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kadafi
04-09-2005, 05:54 PM
By Shahid Bin Waheed




Thanks to be Allaah, Sustainer of the Universe, and blessing and salutation to be the most distinguish of the Messengers and foremost among the Prophets, our Prophet Muhammad,peace and blessings of Allaah be on him and on his wives, children and Companions.




We read in the Glorious Qur’aan Ayaat 2:137-138,


فَإِنْ آمَنُواْ بِمِثْلِ مَا آمَنتُم بِهِ فَقَدِ اهْتَدَواْ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوْاْ فَإِنَّمَا هُمْ فِي شِقَاقٍ فَسَيَكْفِيكَهُمُ اللّهُ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ


صِبْغَةَ اللّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللّهِ صِبْغَةً وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدونَ

So if they believe in the like of that, which you believe, then they are rightly guided, but if they turn away, then they are only in opposition. So Allah will suffice you against them. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower. (Our Sibghah (religion) is) the Sibghah (Religion) of Allah (Islam) and which Sibghah (religion) can be better than Allah’s? And we are His worshippers. (Tafsir Ibn Katheer.)

From the beginning of the Surah al-Baqarah different Ayaat have explained the nature of Imaan. Ayaah 2:137 define the Imaan in a simple and shot phrase, which is at the same time so comprehensive that all possible details and explanations are inherent in it.

The Ayaah 2:138 delineate Islaam as the “coloring of Allaah”, and explain this coloring as the unalloyed worship of Allaah and total submission to Him. Earlier Ayaah 2:135 have identified Islam with “the religion of Ibraheem.” Thus, if we put Ayaat 2:135 and 2:138 together, it becomes clear that essentially Islaam is the religion of Allaah. And that the association of a religion with the name of a Prophet is merely a symbol.

The Ayaat 2:138 presents religion as “coloring” Sibghah صِبْغِ the expression carries within itself several levels of meaning. But the immediate allusion is to a certain Christian ceremony i.e. the Baptism. Let us examine the Ayaah 2:138,


Surah Al-Baqarah 138


صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِصِبْغَةً وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدُونَ

(Our Sibghah (religion) is) the Sibghah (Religion) of Allâh (Islâm) and which Sibghah(religion) can be better than Allâh’s? And we are His worshippers. (Tafsir Ibn Kathîr)

The words used in Ayaat 23:20 and 2:138 have been derived from the root (radical) letters cited below.


Sabaghaص ب غ


صِبْغ : ما يُؤتَدَمُ به .


صِبْغِ : تَنْبُتُ بِالدُّهْنِ وَصِبْغٍ لِلْآكِلِينَ. 23:20 seasoning (noun)


صِبْغَةً : صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً. 2:138


صِبْغَةَ الله : شريعته .


صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ : صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً. 2:138

The word “Sibghatun” means dye, color, hue (n). Thus, the words derived from the root letters means: to dye, color, baptize, dipp, immerse, hue, assume the attribute, mode, mature, code of law, religion.

In the Ayaah 138 of Surah Al-Baqaraah of Glorious Qur’aan the attributes of Allaah and His Code of Law is called Allaah’s Sibghah. The word صِبْغَةَ has been adopted in this Ayaah (verse) as a hint to Christians that the “baptism” of water does not effect any change in person. It is Tahkalluq bi Akhlaq Allaahthat is the adoption of Allaah’s (God’s) attributes and broad principles of faith bring out the real change in the mind and character. It is through this “baptism” that the new birth takes place. According to the Arabic usage sometimes when it is intended strongly to induce a person to do a certain thing the verb is omitted, as in Glorious Qur’aan 2:138, and only the object is mentioned. Therefore, in the translation of that Ayaah (verse) one must add such verb as Khudhu i.e. assume, or adapt.

In conclusion, if the Christians really want the salvation and want to be baptized, than they must accept Islaam with their heart and souls.

Abdullah_Afghan
04-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Salaam brother in Islam

Yes. Repenting sincerly is the baptism in Islam.

Uthman
04-09-2005, 10:03 PM
:sl:

Alhamdulillah. :)

:w:

Dave...
09-17-2010, 01:55 PM
By Shahid Bin Waheed






Thanks to be Allaah, Sustainer of the Universe, and blessing and salutation to be the most distinguish of the Messengers and foremost among the Prophets, our Prophet Muhammad,peace and blessings of Allaah be on him and on his wives, children and Companions.




We read in the Glorious Qur’aan Ayaat 2:137-138,



فَإِنْ آمَنُواْ بِمِثْلِ مَا آمَنتُم بِهِ فَقَدِ اهْتَدَواْ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوْاْ فَإِنَّمَا هُمْ فِي شِقَاقٍ فَسَيَكْفِيكَهُمُ اللّهُ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ




صِبْغَةَ اللّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللّهِ صِبْغَةً وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدونَ


So if they believe in the like of that, which you believe, then they are rightly guided, but if they turn away, then they are only in opposition. So Allah will suffice you against them. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower. (Our Sibghah (religion) is) the Sibghah (Religion) of Allah (Islam) and which Sibghah (religion) can be better than Allah’s? And we are His worshippers. (Tafsir Ibn Katheer.)

From the beginning of the Surah al-Baqarah different Ayaat have explained the nature of Imaan. Ayaah 2:137 define the Imaan in a simple and shot phrase, which is at the same time so comprehensive that all possible details and explanations are inherent in it.

The Ayaah 2:138 delineate Islaam as the “coloring of Allaah”, and explain this coloring as the unalloyed worship of Allaah and total submission to Him. Earlier Ayaah 2:135 have identified Islam with “the religion of Ibraheem.” Thus, if we put Ayaat 2:135 and 2:138 together, it becomes clear that essentially Islaam is the religion of Allaah. And that the association of a religion with the name of a Prophet is merely a symbol.

The Ayaat 2:138 presents religion as “coloring” Sibghah صِبْغِ the expression carries within itself several levels of meaning. But the immediate allusion is to a certain Christian ceremony i.e. the Baptism. Let us examine the Ayaah 2:138,



Surah Al-Baqarah 138




صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِصِبْغَةً وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدُونَ


(Our Sibghah (religion) is) the Sibghah (Religion) of Allâh (Islâm) and which Sibghah(religion) can be better than Allâh’s? And we are His worshippers. (Tafsir Ibn Kathîr)

The words used in Ayaat 23:20 and 2:138 have been derived from the root (radical) letters cited below.



Sabaghaص ب غ




صِبْغ : ما يُؤتَدَمُ به .




صِبْغِ : تَنْبُتُ بِالدُّهْنِ وَصِبْغٍ لِلْآكِلِينَ. 23:20 seasoning (noun)




صِبْغَةً : صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً. 2:138




صِبْغَةَ الله : شريعته .




صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ : صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً. 2:138


The word “Sibghatun” means dye, color, hue (n). Thus, the words derived from the root letters means: to dye, color, baptize, dipp, immerse, hue, assume the attribute, mode, mature, code of law, religion.

In the Ayaah 138 of Surah Al-Baqaraah of Glorious Qur’aan the attributes of Allaah and His Code of Law is called Allaah’s Sibghah. The word صِبْغَةَ has been adopted in this Ayaah (verse) as a hint to Christians that the “baptism” of water does not effect any change in person. It is Tahkalluq bi Akhlaq Allaahthat is the adoption of Allaah’s (God’s) attributes and broad principles of faith bring out the real change in the mind and character. It is through this “baptism” that the new birth takes place. According to the Arabic usage sometimes when it is intended strongly to induce a person to do a certain thing the verb is omitted, as in Glorious Qur’aan 2:138, and only the object is mentioned. Therefore, in the translation of that Ayaah (verse) one must add such verb as Khudhu i.e. assume, or adapt.

In conclusion, if the Christians really want the salvation and want to be baptized, than they must accept Islaam with their heart and souls.

In Islam, what are you being baptised into? One cannot be baptised into an idea, or a system of teaching. What is the agent of that baptism?

Here is some of what the bible teaches.

Romans 6:3-11

"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. For he who has died has been freed from sin. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord."


When we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit as a result of our initial faith, that IS the baptism with the Holy Spirit. This is how we are 'placed into' the Body of Christ. This is how we are 'immersed' into spiritual union with Christ Jesus. This is not initiated by water baptism, but by faith. Water baptism teaches, it is outwardly symbolic of what has happened inwardly. It was meant to be a teaching tool, along with a public profession of/identification with Christ Jesus.

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:13

The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the baptism with the Holy Spirit. A spiritual baptism by Jesus (Matthew 3:10-12, John 1:33-34, Acts 1:5), with the agent of that baptism being the Holy Spirit. That's what places us into the Body of Christ, that is, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Born again...Romans 6:3-11; Col. 2:10-4; 1 Peter 3:21; Galatians 3:2,26-29; -- "raised us up together" Ephesians 2:1-10 -- "through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead" 1 Peter 1:3-5 etc...

I'll start with 1 Peter 3:21...

"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him."

1 Peter 1:3-5 says...

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Galatians 3:26-29...

For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 2:10, 11-14

and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

One must be "in Christ" to be born again.

"But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:6

We, are made to sit together with Him in the heavenly places [because we are] in Christ Jesus. This is speaking of our [legal] position in Christ which is a result of our being raised up together with Him, born again. We become "the righteousness of God" in Him, that is, in Christ Jesus.

The agent of that baptism is the Holy Spirit who is the Comforter.

So the question is, in Islam, who or what are you being baptised into?

Dave

Dave...
09-18-2010, 08:52 PM
Ezekiel 36:22-27 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the LORD,” says the Lord GOD, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.



John 3:1-5 "There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

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