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Dore
01-04-2005, 03:53 PM
Salamu Aleikum

I got the following email forwarded by someone. Pretty interesting so I decided to share it with you guys. Its been circulating on several forums I noticed. Nevertheless interesting to discuss.
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Please read, very interesting article.

The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course toward the eastern direction in the few past weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east and the west..and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction..

Then in the months of August and September...Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!!

And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called "Retrograde Motion" Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them. Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!!


This might occur soon and we are unaware!




The rise of the sun from the west is mentioned in the hadith and this is the major sign of the day of judgment, most if not All, the minor signs have occured. Wake up.

Our beloved messenger Mohamed (Peace Be Upon Him) said: "One of the signs of the hour..the sun will rise from the west, where no longer tauba (forgiveness) will be granted" !!

And the strange thing..most of our Shariah scholars mentioned that the rise of the sun from the west occurs only once..on that day..the sun will rise from the west..then again from the east..and continues until Allah wishes..and this is similar to what is happening to Mars..it stops, then it changes its course of direction for a short period of time..then returns to way once it was.

And Abdullah Bin Amro (R.A.) said: (I memorized from the messenger (SAW) a hadith I will never forget..I heard the messenger of Allah (SAW) say: The first aya to come the rise of the sun from the west) [Ahmad]

And the messenger SAW "Allah (SWT) places HIS hand at night to forgive his morning sinners, and places in the morning to forgive his night sinners until the sun rises from the west" [Muslim]

This piece of news is very important as it brings with it a great sign of warning and remembrance of the coming of a new WORLD - the world of the Hereafter And it is also good material for calling others to ALLAH s.w.t. -
whether for muslims, the unwary of us or the kufar. When we show this hadith that was told 1400 years ago about this miracle..you will see InshaALLAH, a lot will enter this beautiful religion...And the muslims if they see this phenomena happening in Mars..who knows maybe it would bring them closer to our CREATOR.

May Allah (swt) keep all of us in the Right path and provide us with success in this world as well as in the hereafter.

Please pass it on...
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root
01-04-2005, 05:13 PM
You would need to consider!

Even if the planet (Mars) really was moving backward, and even if the earth began to move in the opposite direction in its orbit around the sun, it would not affect the sun rise being from the east. That is affected by the rotation of the earth on it axis. Your e-mail does not address that.
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kadafi
01-04-2005, 05:15 PM
:sl:

Unfortunaley, this is a just a old rumour -- a inaccurate rumour.

The phenomenon affects the planet's revolution, not the rotation.
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Uthman
01-08-2005, 09:52 PM
We get a lot of those nowadays, no?
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Helena
01-05-2006, 09:45 AM
:sl:

Inshalah hope veryone reads this!! Can anyone else give anymore evidence on the qiyamah!!

Sun Will Rise From The West One Day..!!! (Scientific Proof)
As the strong belief of we muslims is that when the
sun will rise from west
rather than east, that time will be the biggestidentity of The Day Of
Judgement (Qayamah). And the door of Forgiveness will
be closed on that day.



The science of astronomy states that the speed of
planet Mars has
been
decreasing in its course towards the eastern
direction in the few past
weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the
east and the west..and
on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement
stopped going toward the
eastern direction..!!!

Then in the months of August and September...Mars
changed its course in the
opposite direction to the West- and that until the
end of
September..which means the sun will rise now from the
west
on Mars!!

And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement
called "Retrograde
Motion" Most scientist state that all the planets
will go through the same
once at least and our planet Earth is one of
them.

Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some
day and the sun will
rise from the west!!

This might occur soon and we are unaware when it'll
happen.

Our beloved messenger Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe
Wa'alahi Wasallam said:
”One of the signs of the hour..the sun will rise from
the west, where no
longer tauba (forgiveness) will be granted" !!

And the strange thing..most of our Shariah scholars
mentioned that the rise
of the sun from the west occurs only once..on that
day..the sun will rise
from the west..then again from the east..and
continues until Allah
wishes..and this is similar to what is happening to
Mars..it stops, then
it
changes its course of direction for a short period of
time..then returns to
way once it was.

Abu Hurayra(R.A.) narrated..that the Messenger of
Allah Subahna'uwaTa'ala
said :" The day of the hour will not come until the
sun rises from the
west, if it rises and the people saw it they will all
believe, when a time
where nothing will be accepted anymore of believe the
truth" [Abu
Bukhari,Muslim]

From Abu Hurayra (R.A.) that the Hazrat Mohammad
Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi
Wasllam said: "Start with the six actions(he
mentioned) the sun rising from
the west[Muslim]

And Abdullah Bin Amro (R.A.) said: "I memorized from
the Messenger
Sallallahu
Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam a hadith I will
never forget..I heard
the messenger of Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala
say: The first aya to come the rise of the sun from
the west[Ahmad]

And the Messenger Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam
said: "Allah Subhanau
WaTa'ala places His hand at night to forgive his
morning sinners, and
places in the morning to forgive his night sinners
until the sun rises from
the west" [Muslim]

This piece of news is very important as it brings
with it a great sign of
warning and remembrance of the coming of a new WORLD
the world of the
Hereafter And it is also good material for calling
others to ALLAH Subhana'uwaTa'ala.

:w:
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Ghazi
01-05-2006, 09:55 AM
Salaam

Nice post sis, lets all repent before that fateful day.
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Mu'maneen
01-08-2006, 02:38 AM
:sl:

Jazak Allah Kher Fe Dunya Wal Akhira Dear Sister of Islam for the wonderful information.


---------------------

Visit my new Islamic Site:
http://hstrial-besmail.homestead.com/islam.html
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Ummu Amatullah
01-08-2006, 06:35 PM
Asallama Alaikum sister well It's not entirely bad,because the Islamic Caliphah will return,Islam will spread throughout the world,and Islam will reach every household one way or another.Rome will be conquered,and there will be a strong,powerful,productive Islamic rule for 7-9 years.Even though it's short,but let's remember Abu Bakr As-Sadiqq's Caliphate which was about 2 years and a few months,but besides the span of the Caliphate it was successful both in Government and trade.So Alhamdullilah imagine 7-9 years.Even though Dajjaal wil unfortunely come within that time,but hey as long as we get the Islamic Caliphah back and on track.:happy: :happy:
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ummAbdillah
01-08-2006, 06:41 PM
:sl:
jazakallah khair
i think that judgement is very near
allahu a'laam
:nervous:

may allah save us from his punishment
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Qurratul Ayn
01-09-2006, 01:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
lets all repent before that fateful day.
Aslamu Alaikum

Well said Brother and it is true all Muslims should seek forgiveness and pray to Allah Ta'ala.

In my opinion the Day of Judgement is near.

Asslamu Alaikum
Shakirah
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Khaldun
01-09-2006, 01:20 PM
:sl:

Threads merged

Please use the "Search" facility avalaible before posting any threads JazzakAllah khair :brother:
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Ummu Amatullah
02-05-2006, 02:38 AM
Sun Will Rise From The West One Day..!!!

(Scientific Proof)



As the strong belief of we muslims is that when the sun will rise from west rather than east, that time will be the biggest identity of The Day Of Judgement (Qayamah). And the door of Forgiveness will be closed on that day.

The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course towards the eastern direction in the few past weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east and the west..and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction..!!!

Then in the months of August and September...Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!!

And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called "Retrograde Motion" Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them.

Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!!

This might occur soon and we are unaware when it'll happen.

Our beloved messenger Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam said: "One of the signs of the hour..the sun will rise from the west, where no longer tauba (forgiveness) will be granted" !!

And the strange thing..most of our Shariah scholars mentioned that the rise of the sun from the west occurs only once..on that day..the sun will rise from the west..then again from the east..and continues until Allah wishes..and this is similar to what is happening to Mars..it stops, then it changes its course of direction for a short period of time..then returns to way once it was.

Abu Hurayra(R.A.) narrated..that the Messenger of Allah Subahna'uwaTa'ala said :" The day of the hour will not come until the sun rises from the west, if it rises and the people saw it they will all believe, when a time where nothing will be accepted anymore of believe the truth" [Abu Bukhari,Muslim]

From Abu Hurayra (R.A.) that the Hazrat Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasllam said: "Start with the six actions(he mentioned) the sun rising from the west[Muslim]

And Abdullah Bin Amro (R.A.) said: "I memorized from the Messenger Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam a hadith I will never forget..I heard the messenger of Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala say:

The first aya to come the rise of the sun from the west[Ahmad]

And the Messenger Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam said: "Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala places His hand at night to forgive his morning sinners, and places in the morning to forgive his night sinners until the sun rises from the west" [Muslim]

This piece of news is very important as it brings with it a great sign of warning and remembrance of the coming of a new WORLD - the world of the Hereafter And it is also good material for calling others to ALLAH Subhana'uwaTa'ala.

Whether for muslims, the unwary of us or the kufar. When we show this hadith that was told 1400 years ago about this miracle you will see !!!!

InshaALLAH, a lot will enter this beautiful religion...And the muslims if they see this phenomena happening in Mars..who knows maybe it would bring them closer to our CREATOR.

May Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala keep all of us in the Right path and provide us with success in this world as well as in the hereafter.
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mahdisoldier19
02-05-2006, 02:40 AM
Salam Alaikam

Mashallah but doesnt that happen around 2012? IDK just read somethinon it. I know alot about 2012 this dimensional coiexistance end of mayan calender. Nonetheless ya know just what you guys think or girls brothers and sisters alike :)
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Malaikah
02-05-2006, 05:09 AM
salam
can you give a link for that please? thanks
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Ghazi
02-05-2006, 11:29 AM
Salaam

Great post sis, Lets all repent before the events of that day come to past.
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Umar001
02-06-2006, 09:00 AM
Whao, cool, I read about this before but I didnt know if it was real, thank you

peace be upon yall
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Far7an
02-06-2006, 09:10 AM
:sl:

I received this in an email too, how authentic is it? Does anyone know?
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Ahmad ibn Saleh
02-06-2006, 09:14 AM
Assalamu 'Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi

Great Post... Can you please give me a link or some informstion of where you got this from?

Jazak Allah
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Umar001
02-06-2006, 11:53 AM
yea cos if this is true, its major da'wa material, well I mean of course its true, but if scientist have documented it
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Khaldun
02-06-2006, 03:08 PM
:sl:

Unfortunatly this is an old rumour, please see http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...rise-west.html
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HeiGou
02-06-2006, 05:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Shukri
Sun Will Rise From The West One Day..!!!

(Scientific Proof)

The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course towards the eastern direction in the few past weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east and the west..and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction..!!!
Eastern direction relative to what? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this saying that Mars, which moves in a different orbit to the Earth, is changing its apparent motion relative to the Earth? Mars goes around the Sun in an eliptical orbit and so does the Earth. But Mars moves at a different speed to the Earth. Both are also rotating. Isn't this arguing that Mars, as seen from Earth, now appears to be moving backwards? Which is different from Mars having stopped and rotated the other way.

Then in the months of August and September...Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun will rise now from the west on Mars!!
Umm, no it does not. If I have understood this post correctly, it is saying that as seen from Earth, Mars appears to rise in the West. Mars has not changed at all, but the different relative orbits of the two planets has created an appearance that Mars is doing something odd. However on the planet Mars itself, nothing has changed (except presumably Earth rises in a funny place too). Mars is still rotating as it always did. Which means the Sun is rising on Mars exactly where it always did.

Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!!

This might occur soon and we are unaware when it'll happen.
If it was going to happen atany time we would know when. The Earth spins like a top. It is easy to calculate that speed and work out if it is slowing down or not (and it is, just not by very much). But you are missing the basic science here - the place the Sun rises is not determined by the Earth's apparent motion relative to the other planets, but by its orbit. As long as it spins like a top the Sun, which does not move relative to the Earth, will always appear in the right place. It would literally take a supernatural act (or what the religious would call a miracle) for that not to happen.
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TSpot
02-07-2006, 01:28 PM
This is not true. Mars will not reverse its orbit. It's movement in the heavens, relative to Earth, will appear to reverse, similar to two cars moving at the same speed and one slowing. Just an optical illusion viewed from Earth.

http://www.space.com/spacewatch/0509...etrograde.html
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lolwatever
02-10-2006, 10:59 AM
salam all
um i dont think the retrogade information bro shukri supplied is relevent to the sun rising from the west... TSpot's explanation is correct.

i did hear something about the earth's magnetic field 'flipping' every couple thousand years, and this having to do with the sun appearing to rise from the opposite position. does anyone hav any info on this with proper xplanation? just out of curiosity..

i also read this.. http://www.animal-cruelty.com/hot_gas.htm if u go to the section on 'cosmic crunch'

salam
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Halima
02-10-2006, 02:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19
Salam Alaikam

Mashallah but doesnt that happen around 2012? IDK just read somethinon it. I know alot about 2012 this dimensional coiexistance end of mayan calender. Nonetheless ya know just what you guys think or girls brothers and sisters alike :)

2012 is 'supposedly' the end of the world. The Mayan calendar has ended on this year because they supposedly think that 2012 marks the end of the world.


As for the sun rising in the west- won't this happen at the 'last hour' I've heard of this somewhere before. I'm trying to find it presently at the moment.
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Snowflake
02-10-2006, 07:29 PM
I found this article quiet interesting and explanatory.


Author: Patrick Geryl

Why the North Becomes South
Years ago I started my quest, intending to discover why pole shifts take place. I found answers that put my imaginative powers heavily to the test. But through my persistent search, I found evidences for it, telling of a highly advanced civilization that was exposed to three catastrophes. Each time, the movement of the earth’s axis was severely disrupted and the whole earth was subjected to a gigantic cataclysm.

From this we can state the following: The graph of human evolution does not appear as a straight line. Towards the end it draws steeply upwards, but after every disaster it slips tremendously quickly downwards. Priests and scientists knew this, and intertwined their knowledge with religion in order to make everybody fully aware of it. But with the passage of time, the knowledge was lost. Fourteen thousand years ago the priests knew how to decipher the secrets of polar reversals.

At present nothing is left of it, and there isn’t a single scientist now in possession of this knowledge; a catastrophic downfall in the pre-primeval age. Hopefully as many people as possible will hear my echo before it is too late. Or will they neglect the messages from our distant past?

The following text shows that in antiquity people were notified about the forthcoming end via The Book of Enoch: "Behold, destruction is coming, a great flood and it will destroy all living things." A great many codes hide in this short sentence, and they are relative to the forthcoming destruction. Scientific knowledge having been interwoven with religion.

The Magnetic Field of the Earth Compared with that of a Dynamo
Everybody knows that the dynamo of a bicycle creates a magnetic field, and therefore electricity. As long as you keep cycling, the inner magnets keep turning around and electric power is generated. The earth has a somewhat similar, though more complicated, principle. Just like the bicycle dynamo, the magnetic field is generated in the earth’s core, because the liquid upper layer rotates with a different speed in relation to the earth’s core. There, the mechanical energy is transformed into magnetic energy, resulting in a North Pole and a South Pole.

Should you want to change the poles of a dynamo, you would have to change its direction of rotation! Expanding this principle, the earth also has to change its direction when the North Pole becomes the South Pole! So here we find a scientific proof for polar reversals. It correlates completely with the statement of the Old Egyptians on this subject: after every pole reversal the sun rose from the opposite direction.

West Became East
Because the earth’s axis turns anti-clockwise, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. These are the plain facts. But, was it always like this? Is this a constant law? When you look at Pluto, you see it rotating from the east to the west, so that the sun rises in the west there. Was this the same situation on earth in earlier days? Shockingly enough, it was!

When you examine the Old Egyptians’ way of encoding, there is no other possible explanation. During their time, the earth underwent sudden drastic changes. Before the previous pole shift our sun rose in the west! From then on in the east, because the direction of rotation changed! When we apply this principle again, the sun will rise in the west after the forthcoming pole reversal!

As our present science knows, our earth cannot continue its undisturbed rotations indefinitely, and will end its task as a chronometer; it first undergoes a deceleration and then an acceleration in the opposite direction. The physical consequences of an abrupt deceleration are phenomenal: continuous earthquakes, cyclones, colossal tidal waves, scalding hot lava streams, et cetera., will wipe away the existing civilization of that time.

Of course it doesn’t stop there. Not only a deceleration takes place, but also a reversal. Instead of turning from west to east, it will start to turn from east to west. It cannot be more frightening, because it will bring along a destruction of immense proportions. Everything that took place beforehand will now happen again.

The magical Papyrus Harris speaks of a colossal catastrophe of fire and water when "the North becomes the South." Plato wrote about this in Politicus: "In certain periods, the universe has its present rotating movement and in other periods it turns in the opposite direction… Of all the changes that take place in the sky, this reversal is the biggest and the most complete."

Read again these words, remember them forever and pass them on to your children. Only in this way will this terrible truth remain in existence. It is the only way to preserve the next civilization from total destruction. Because, without this knowledge, within twelve thousand years it will be thrown back into the Stone Age, just like ours will be very soon now.

Scientific Proof for a Reversal
The proof of previous events is found in the earth layers, the rocky crust of our planet. The lithosphere consists of igneous rocks like granite and basalt, topped by sedimentary rocks. The latter are formed on the igneous rocks, which form the original earth crust. One can regularly find places where the igneous rocks cover sedimentary rocks over large areas. Cuvier (1769-1832), the founder of the science of rib-skeletons was deeply impressed by the image they showed of successive earth layers.

He was convinced that the bottom of the sea had repeatedly changed into mainland and vice versa. From his studies he concluded that huge disasters had destroyed life in extensive areas. In Essay on the Theory of Earth he writes: "When the traveler moves through these fertile plains he will not have the slightest notion that nature has also had its inner wars, and that revolutions and catastrophes have tormented the terrestrial surface. But he will change his opinion when he starts digging in the ground that now looks so peaceful."

What he saw were the destructions caused by countless polar reversals. Doesn’t a sudden deceleration and acceleration of the earth mean a complete destruction of civilizations? The end of billions of animal lives? The Orphic Hymns remind this only too well: "When the arch of heaven, the mighty Olympus, tremendously trembled … and the earth was screaming terribly, the sea fumingly rose, tempestuous of purple waves."

For the survivors of the forthcoming catastrophe, the result of the next pole reversal will be more than overwhelming, as if a gigantic cosmic catastrophe could make the universe rotate in the opposite direction. The inhabitants of the earth will experience this in the same way, because all the stars and planets will now rise on a different horizon. Our sun too, the closest star, will experience this almost unbelievable situation: it will now rise in the west and set in the east, and oceans will also rise. Those are the results of a magnetic field out of control.

Mountain-High Waves
The Choctaws from Oklahoma tell the following about this: "In the north appeared mountain-high waves, quickly coming closer." The Indians of Oregon tell the following story about Mount Jefferson, three kilometers high: "A huge flood inundated the land. Then the water drew back. A second time a flood inundated the land and drew back. Afraid of a next and even bigger flood, they cut the biggest cedar tree they could find and made the biggest canoe they had ever seen. When the flood came for the third time, they chose the strongest and cleverest man and woman and placed them in the canoe, together with enough food for many days. Then a bigger and deeper flood engulfed all the land and all the people."

A long time ago our ancestors gained scientific insight into the catastrophes that took place with a reversing magnetic field. To top that, they knew how to calculate this beforehand… We would now be building survival arks if wars hadn’t caused the loss of this knowledge. But it turned out to be different. All knowledge about the cataclysm that awaits us has been dissolved in the mist of times.

And when the earth reverses its direction of movement, the seas will again gather into immeasurable tides…and planetary lightning will electrocute huge parts of the earth. Without notice the astonished spectators will start fighting a battle they will lose against this planetary violence of nature adrift, and almost all will perish in a horrible way…
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lolwatever
02-11-2006, 11:17 PM
may i ask where u got the article from?
thanks in advance.
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Snowflake
02-12-2006, 12:17 AM
Sure. Here is the link: http://survive2012.com/geryl2.php
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abdul Majid
02-12-2006, 04:32 AM
you kno i heard that that was meant in a different way...not literaly,
risng from the west ,like justice and rightousness in the west...
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sargon
02-13-2006, 07:18 AM
One thing that was interesting about Islam to me before I became Muslim was the similarities with Mayan prophecies.

Remember God sent prophets (peace be upon them) to many nations/peoples, the Mayans most likely had one as well.
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jameelash
03-03-2006, 03:26 AM
Sun Will Rise From The West One Day..!!!

(Scientific Proof)


As the strong belief of we muslims is that when the sun will rise from west rather than east, that time will be the biggest identity of The Day Of Judgement (Qayamah). And the door of Forgiveness will be closed on that day.

The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been decreasing in its course towards the eastern direction in the few past weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east and the west..and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped going toward the eastern direction..!!!

Then in the months of August and September...Mars changed its course in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of September..which means the sun wi! ll rise now from the west on Mars!!

And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called "Retrograde Motion" Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them.

Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun will rise from the west!!
This might occur soon and we are unaware when it'll happen.

Our beloved messenger Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam said: "One of the signs of the hour..the sun will rise from the west, where no longer tauba (forgiveness) will be granted" !!

And the strange thing..most of our Shariah scholars mentioned that the rise of the sun from the west occurs only once..on that day..the sun will rise from the west..then again from the east..and continues until Allah wishes..and this is similar to what is happening to Mars..it stops, then it changes its course of direction for a short period of time..then returns to way once it was.

Abu Hurayra(R.A.) narrated..that the Messenger of Allah Subahna'uwaTa'ala said :" The day of the hour will not come until the sun rises from the west, if it rises and the people saw it they will all believe, when a time where nothing will be accepted anymore of believe the truth" [Abu Bukhari,Muslim]

From Abu Hurayra (R.A.) that the Hazrat Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasllam said: "Start with the six actions (he mentioned) the sun rising from the west[Muslim] And Abdullah Bin Amro (R.A.) said: "I memorized from the Messenger Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam a hadith I will never forget..I heard the messenger of Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala say: The first aya to come the rise of the sun from the west[Ahmad] And the Messenger Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam said: "Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala places His hand at night to forgive his morning
sinners, and places in the morning to forgive his night sinners until the sun rises from the west" [Muslim]

This piece of news is very important as it brings with it a great sign of warning and remembrance of the coming of a new WORLD - the world of the Hereafter And it is also good material for calling others to ALLAH Subhana'uwaTa'ala.

Whether for muslims, the unwary of us or the kufar. When we show this hadith that was told 1400 years ago about this miracle you will see !!!!

InshaALLAH, a lot will enter this beautiful religion...And the muslims if they see this phenomena happening in Mars..who knows maybe it would bring them closer to our CREATOR.

May Allah Subhanau WaTa'ala keep all of us in the Right path and provide us with success in this world as well as in the hereafter.

I think I dont have to say that "Please Pass It On".... U'll do it yourself InshaAllah.
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cihad
03-03-2006, 02:36 PM
i heard of this bfore and i was like wooow!!
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DaNgErOuS MiNdS
03-03-2006, 02:39 PM
This has been posted before, where did you get this information from?
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Ibrar
03-03-2006, 02:42 PM
It's all True!!!!
and I believe that day is not too far away!!!!
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jameelash
03-03-2006, 03:59 PM
salam-sorry if this had been posted before.since i am new i not aware of this.this was sent to my email:okay:
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cable
03-05-2006, 10:36 PM
:sl:
this has made me very scared of what will happen and insha'allah it will make me become a better muslim. :thankyou: , as this has really made me think twice before doing anything which may be wrong. masha'allah.
:w:
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azim
03-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Is this just one of those emails or does it actually have a scientific basis? If anyone has any info please post :D.
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Ansar Al-'Adl
03-05-2006, 11:18 PM
:sl:

(3) threads merged and moved.

format_quote Originally Posted by azim
Is this just one of those emails or does it actually have a scientific basis? If anyone has any info please post :D.
The former. As br. Kadafi said 1 year and 2 months ago:
format_quote Originally Posted by kadafi
:sl:

Unfortunaley, this is a just a old rumour -- a inaccurate rumour.

The phenomenon affects the planet's revolution, not the rotation.
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FatimaAsSideqah
03-05-2006, 11:46 PM
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Rising of the Sun from the West

The rising of the sun from the west is also a major sign of Qiyamah proven by the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Allah says in the Qur'an, "The day when some signs of your Lord will come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good (by performing deeds of righteousness) through his faith." (Surah Al-An'aam)

The verse is referring to the rising of the sun from the west, as is the opinion of the majority of the commentators. (Tabari/Ibne Kathir)

Imam Tabari, after mentioning the different opinions of the commentators writes, "The most correct opinion in regards to the meaning of this verse is that what is apparent from the reports narrated from the Prophet that he said, "(lmaan will be of no benefit) when the sun rises from the west." (Tabari)

Abu Huraira reported that the Holy Prophet said, "Hasten to do good deeds before six (things happen) :Rising of the sun from the west." (Mishkat)

Where the Sun goes

It is narrated on the authority of Abu Zar that the Messenger of Allah one day said, "Do you know where the Sun goes?" They replied, "Allah and his apostle know best." He (The Holy Prophet ) observed, "Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is told, 'Rise up and go to the place whence you came' and it goes back."
Then it continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the throne where it falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is told, 'Rise up and return to the place whence you came.' And it returns and emerges out of it's rising place and then it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything (unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the throne. Then it would be said to it, 'Rise up and emerge from the place of your setting,' and it will rise from the place of its setting." The Messenger of Allah said "Do you know when it will happen? It will happen at the time when faith will not benefit anyone who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith." (Muslim)

Worshippers during the night will remain till the sun rises from the West
Abdullah-b-Abu-Owfa reported that I heard the Messenger of Allah say, "Verily a night will come upon the people which is equivalent of three of your nights. When it comes those that engage themselves in worship during the night will recognise it. One of them will stand in prayer, read his Hizb (The normal amount he has made the habit of reading) and then go to sleep. Thereafter he will wake up (for the second time) read his Hizb in prayer and go to sleep. While this is the situation the people will begin to shout, scream and call one another. They will say, "What's this?" With fear they will run to the mosque. To their surprise they will see that the sun has risen from the west. When it reaches the middle of the sky it will return and set in the west." He said , "That is when Imaan will not benefit anyone (who brings faith after seeing the sign)." (An-Nihaya)

Everyone will bring faith in seeing the sign

Narrated by Abu Huraira (R.A), "Allah's Messenger said, 'The hour will not come until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the Earth will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before." (Bukhari)

The real basis of faith is that man believes in the unseen realities on the authority of the Messenger of Allah . But when Allah manifests such startling and visible signs which herald the approach of the last hour and by which the veil of the unseen is rent asunder, then the belief becomes meaningless. The rising of the sun from the west will be of great disturbance to nature and will shake the mind of every man and awaken him to see for himself the great power of Allah. At this time the belief of the unseen will lose its importance.
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Door of Repentance Closed

Once the sun has risen from the west the door of repentance will be closed and will remain closed until the Day of Judgement. If any infidel embraces Islam or any Muslim repents and seeks forgiveness for his sins any time after the rising of the sun from the west till the Day of Judgement, it will not be accepted.

The Messenger of Allah said, "Verily Allah extends his hand at night so that the sinners of the day may repent and verily extends his hand during the day so that the sinners of the night may repent. (He will keep on doing this) as long as the sun does not rise from the west." (Abu-Musa al-Ashari/ Muslim)

The Prophet said, "Allah has built a door of repentance in the west the breadth of which is seventy years and it will not close as long as the sun does not rise from the west." (Safwan-b-Assal / Tirmidhi)

The above Ahadith have clearly specified that the extreme limit of the acceptance of repentance is till the sun rises from the west. Once it has risen it will not be accepted.

Ibne Hajar has mentioned many Ahadith which prove that the door of repentance will remain closed till the Day of Judgement and thereafter writes, ''These narration's give strength to one another, agreeing completely in that when the sun rises from the west the door of repentance will be closed and will not be opened thereafter. And this is not specific with that day but will prolong till the Day of Judgement.'' (Fathul- Bari)

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mathematicci
03-05-2006, 11:48 PM
Heey people, this forum was builted in 2005 and that news is widen in 2004For this reason dont worry about the death of wolrd and universe.There is approximatelly 150-200 years to it.However there is a more recent reality than the death of world, that is our own death.It is nearer that other.We exert to bring more good deed to other side of tomb door...
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azim
03-06-2006, 12:12 AM
For an ummah that has the truth, we're really gullible. Insha'Allah we all check our facts in the future.
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lolwatever
04-21-2006, 10:28 AM
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/allabout/ni...ightsky04.html

but it says it only happens to planets that are further outside... are you sure it includes planet earth?

oh hangon i just came across this: http://starryskies.com/The_sky/event...osition05.html it says
"All of the outer planets display retrograde motion at one time or another, but Mars has the best show. Mars is closer and so it is easier to detect it's changing motion against the background stars more easily than with a more distant planet. "

what do they mean by 'outer planets'.. outer with respect to what?

sorry if my understanding isn't quite right, but doesnt retro motion occur due to one body revolving along an orbit?? the sun is in the center, it doesnt quite move along an orbit as do Earth and mars, so how will the sun exhibit retro motion with respect to earth?
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Abdullah
04-22-2006, 08:51 PM
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I remeber reading a similiar article on NASA, and i was wondering can you please provide a source of the article?? just so people know we arent making it up
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Zulkiflim
04-24-2006, 06:20 AM
Salaam,

Everything is in orbit or in rference to another

The moon to the earth.....the earth to the sun..

The sun to another bigger sun?

We do not know the full circle...but we do know one change can have affect on another

An example is how the earth magnetic poles are changing..
What is the affect to earth,,according some ..catastrophic....

But what is the affect to the earth in reference to the sun?

Who knows...may be the earth itself will go in the opposite way...or maybe the sun own magnetic field will chage and it will casue the whole reference point to be warped..changed direction..

No one know..

As the Sunnah/Hadith say..When an angel asked Prophet Muhammad saw...When is Qiyamat...Propeht Muhammad saw said,The questiner and the questioned both have no such knowledge..

It is in Allah hands alone...

For more Qiyamat prophecies vist here

http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/
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extinction
04-24-2006, 06:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by kadafi
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Unfortunaley, this is a just a old rumour -- a inaccurate rumour.

The phenomenon affects the planet's revolution, not the rotation.
Oh so the sun hasnt actually come up from the west on Mars? I always believed this...
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Muezzin
04-24-2006, 07:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
You would need to consider!

Even if the planet (Mars) really was moving backward, and even if the earth began to move in the opposite direction in its orbit around the sun, it would not affect the sun rise being from the east. That is affected by the rotation of the earth on it axis. Your e-mail does not address that.
I thought we'd all go back in time if the Earth reversed the rotation of its axis. The Superman movie lied to me! :p
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cleo
04-25-2006, 01:32 AM
Have faith...pray....and hope it isn't a trick from the cabal, they have the technology now to proform miracles, and bring in the anti-christ. It is true..
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