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sonz
03-20-2006, 11:34 PM
Is Another 9/11 in the Works?
by Paul Craig Roberts


If you were President George W. Bush with all available US troops tied down by the Iraqi resistance, and you were unable to control Iraq or political developments in the country, would you also start a war with Iran?
Yes, you would.

Bush’s determination to spread Middle East conflict by striking at Iran does not make sense.

First of all, Bush lacks the troops to do the job. If the US military cannot successfully occupy Iraq, there is no way that the US can occupy Iran, a country approximately three times the size in area and population.
Second, Iran can respond to a conventional air attack with missiles targeted on American ships and bases, and on oil facilities located throughout the Middle East.

Third, Iran has human assets, including the Shi'ite majority population in Iraq, that it can activate to cause chaos throughout the Middle East.
Fourth, polls of US troops in Iraq indicate that a vast majority do not believe in their mission and wish to be withdrawn. Unlike the yellow ribbon folks at home, the troops are unlikely to be enthusiastic about being trapped in an Iranian quagmire in addition to the Iraqi quagmire.

Fifth, Bush’s polls are down to 34 percent, with a majority of Americans believing that Bush’s invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
If you were being whipped in one fight, would you start a second fight with a bigger and stronger person?
That’s what Bush is doing.

Opinion polls indicate that the Bush regime has succeeded in its plan to make Americans fear Iran as the greatest threat America faces.
The Bush regime has created a major dispute with Iran over that country’s nuclear energy program and then blocked every effort to bring the dispute to a peaceful end.

In order to gain a pretext for attacking Iran, the Bush regime is using bribery and coercion in its effort to have Iran referred to the UN Security Council for sanctions.
In recent statements President Bush and Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld blamed Iran for the Iraqi resistance, claiming that the roadside bombs used by the resistance are being supplied by Iran.

It is obvious that Bush intends to attack Iran and that he will use every means to bring war about.
Yet, Bush has no conventional means of waging war with Iran. His bloodthirsty neoconservatives have prepared plans for nuking Iran. However, an unprovoked nuclear attack on Iran would leave the US, already regarded as a pariah nation, totally isolated.

Readers, whose thinking runs ahead of that of most of us, tell me that another 9/11 event will prepare the ground for a nuclear attack on Iran. Some readers say that Bush, or Israel as in Israel’s highly provocative attack on the Jericho jail and kidnapping of prisoners with American complicity, will provoke a second attack on the US. Others say that Bush or the neoconservatives working with some "black ops" group will orchestrate the attack.

One of the more extraordinary suggestions is that a low yield, perhaps tactical, nuclear weapon will be exploded some distance out from a US port. Death and destruction will be minimized, but fear and hysteria will be maximized. Americans will be told that the ship bearing the weapon was discovered and intercepted just in time, thanks to Bush’s illegal spying program, and that Iran is to blame. A more powerful wave of fear and outrage will again bind the American people to Bush, and the US media will not report the rest of the world’s doubts of the explanation.

Reads like a Michael Crichton plot, doesn’t it?
Fantasy? Let’s hope so.


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renak
03-21-2006, 06:33 AM
It is easy for Georgie Bush to make these mistakes since he has no military experience or knowledge. It sort of reminds me of that other dictator that lacked military knowlege, and led his country into countless wars....wasn't he called Saddam Hussein?
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itsme01
03-21-2006, 06:54 AM
^ ahan - idiots think alike (i.e. bushy and sadman)
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renak
03-21-2006, 07:22 AM
Originally Posted by itsme01
^ ahan - idiots think alike (i.e. bushy and sadman)
I believe they must! I never made the correlation until I read the posted article on this thread. lol:giggling:
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by renak
It is easy for Georgie Bush to make these mistakes since he has no military experience or knowledge. It sort of reminds me of that other dictator that lacked military knowlege, and led his country into countless wars....wasn't he called Saddam Hussein?
George Bush was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam era for the Texas National Guard. He flew one of the hardest planes to fly at the time.
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Cheb
03-21-2006, 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
George Bush was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam era for the Texas National Guard. He flew one of the hardest planes to fly at the time.
Actually that is debatable. Not to mention a large amount of his military history was "missing".
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hamzaa
03-21-2006, 04:06 PM
Peace,

Bush?----- military training?!;D

perish the thought!
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Cheb
Actually that is debatable. Not to mention a large amount of his military history was "missing".
Actually it's not. During the last election he released all documents pertaining to his military career. Why do you think the accusations of him being a deserter went away?
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by hamzaa
Peace,

Bush?----- military training?!;D

perish the thought!
No need to have military training. Abraham Lincoln had no military training and he did fine. So did FDR.
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renak
03-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
Actually it's not. During the last election he released all documents pertaining to his military career. Why do you think the accusations of him being a deserter went away?
I wasn't aware that they went away.
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by renak
I wasn't aware that they went away.
Besides Michael Moore who have you heard say it?
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hamzaa
03-21-2006, 04:30 PM
Peace,

You honestly reckon Bush, would ever support his troops and fight alongside them?
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Cheb
03-21-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
Actually it's not. During the last election he released all documents pertaining to his military career. Why do you think the accusations of him being a deserter went away?
And yo dont think it is suspicious that it took so long to get them out to the public? Why wasnt he able to get the information earlier. I dont buy it.
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renak
03-21-2006, 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
George Bush was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam era for the Texas National Guard. He flew one of the hardest planes to fly at the time.
If what you state is true, I would still focus on the fact that he was flying around in the National Guard, within the USA, during the Vietnam Era. If he were patriotic and brave he would have been in Vietnam.

The mere fact that he was piloting a difficult plane makes him no more impressive than Mohamed Atta.
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renak
03-21-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
No need to have military training. Abraham Lincoln had no military training and he did fine. So did FDR.

I'd have to research FDR. As for the Lincoln doing fine, I would beg to differ. The United States civil war was hardly profitable, resulted in many years of national division and tension, and more or less destroyed the Southern states. Research the US Cival war and you will find that it was not fought to abolish slavery; instead, it was fought for materialistic gains of certain industries in the North. I consider it a complete failure and disgrace.
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czgibson
03-21-2006, 04:42 PM
Greetings,
Originally Posted by knuckles
Actually it's not. During the last election he released all documents pertaining to his military career. Why do you think the accusations of him being a deserter went away?
You don't deny that there are gaps in his military records though, do you? As far as I know, questions are still being asked about that, but officials are under instructions not to answer them.

See here: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040

On the question of Iran, if the neocons (or what's left of them) do decide to cook up some black ops to push for an invasion of Iran, I just hope the people of America aren't stupid enough to buy it. The world is already a much more dangerous place thanks to Bush and his cronies, and the sooner their belligerence is checked, the better.

Peace
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renak
03-21-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
Besides Michael Moore who have you heard say it?
All Vietnam Veterans organizations that I've ever encountered, directly or indirectly.
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by renak
All Vietnam Veterans organizations that I've ever encountered, directly or indirectly.
I don't know about that because I've seen the opposite.
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HeiGou
03-21-2006, 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by knuckles
No need to have military training. Abraham Lincoln had no military training and he did fine. So did FDR.
Lincoln served as a captain in the Black Hawk War though. I don't think Roosevelt had any military experience before being appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy.

Whether either of them did fine or not is another question. I'd say Lincoln did.
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Cheb
03-21-2006, 05:41 PM
But FDR got the US out of the depression. You can say he did fine too. But if you are talking about the military intervention then that is another question.
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knuckles
03-21-2006, 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Cheb
But FDR got the US out of the depression. You can say he did fine too. But if you are talking about the military intervention then that is another question.
No FDR didn't. Actually he prolonged the depression with some of his decisions like price freezes and business protections. WWII got us out of the depression with government spending. Look up Keynsian economics. Militarily though he did fine. He saw the threat of Nazism before everyone else did.
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