Danish paper REJECTED Jesus cartoons (yes, the SAME danish paper printing mohammed)

[hasib]

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.

The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.

In April 2003, Danish illustrator Christoffer Zieler submitted a series of unsolicited cartoons dealing with the resurrection of Christ to Jyllands-Posten.

Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."...

...But the Jyllands-Posten editor in question, Mr Kaiser, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that the case was "ridiculous to bring forward now. It has nothing to do with the Muhammad cartoons.

"In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons. That's the difference," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoonpro...703552,00.html

:w:

[Prawned]

Move to Denmark and buy a printing press. You can print what you want. You are free to reject whatever you want or print whatever you want.

Like I said in another thread, why not boycott the paper instead of boycotting companies who probably employ Muslims?

[aljawaad]

That's right i fink.

[Ghazi]

Salaam

Thank allah they left isa out of this.

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[akulion]

thats cos the danish govt stood there defending them

and when figure heads like queens come out and make absure remarks like she did - then its boycott time

[Prawned]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[akulion]

welll zzzzzzz all u like :p

but what is - is :p

[Prawned]

Are you nuts? Go to denmark. Buy a printing press. Pring whatever you want. They will not stop you. Print pictures of Jesus skull-****ing a cow in labor. They will not stop you. That is your right. Print pictures of a black man with the word "------" in the title. The government will not stop you. Print pictures of Allah with a bomb in his turban, the government willl not stop you. Print pictures of the Pope in high heels raping young boys in the ass, the government will not stop you. Everyone will think you are an idiot, they will pay no attention to you, they will think you are ignorant, but they will not stop you.

[Ghazi]

Are you nuts? Go to denmark. Buy a printing press. Pring whatever you want. They will not stop you. Print pictures of Jesus skull-****ing a cow in labor. They will not stop you. That is your right. Print pictures of a black man with the word "------" in the title. The government will not stop you. Print pictures of Allah with a bomb in his turban, the government willl not stop you. Print pictures of the Pope in high heels raping young boys in the ass, the government will not stop you. Everyone will think you are an idiot, they will pay no attention to you, they will think you are ignorant, but they will not stop you.

Salaam
no muslims would print any images of jesus, and you've just listed our argument freedom of speech is used by people who wanna spread hate.

[north_malaysian]

Jyllands readers should be relieved that Muslims would never offended with Jesus drawings. ... thus dont provoke them. Duhhhh.... Hypocrites! Those Christians would never fit in their feets in Muslim shoes.

[TSpot]

thats cos the danish govt stood there defending them

Get your facts straight. The Danish Government did not defend the publication of the cartoons. Rather, it defended freedom of the press, a necessary requirement of a democratic nation. The government can not and should not get involved with such publications.

[TSpot]

Salaam
no muslims would print any images of jesus, and you've just listed our argument freedom of speech is used by people who wanna spread hate.

Unfortunately, it is often used in this way. But freedom of speech does not cause the spreading of hate any more than lack of free speech stops it. On whole, government controlled press spreads more hate than free press because alternative, free expressions are allowed.

[sonz]

Gwladys Fouché
Monday February 6, 2006


Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.


The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny. In April 2003, Danish illustrator Christoffer Zieler submitted a series of unsolicited cartoons dealing with the resurrection of Christ to Jyllands-Posten.

Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."


The illustrator said: "I see the cartoons as an innocent joke, of the type that my Christian grandfather would enjoy."

"I showed them to a few pastors and they thought they were funny."

But the Jyllands-Posten editor in question, Mr Kaiser, said that the case was "ridiculous to bring forward now. It has nothing to do with the Muhammad cartoons.

"In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons. That's the difference," he said.

"The illustrator thought his cartoons were funny. I did not think so. It would offend some readers, not much but some."

The decision smacks of "double-standards", said Ahmed Akkari, spokesman for the Danish-based European Committee for Prophet Honouring, the umbrella group that represents 27 Muslim organisations that are campaigning for a full apology from Jyllands-Posten.

"How can Jyllands-Posten distinguish the two cases? Surely they must understand," Mr Akkari added.

Meanwhile, the editor of a Malaysian newspaper resigned over the weekend after printing one of the Muhammad cartoons that have unleashed a storm of protest across the Islamic world.

Malaysia's Sunday Tribune, based in the remote state of Sarawak, on Borneo island, ran one of the Danish cartoons on Saturday. It is unclear which one of the 12 drawings was reprinted.

Printed on page 12 of the paper, the cartoon illustrated an article about the lack of impact of the controversy in Malaysia, a country with a majority Muslim population.
The newspaper apologised and expressed "profound regret over the unauthorised publication", in a front page statement on Sunday.

"Our internal inquiry revealed that the editor on duty, who was responsible for the same publication, had done it all alone by himself without authority in compliance with the prescribed procedures as required for such news," the statement said.

The editor, who has not been named, regretted his mistake, apologised and tendered his resignation, according to the statement.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...703501,00.html

[Ghazi]

Salaam

Thank allah that they left 'Isa' alone

[*Hana*]

Get your facts straight. The Danish Government did not defend the publication of the cartoons. Rather, it defended freedom of the press, a necessary requirement of a democratic nation. The government can not and should not get involved with such publications.

You might want to get your facts straight TSpot. Freedom of speech or Freedom of the Press does NOT give someone the right to slander, abuse, lie, spew or promote hate. THAT, my friend is ILLEGAL in a "democratic" society. Why do you think tabloids and newspapers are sued all the time? Why do you think people sue other people and win? The government choosing NOT to do something about it is the same as defending it. They are already looking to charge one of their members of paraliament for comments made about Muslims.....why is it slanderous for her, but not for the paper? Ahhhhh, democracy at work. :)

Use your head, man. They offended 2.1 Billion people in the world. This is not just a case of ignorance or stupidity. It was to serve ONE purpose....to promote hate.....an illegal act!

Hana

[TSpot]

You might want to get your facts straight TSpot. Freedom of speech or Freedom of the Press does NOT give someone the right to slander, abuse, lie, spew or promote hate. THAT, my friend is ILLEGAL in a "democratic" society. Why do you think tabloids and newspapers are sued all the time? Why do you think people sue other people and win? The government choosing NOT to do something about it is the same as defending it. They are already looking to charge one of their members of paraliament for comments made about Muslims.....why is it slanderous for her, but not for the paper? Ahhhhh, democracy at work. :)

Use your head, man. They offended 2.1 Billion people in the world. This is not just a case of ignorance or stupidity. It was to serve ONE purpose....to promote hate.....an illegal act!

Hana

Unless you are omniscient you do have no idea why it was done. Nor do I.

Slander is a tort in most countries--a civil wrong, not a legal wrong--is quite difficult to prove--exactly to protect the freedom of the press. They are sued all the time and mostly the defendant papers win because freedom of the press is judged so important in most free societies that they are give wide lattitude. Frankly, the press has a different standard in most free countries than you or I.

You can disparage democracy all you want. I prefer to live in a free society and put up with the distasteful side effects rather than the totalitarian society.

[*Hana*]

Unless you are omniscient you do have no idea why it was done. Nor do I.

Slander is a tort in most countries--a civil wrong, not a legal wrong--is quite difficult to prove--exactly to protect the freedom of the press. They are sued all the time and mostly the defendant papers win because freedom of the press is judged so important in most free societies that they are give wide lattitude. Frankly, the press has a different standard in most free countries than you or I.

You can disparage democracy all you want. I prefer to live in a free society and put up with the distasteful side effects rather than the totalitarian society.

One doesn't need to be omniscient or a rocket scientist to know why it was done. but, you are entitled to your opinion.

And I beg to differ, in most democratic societies, it is ILLEGAL to promote hate. And, for your information, papers have been sued and lost for slanderous comments. Most papers are far more responsible than the ones that printed those pictures and most are responsible enough to not print something that can get them sued.

Freedom is all relative. What you consider freedom is not necessarily what someone else sees as freedom. For example, the USA is trying to impose THEIR idea of freedom in other countries. As you can see, the people living in that country have the right to reject it and are.

A perfect example of what you consider freedom, that most Muslims do not: A woman in the west feels free because she can walk around 1/2 naked, but when they look at a sister that chooses to cover, she is oppressed. For a Muslimah to cover is freedom for us. We have the freedom to walk down the street with our dignity intact and not have men drooling over us like we're a piece of steak in the meat market. When a western woman chooses to work outside the home, she is educated and career oriented. When a Muslimah chooses to stay home and care for her family, she is uneducated with no ambition.

So, you enjoy living in your idea of freedom, and I will enjoy mine. With my idea of freedom, we do have freedom of speech, but with that freedom comes the responsibility to speak the truth and not to slander.

I am a Canadian by birth, but a Muslimah by choice! Alhamdulillah. :)

Hana

[solid_snake]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...703501,00.html

Danish paper rejected Jesus cartoons

Gwladys Fouché
Monday February 6, 2006

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.

The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.

In April 2003, Danish illustrator Christoffer Zieler submitted a series of unsolicited cartoons dealing with the resurrection of Christ to Jyllands-Posten.

Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."

The illustrator said: "I see the cartoons as an innocent joke, of the type that my Christian grandfather would enjoy."

"I showed them to a few pastors and they thought they were funny."

But the Jyllands-Posten editor in question, Mr Kaiser, said that the case was "ridiculous to bring forward now. It has nothing to do with the Muhammad cartoons.

"In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons. That's the difference," he said.

"The illustrator thought his cartoons were funny. I did not think so. It would offend some readers, not much but some."

The decision smacks of "double-standards", said Ahmed Akkari, spokesman for the Danish-based European Committee for Prophet Honouring, the umbrella group that represents 27 Muslim organisations that are campaigning for a full apology from Jyllands-Posten.

"How can Jyllands-Posten distinguish the two cases? Surely they must understand," Mr Akkari added.

Meanwhile, the editor of a Malaysian newspaper resigned over the weekend after printing one of the Muhammad cartoons that have unleashed a storm of protest across the Islamic world.

Malaysia's Sunday Tribune, based in the remote state of Sarawak, on Borneo island, ran one of the Danish cartoons on Saturday. It is unclear which one of the 12 drawings was reprinted.

Printed on page 12 of the paper, the cartoon illustrated an article about the lack of impact of the controversy in Malaysia, a country with a majority Muslim population.

The newspaper apologised and expressed "profound regret over the unauthorised publication", in a front page statement on Sunday.

"Our internal inquiry revealed that the editor on duty, who was responsible for the same publication, had done it all alone by himself without authority in compliance with the prescribed procedures as required for such news," the statement said.

The editor, who has not been named, regretted his mistake, apologised and tendered his resignation, according to the statement.

[Sis786]

[QUOTE=solid_snake;179343]
Danish paper rejected Jesus cartoons

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.

The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny..

Unbelieveable, Do they think by insulting US Muslims that this IS funny!

Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them.".

Outcry! Did they think that this wouldnt! I cant believe it, Im not saying that Muslims are MORE devouted than the Chritians, BUT you will find that MUSLIMS no matter how young have a strong connection with thier faith! Especially in Western Countries where they see this as thier identity!
The illustrator said: "I see the cartoons as an innocent joke, of the type that my Christian grandfather would enjoy."

"I showed them to a few pastors and they thought they were funny.".

These Guys serioulsy need to invest in some good joke books!

"In the Muhammad drawings case, we asked the illustrators to do it. I did not ask for these cartoons. That's the difference," he said.

"The illustrator thought his cartoons were funny. I did not think so. It would offend some readers, not much but some.".

Yep i mean NOT like Muslims are Human and they have feelings do they!:?

The decision smacks of "double-standards", said Ahmed Akkari, spokesman for the Danish-based European Committee for Prophet Honouring, the umbrella group that represents 27 Muslim organisations that are campaigning for a full apology from Jyllands-Posten..

This DOUBLE STANDARDS have always been present! As for the Whoooole issue of FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Is that a concept ONLY excercised on Muslims!

Meanwhile, the editor of a Malaysian newspaper resigned over the weekend after printing one of the Muhammad cartoons that have unleashed a storm of protest across the Islamic world.
The newspaper apologised and expressed "profound regret over the unauthorised publication", in a front page statement on Sunday.
The editor, who has not been named, regretted his mistake, apologised and tendered his resignation, according to the statement.

Maybe the Danish publishers could learn a thing or two here.

[Bittersteel]

why not just tolerate it?yes even the doulbe standards?didn't the prophet pbuh tolerate it?

[Sis786]

why not just tolerate it?yes even the doulbe standards?didn't the prophet pbuh tolerate it?

Your right Brother, But i suppose in my case i would say that IF you dont speak out and im not talking about violence! If you remain silent the Media and people have a tendancy to SILENT you! My meaning is that if we DONT speak up now about these Cartoons it could get worse! as in more pictures more insults and if you speak THEN, your point wont have the same effect! Muslims should also EXERCISE thier freedom of speech!

I agree that some of the Demonstrations have GONE too far BUT im proud that all the Muslims aound the world WHO were effected by this did come out and show thier feelings and opinions!

[fredbear]

Cant you just be happy that Egyptian newspapers publish anti-semitic cartoons with some regularity?

[Laaibah]

I'm just so speechless :embarrass :-\

I just don't understand why did denmark came up with such a stupid idea to print such cartoons....when we muslims didn't DISrepect their religion