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DaSangarTalib
03-19-2006, 03:41 PM
Plagued by Iraq, the President's own party is abandoning him as his poll ratings plunge. Paul Harris reports from New York

Sunday March 19, 2006
The Observer



When president George W Bush launched a high-profile series of speeches last week aimed at calming nerves about the Iraq war he chose to do so in the heart of Washington DC. At George Washington University, he asked America to stay the course through troubled times. It was a familiar message to an audience that had heard it all before.
What was new was the make-up of the crowd: only five Republican congressmen and one senator attended. As displays of loyalty go it left a lot to be desired. It seems Bush should worry less about the US abandoning Iraq and more about his party abandoning him.

Tarnished by the war and a never-ending flow of domestic scandals, Bush is increasingly being seen as a liability to Republicans facing November's mid-term elections. Many of the party's senior members are distancing themselves from their President with a new willingness to disobey orders from the White House.

The reason for the change is simple: disastrous polls. Four published last week put Bush's approval ratings at historically low levels. Gallup and NBC gave him 36 per cent, while CBS had him at 34 per cent and Pew on an anaemic 33 per cent. 'When the President is above 50 per cent then party unity follows. When you sink into the thirties it is every man and woman for themselves,' said Larry Haas, a political commentator and former staffer in the Bill Clinton White House.

While Bush will never fight another election, that is not true for many members of his party running in the congressional ballots. The Republicans now control both Houses of Congress, but fear that Bush's sinking popularity could drag them down too. Most worrying for them was a poll of independent voters - the political middle ground - that showed Bush's approval rating at 23 per cent, down from 54 per cent when he first took office.

'The Republicans could be in real trouble if this election becomes a national vote about Bush,' said Haas.

No wonder Republican complaints are starting to emerge from behind closed doors. Many senior party members blame Bush's horrific second term on his senior staff and say a shake-up is needed. Republican Senator Norm Coleman has called for precisely that. 'I have some concerns about the team that's around the President...We're not operating at the highest level of political sensitivity.'

A year ago, fresh from the election victory of November 2004, such talk would have been brutally put down by Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove. Now it is becoming common on a number of issues. Even Bush's fresh push on the war has met internal criticism, as Republican presidential hopefuls look at polls showing 80 per cent of Americans believe Iraq is sliding into civil war and 52 per cent think troops should pull out.

'We're in a lot of trouble in Iraq. The American people know it and we need to face up to it and talk about how we get out of it,' said Senator Chuck Hagel, a possible Republican candidate for 2008.

The Republican abandonment of him has added to the woes of a presidential lame duck unable to pass fresh legislation. Several of his main aims for his second term, such as tax cuts, have been derailed. His future plans look equally hopeless. One was a guest worker programme for the millions of illegal immigrants who keep America's service industries going. But it stands little chance of success as Republican mid-term election candidates have found anti-immigration measures going down better with the electorate. Congress passed a bill mandating the building of a 12ft wall along the Mexican border. No mention was made of a guest worker scheme. 'The desire is to make sure the borders are secure first,' said Republican Senator Arlen Specter.

It has been the same on other issues. Bush has come under fire for supporting the now-scuppered ports deal with a firm from the United Arab Emirates, for being too soft on China economically and for not doing enough to protect jobs. And Republican fiscal conservatives have been appalled at the spiralling spending that has created record deficits.

All this has ensured there is no 'Bush candidate' emerging in the next race for the White House. The obvious heirs, Vice President **** Cheney and Florida governor Jeb Bush, the President's brother, have ruled themselves out. Every other main candidate, from Senator John McCain to right-wing Senator George Allen, is running as a critic of much of that legacy.

The only bright spot in Bush's fortunes has been the continued infighting in the Democratic party, which is still failing to present a unified front to the American people. Last week Democrat Senator Russ Feingold moved a motion to 'censure' Bush over a secret service wire-tapping scandal. He wanted to raise the possibility of impeachment and the spectre of a Watergate-style investigation.

But instead of gaining Democrat support, figures such as John Kerry and Hillary Clinton refused to say if they backed the move. Feingold lambasted his party for 'cowering', as Republicans were provoked into a rare moment of unified support for Bush.

But it did not last. Bush's misfortunes had returned by the end of last week in the sort of spectacular snub late-night comics dream of. The villain was not a rogue Republican but Jessica Simpson, a reality TV star. She declined to appear next to the President at a charity event for fear of 'politicising' the cause of the disabled. It dismayed Republicans.

'It's never been a problem for Bono,' said Republican spokesman Carl Forti. But the message was clear: when even Jessica Simpson does not want to be seen with you, you know you are in trouble.
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afriend
03-19-2006, 03:43 PM
And soon the Bush Admin will collapse just like rOMANS, pERSIANS AND THE EX SUPER POWERS, rUSSIA.
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DaSangarTalib
03-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Insha'Allah
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afriend
03-19-2006, 03:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
Insha'Allah
Inshallah....

Then the rise of Islam.

Ameen.
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HeiGou
03-19-2006, 03:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Iqram
Then the rise of Islam.
I think the West is a little stronger than to collapse just because the Bush administration is out of power.

Besides you have not even begun to deal with the serious issues you need to fix in the Muslim world before you all cease to be a threat only to each other. For example, co-operation. Muslims in power treat Muslims who are not in power so badly that those Muslims not in power will not even do small things for those in power like stand and fight in the Army. How are you going to get any amount of co-operation out of your fellow Muslims?

On top of which the Americans have some level of support in every country in the world. Even, as I have said many times, much to my surprise, Afghanistan. I doubt that the majority of British Muslims would support an Islamic Britain much less any number of non-Muslims.

Think about these issues because they are real issues. It is not enough to command. It is not enough to order. You have to make your dream shared by billions. And the Americans have. You have not.
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afriend
03-19-2006, 03:59 PM
It's doesn't matter what u think, but the final day lies ever close now.....

And if u believe in Dajjal (the antichrist), then u shud be scared, as calamities will be on the increase!

Nobody is immortal.
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Ghazi
03-19-2006, 05:38 PM
Salaam

May allah distory the Russians, damn I hope I get an oppertunity to get to chechnya, off topic I know, Lets remember chechnya in our duas.
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Knut Hamsun
03-19-2006, 07:41 PM
Hei Gou
Think about these issues because they are real issues. It is not enough to command. It is not enough to order. You have to make your dream shared by billions. And the Americans have. You have not.
VS...

Iqram
It's doesn't matter what u think, but the final day lies ever close now.....
And if u believe in Dajjal (the antichrist), then u shud be scared, as calamities will be on the increase!


The incongruity of reason vs. ignorance could not be anymore clearly illustrated than it is here. Iqram, are you actually serious? Wow. I am speechless.

damn I hope I get an oppertunity to get to chechnya
Yeah, bro, getting blown to bits sounds like something I want to do also. See you there!
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afriend
03-19-2006, 07:43 PM
The incongruity of reason vs. ignorance could not be anymore clearly illustrated than it is here. Iqram, are you actually serious? Wow. I am speechless.
Meaning?

Im not som1 who likes any weird stuff.

Get to the point!

I wasn't in the mood to debate, but now i am...Come on then!

OPEN FIRE!
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Knut Hamsun
03-19-2006, 07:46 PM
Meaning?


My "meaning" could not be any more clear!!! Read it again.
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afriend
03-19-2006, 07:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Knut Hamsun

My "meaning" could not be any more clear!!! Read it again.
I don't get it.....

We're not doing Shakespeare here.....

plain english please.
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Ghazi
03-19-2006, 09:07 PM
Salaam

Kurt he was just expressing our belief, either respect that or don't post.
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dany
03-30-2006, 06:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam

May allah distory the Russians, damn I hope I get an oppertunity to get to chechnya, off topic I know, Lets remember chechnya in our duas.
The russians are decendants of Yajuj & Majuj aka caucasians. If they revert to Islam, alhamdulillah they become followers of Prophet s.a.w but if the dont, Allah will destroy them when Prophet Isa a.s and muslims prayed to Allah when they are surrounded by Yajuj & Majuj after Dajjal, their leader killed by Prophet Isa a.s.

It will happen.


Wassalam :brother:
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Nicola
03-30-2006, 08:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Iqram
Inshallah....

Then the rise of Islam.

Ameen.
The battle was never really about America and your right Islam is going to rise.
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Nicola
03-30-2006, 08:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by dany
The russians are decendants of Yajuj & Majuj aka caucasians. If they revert to Islam, alhamdulillah they become followers of Prophet s.a.w but if the dont, Allah will destroy them when Prophet Isa a.s and muslims prayed to Allah when they are surrounded by Yajuj & Majuj after Dajjal, their leader killed by Prophet Isa a.s.

It will happen.


Wassalam :brother:
Russia is going to join you in the final battle...but they aren't going to revert to Islam.
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Ghazi
03-30-2006, 09:01 PM
Salaam

Yeah, bro, getting blown to bits sounds like something I want to do also. See you there!
See theres a diffrence between me and you I'm not scared of death even if I were to be killed I Wouldn't feel any pain.
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DaSangarTalib
03-30-2006, 09:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam

See theres a diffrence between me and you I'm not scared of death even if I were to be killed I Wouldn't feel any pain.
....unlike them :)
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Ghazi
03-30-2006, 09:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
....unlike them :)
Salaam

So True
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DaSangarTalib
03-30-2006, 09:05 PM
one of the beautiful rewards of martyrs:

The Shaheed does not feel the pain of death:

"The Shaheed does not feel [any pain] from killing, except as one of you feels the prick of a needle"

[Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi and an-Nasaa`I and the Sanad is Hasan]
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Ghazi
03-30-2006, 09:08 PM
Salaam

Allahu Akbar
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DaSangarTalib
03-30-2006, 09:12 PM
ALLAHU AKBAR!!

The Martyrs of Afghanistan

Umar Hanif, who was my commander in the Zarmah district, has narrated to me in the house of Nasrullah Mansoor [the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Front] that:

1) I have never seen a single Shaheed whose body has changed or gave off a bad odour.

2) I have never seen dogs touching a single Shaheed even though they devoured the bodies of the communists.

3) I myself opened 12 graves [of the Shuhadaa], three or four years after their burial, and I did not find one whose odour had changed.

4) I have seen many a Shaheed more than a year after their burial. Their wounds were fresh, the blood still flowing.

An Imaam narrated to me:

I saw Shaheed Abdul Majeed Muhammad three months after his Shahaadat. he was just as he had been [i.e. unchanged]; and his body exuded the fragrance of musk.
>> http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...tml#post204522
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ummAbdillah
03-30-2006, 09:32 PM
:sl:
manshallah
:)
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FatimaAsSideqah
03-30-2006, 09:45 PM
Mashallah! I ain't scared of death...only FEAR for Allah!

Allahu Akbar!
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dany
03-31-2006, 10:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nicola
Russia is going to join you in the final battle...but they aren't going to revert to Islam.
I belived that you understand that in the bible, Ezekiel 38:1-4 & 39:1-2.
I've read that. For your information, that verse actually refers to the Zionists who illegally occupy Palestinean land. How come ?

Firstly, most of them are not of jewish origin, they are the Khazarias, the so called 13th tribe. They are decendants of Gog & Magog which the bible actually refers to.

Secondly, Israel is govern mostly by 'european' jew. The actual bani Israil is not many. Since they have already mix marriage, so it's very difficult to differenciate between them. Please go to www.khazaria.com for more info.
( not all jews are zionist, in fact there really are good ones among them )

Lastly, the final battle you refer to will happen in the near future at Mount Mageddo in Palestine/Israel. ARMAGEDDON it is called, 'Ar' means hill & 'Mageddo' the name of the hill.

Allah Almighty has promised that Muslims will win this war, so be patient, the time will definitely come
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KAding
03-31-2006, 11:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Iqram
And soon the Bush Admin will collapse just like rOMANS, pERSIANS AND THE EX SUPER POWERS, rUSSIA.
He won't be able to rerun for election anyway. So this is unsuprising. I do not believe Bush will be gone before 2009.
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HeiGou
03-31-2006, 11:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
See theres a diffrence between me and you I'm not scared of death even if I were to be killed I Wouldn't feel any pain.
And yet, oddly, the rewards in this world go to those who offer more to people than just being unafraid of death. It is the people who do not embrace death as a way of life who cured small-pox and invented penicillin and wrote Aida and have created vibrant, prosperous democracies. I do not say this to rub your nose in the poverty and backwardness of the Muslim world, but to ask you to reflect on what it is that brings people together to co-operate and creates a properous and happy planet.
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KAding
03-31-2006, 11:45 AM
Wow, this is a fascinating thread..... Maybe I should start advocating a rise in military spending after all...
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KAding
03-31-2006, 12:05 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Iqram
Inshallah....

Then the rise of Islam.

Ameen.
Could you perhaps elaborate this a bit? So the Bush admin falls? Then what? How does Islam rise exactly?

Thank you.
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 12:08 PM
Why do u wanna know, all will happen in due time and when it does all of you ppl will know about it we dont have to explain anything to you. so keep on asking what u want it wont get answered lol
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KAding
03-31-2006, 12:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
Why do u wanna know, all will happen in due time and when it does all of you ppl will know about it we dont have to explain anything to you. so keep on asking what u want it wont get answered lol
Right, so you don't have an answer :okay:. Thats comforting ;).
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IbnAbdulHakim
03-31-2006, 12:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam

See theres a diffrence between me and you I'm not scared of death even if I were to be killed I Wouldn't feel any pain.
Allahu akbar!!!!

no mu'min is ever scared of death, i wud gladly join u for jihad bro!! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

:sl:

*cant stop thinkin about the sahabah who defended prophet (saws) as he escaped uhud.... 70 wounds he had.... 70..... he carried the prophet saws WITH 70 WOUNDS ON HIM!!!!!!! and he was entitled a living martyr (whats his name i cant remember???)* MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH HIM!!!

i cant wait 4 imam mahdi, wallahi i will join him if i live to see his time inshaAllah and fight besides him wherever he goes :)

:sl:
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IbnAbdulHakim
03-31-2006, 12:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by KAding
Could you perhaps elaborate this a bit? So the Bush admin falls? Then what? How does Islam rise exactly?

Thank you.
lets jus wait for imam mahdi to come first, then you'll find out ;D

PeAcE
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 12:13 PM
no its not that please be assured of that; i rather not explain this to you ppl
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 12:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid
Allahu akbar!!!!

no mu'min is ever scared of death, i wud gladly join u for jihad bro!! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

:sl:

*cant stop thinkin about the sahabah who defended prophet (saws) as he escaped uhud.... 70 wounds he had.... 70..... he carried the prophet saws WITH 70 WOUNDS ON HIM!!!!!!! and he was entitled a living martyr (whats his name i cant remember???)* MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH HIM!!!

i cant wait 4 imam mahdi, wallahi i will join him if i live to see his time inshaAllah and fight besides him wherever he goes :)

:sl:
ALLAHU AKBAR!! oh bro dont get me excited :) We all will join and Fight Insha'Allah against the corrupt leaders and oppressors and so on, they wont be going for long, sooner or later Allah Aza'Wajaal will destroy them
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IbnAbdulHakim
03-31-2006, 01:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
ALLAHU AKBAR!! oh bro dont get me excited :) We all will join and Fight Insha'Allah against the corrupt leaders and oppressors and so on, they wont be going for long, sooner or later Allah Aza'Wajaal will destroy them
what was the name of the sahabah i described bro? the one who carries muhammad (saws) wiv 70 wounds all ova him... was it talhah (ra)?

:sl:
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HeiGou
03-31-2006, 02:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
no its not that please be assured of that; i rather not explain this to you ppl
That makes it sound like the most interesting topic around here. If I asked very nicely would you reconsider?
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 02:25 PM
haha! :rollseyes
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 02:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid
what was the name of the sahabah i described bro? the one who carries muhammad (saws) wiv 70 wounds all ova him... was it talhah (ra)?

:sl:
brother im not sure probably :)
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Bittersteel
03-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Then the rise of Islam.
how?Let me tell you something.There has been a rise of Islamist parties in Iraq due to the invasion.
Its best not to delve into prophecies but try to improve ourselves.
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 02:43 PM
brother; iqram is not delving into prophecies he's just stating something that will happen no matter what and nothing can stop that
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Nicola
03-31-2006, 05:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah
brother; iqram is not delving into prophecies he's just stating something that will happen no matter what and nothing can stop that
I agree nothing is going to stop this happening.
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DaSangarTalib
03-31-2006, 05:04 PM
thankz for being resonable nicola
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