_Always
05-17-2006, 07:37 AM
Assalaam o alikum wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakathu
Ofcause Allag subhaan wa ta ala i Al-Hakam and i dondt think eny muslim would say other wise! that dosent mean a muslim cant reackt towords whats been done to him/her/them/our Ummah.Islam is peace yes.

But enough is enough!

If other muslims say otherwise let it be so.

be salam
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