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Hana_Aku
No one can prove or disprove the existance of God. Science has never been able to do it. So when you take what we believe, beliefs stretching back as far as man existed, that there is ONE, and if this ONE knows everything, the probability that HE created it, is much more convincing.
No one has been able to prove His existence. No one has been able to disprove His existence. We are agreed on that. Perhaps one day scientists will. In the meantime it is probably a good idea for scientists to assume that God has left no traces, no signs, no "fingerprints" and work on that basis.
Except I do not accept that is what Mankind has always believed since the earliest days. Monotheism is fairly recent and for most of human existence people seem to have got by fine without it. It is only recently that even a majority of humans became monotheists.
So, I ask you, what is that probability that it is the right distance for us, right now???
Well I was born in a much warmer climate so I have to say - not close enough!!!!
But precisely one. We wouldn't be here otherwise.
Not only I, but as I said, from the beginning of man, there has always been the belief in a higher power. Aboriginal tribes that had NO contact with outside sources believe in ONE creator, for an example. Who influenced them?
I do not accept that Aboriginal tribes do believe in any such thing. And of course the Europeans and probably missionaries who contacted them.
If we were arguing about what is "natural" for humans to believe, I would argue that most humans have been polytheists through-out history. It seems to suit humans very well - so much so that monotheists will tend to "poly" if left alone. The Muslim world, until recently, was covered in shrines and Sufi retreats and the like. All clearly speaking to some deep need in Muslims even though they are forbidden to do this.
Where did this idea originate?
Somewhere in Palestine I hear.
You think all people, all over the world came up with the same idea at the same time? Even before man knew of all the other continents?
Absolutely not. Because they did not. Noone has ever come up with the idea of monotheism without meeting people who met Jews.
In the end, you are partially correct in that because His existance cannot be absolutely proven, I have faith and believe it does.
I am not interested in interfering with your beliefs. If you have faith I feel happy for you and would support you in your beliefs. But I am optimistic, I think one day humans will be able to prove or disprove the existence of God. It is all a matter of asking the right questions and performing the right experiments. If only I knew what they were.